-!- Irrsi  Log opened Wed Nov 20 00:00:14 2002
[00:03] < Mike1> n8 all
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[02:57] < Mike1> moin
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[03:33] < SMP> Mike1: man screen
[03:33] < SMP> M)
[03:34] < Mike1> hi SMP
[03:34] < Mike1> SMP: hehe ok
[03:35] < Mike1> SMP: i read that u don't like iptables, what do u use in stead?
[03:36] < SMP> your connection to world must be pretty sluggish?
[03:36] < SMP> I use the OpenBSD Stateful Packet Filter
[03:37] < Mike1> SMP: actually i dont oftenly login to world
[03:37] < Mike1> at least not for using irc only when i an away from my office
[03:38] < Mike1> but i will got for screen ..
[03:39] < Mike1> SMP: i never used OSPF, wanna tell me abit about it?
[03:39] < SMP> er
[03:39] < SMP> hehe
[03:40] < SMP> OSPF is the Open Shortest Path routing protocol ;)
[03:40] < SMP> the OpenBSD packet filter is called 'pf'
[03:40] < SMP> anyway
[03:41] < Mike1> hehe ok still could u tell me about the advantages of pf?
[03:42] < SMP> just a second. need to sort out my thoughts
[03:42] < Mike1> sure ...
[03:44] < SMP> ok, so pf is much less modular than iptables, but it is more tightly integrated. for example you cannot extend it by loading dozens of modules (some of which are pretty much useless in the iptables case).
[03:45] < SMP> it is functionally equivalent to iptables, though
[03:45] < SMP> the main difference from a user's point of view is probably that it is actually maintable, which ipfilter is not
[03:46] < SMP> you write your filtering policy as rules into a file and then load it into the kernel in one step
[03:46] < Mike1> nice ...
[03:47] < SMP> the ruleset language is pretty high-level
[03:47] < Mike1> Do i get stuff like port forwarding and NAT as well?
[03:48] < SMP> pf does NAT, too, yes. this is also integrated with the filtering rules
[03:48] < SMP> also integrated with this is altq, a packet scheduler / queueing mechanism.
[03:49] < SMP> this is something that also exists on Linux, but is not at all integrated with the filtering mechanism
[03:49] < SMP> and even less easy to use
[03:49] < Mike1> guess i will have to give a deeper look into it
[03:50] < SMP> from my point of view, netfilter / iptables stands absolutely no chance
[03:50]   Mike1 wants too improve his skills and knowledge of network / servers security
[03:51] < SMP> the pfctl program no only loads the rules into the kernel, but makes sure that the rules are all of valid syntax
[03:51] < Mike1> as far as now i have been working with netfilter and iptables but i certainly will have a deeper look to pf
[03:53] < Mike1> like pfctl -check file-with-rulez?
[03:53] < SMP> with iptables you'd write a shellscript with a hundred calls to iptables and then execute it. but if there is an error, it will leave you with an incomplete filter in the kernel
[03:54] < Mike1> true
[03:54] < SMP> pfctl always has to parse and validate the rules since otherwise the could not be loaded into the kernel
[03:55] < SMP> so it does that when you try to load the rules - but there's a "check only, don't load" option, too, of course
[03:55] < Mike1> hey thats cool
[03:56] < Mike1> gee i really need to get into this
[03:56] < SMP> OpenBSD is really great for some uses. and it is even easier to install than ROCK ;)
[03:57] < Mike1> nice
[03:57] < Mike1> still i have heard NetBSD is better for firewalls / routers , how true is this?
[03:58] < SMP> hmm well. I don't know NetBSD..
[03:58] < SMP> but OpenBSD stems from NetBSD and they don't differ too much in general
[03:59] < Mike1> yeah
[03:59] < SMP> but the OpenBSD pf has been written from ground up as a replacement for the ipf
[03:59] < SMP> I think NetBSD uses ipf
[03:59] < Mike1> how about hardware compatibility ?
[04:00] < Mike1> no idea i have never used NetBSD
[04:00] < SMP> so ipf does nearly all of what pf can do plus a few other things
[04:00] < Mike1> will OpenBSD run on most PC compatible machines?
[04:01] < SMP> but ipf is really old code and much less clean IMHO
[04:01] < SMP> yes, OpenBSD runs on most PCs I'd say
[04:01] < Mike1> good :)
[04:01] < SMP> it will be more usable especially on low-end hardware compared to Linux
[04:02] < Mike1> mm... i will have to see, but i will trust you on this and give it a try
[04:02] < Mike1> SMP: btw what are u doing awake at 4am?
[04:02] < SMP> there are a few drawbacks on the very high end
[04:03] < SMP> OpenBSD can only run on one processor e.g.
[04:03] < SMP> you can't have 4GB RAM I think
[04:03] < Mike1> grrrr ok it wont run at home ... :( /me has a dual Athlon XP
[04:04] < Mike1> ah well i really don't have control over boxes with that much memory so it wont be a problem, for now
[04:04] < SMP> and although it runs XFree4 I think that it will perform worse for high-end graphics
[04:05] < Mike1> Xfree is not something i really care about
[04:06] < SMP> but then it's a really nice Unix. and Linux stands no chance against it for packet filtering and especiall IPSec
[04:06] < Mike1> IPSec ... :)
[04:07] < SMP> I use it to run three pf boxes with vlans and also two boxes for IPSec VPN
[04:09] < SMP> oh and I'm awake at 4 am because my sleep/wake rhythm is screwed
[04:09] < SMP> I got up at 4pm and I'm in the office since 7pm
[04:09] < Mike1> wow
[04:10] < Mike1> i wake up at 6 - 6:30
[04:10] < SMP> which pretty much pisses me off
[04:10] < Mike1> have to be at the office at 7:30
[04:10] < SMP> you know, we have winter here right now
[04:10] < Mike1> yes i know
[04:11] < SMP> so I can never see the sunlight
[04:11] < Mike1> too much cold for been awake at 4am i can tell
[04:11] < Mike1> SMP: i dont see the sunlight for too much neither
[04:12] < SMP> too few sunlight gets me lazy and depressed
[04:12] < SMP> I felt much better when I regularly got up between 4am and 6am
[04:12] < Mike1> lazyness i can uderstand, depression... mm why
[04:13] < SMP> only sunlight makes the body produce a certain hormone
[04:14] < Mike1> i certainly wish i could have the work scheidule you, i like to work at night better then day i think i am more productive at those times
[04:14] < Mike1> yeah i have heard that but i think i am missing it as well as u are
[04:15] < SMP> that's certainly right - I like working a nights much more and I'm also more creative then
[04:15] < SMP> but I'd really prefer more daylight
[04:17] < SMP> I think I will just work until early evening and then go to bed at a normal time
[04:18] < Mike1> well once u get used to ur current work scheidule, its really hard to get back to the mortals sleep hours
[04:18] < SMP> haha
[04:18] < Mike1> :)
[04:18] < SMP> I can switch that three times a week
[04:19] < SMP> totally fucked up
[04:19] < Mike1> it took me a while to get back, i worked at night for almost 1 year
[04:21] < Mike1> SMP: it really weird to see u around the chann during my time, i guess i will have to keep staying late to keep getting advices from u :)
[04:21] < SMP> if there's something I'm used to then would be constant change..
[04:22] < SMP> well, d'oh, I need to get some work done in between ;)
[04:23] < Mike1> :) of course
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[04:24] < Mike1> what do u think about 1.7 and what the way rock is going to?
[04:24] < d3mian> haea!
[04:24] < Mike1> d3mian: hi
[04:24] < d3mian> tons k
[04:25] < Mike1> d3mian: just exchanging ideas with SMP
[04:26] < SMP> hm, I'm not really up to date with 1.7 in general. I think that 1.7 is becoming the best ROCK Linux
[04:26] < d3mian> i havent taken a look at 1.7 yet, and i wont yet
[04:27] < Mike1> SMP: well that depends on the kind of user that will go for it, i have tryed it sometimes and its still really broken but i guess we will have to wait for stable 2.0 and put it for production enviroments
[04:28] < SMP> yes of course. it is far from being complete
[04:28] < Mike1> d3mian: if u are looking forward to have 1.7 for workstion it wont be worth the time to build it
[04:29] < d3mian> worth ? (translate to spanish)
[04:29] < Mike1> SMP: untill now my personal 1.5 tree does everything i want, thought my 1.2 and 1.4 boxes are still looking good
[04:30] < Mike1> d3mian: que no vale la pena eso quise decir
[04:30] < SMP> 1.2?! holy..
[04:30] < SMP> I've been running 1.3.11s until a few weeks ago and I thought that was ancient ;)
[04:30] < d3mian> why not ?
[04:30] < Mike1> SMP: whats the matter? never seen a proxy running rock 1.2 on a 386?
[04:31] < Mike1> SMP: ah well :) guess u were wrong
[04:31] < Mike1> d3mian: its to broke and unstable
[04:31] < SMP> well yes.. 1.2 must have to ton of bugs
[04:32] < SMP> er. "a ton"
[04:32] < Mike1> d3mian: its only worth the time if u are willing to contribute on getting it to build and become stable sometime
[04:32] < d3mian> it is has solution.. anyways i never hope a perfect system.. i could do therest by myself.. but, anyways, i dunt support some 1.7 things.
[04:32] < Mike1> SMP: ack yeah but i run its running at friends home network for inet connection
[04:32] < SMP> apart from that it has not been maintained for years. so OpenBSD would be the better choice for that 386 machine then ;))
[04:33] < Mike1> d3mian: what kind of things_
[04:33] < d3mian> devfs.conf
[04:33] < d3mian> package management
[04:33] < d3mian> mainly that
[04:33] < Mike1> SMP: yes i will painfully remove 1.2 from it and load OpenBSD sometime this week
[04:33] < Mike1> but i am looking forward to do great things with it and learn lots more
[04:34] < Mike1> hope you don't mind if i ask for your advices sometimes ...
[04:35] < Mike1> d3mian: you can use tar.bz2 pkg still
[04:35] < Mike1> and what is it that u like about Gem Mine?
[04:35] < d3mian> umm
[04:35] < SMP> I don't mind. I might just not be as easy to reach as right now - as we have discussed earlier ;)
[04:36]   Mike1 suddenly remembers SMP and Clifford exchanging ideas for the package manager of 1.7, some months ago
[04:36] < d3mian> well, i meant that extensions conversion to separated files.
[04:36] < SMP> huh
[04:36] < SMP> that has nothing to do with GEM-MINE
[04:36] < Mike1> SMP: well then i will just wake up in the middle of the night to try to reach u *g
[04:37] < Mike1> d3mian: i'm SMP is right that has nothing to do with package management
[04:38] < Mike1> and personally i like it better they way it is now
[04:40] < SMP> the "benefit" of having just one file gets lost as soon as you use a patch in an external file e.g.
[04:40] < d3mian> u missunderstood... what i meant is i dunt like to have separated files for a package .. those .pz , .cache, i think are innecesary, and we have discussed personally about that :)
[04:42] < Mike1> d3mian: ack but as master SMP says once u add a patch in a external file (very common BTW) the "benefit" gets lost
[04:43] < Mike1> still as i said before i see no problem with the "new style"
[04:43] < d3mian> umm.
[04:43] < d3mian> well, u know my opinion
[04:44] < SMP> and since the information in .cache files is autogenerated it would be really messy to patch that into one .ext or .whatever file
[04:45] < Mike1> d3mian: d3mian you are just  lazy ass that wants it all in a single file :P
[04:46] < d3mian> no. i want .desc external (those files are never touched, or patched or whatever)
[04:46] < d3mian> as we discussed some time ago
[04:47] < d3mian> when u left us
[04:47] < d3mian> :p
[04:47] < SMP> so.. what is "Tecnica Administrativa" then? ;)
[04:48] < d3mian> q Mike1
[04:48] < Mike1> SMP: its a a place a friend works at
[04:48] < Mike1> SMP: i am currently installing a new linux server for them
[04:48] < Mike1> SMP: ROCK Linux server
[04:48] < Mike1> they currently run a lame and insecure slackware box
[04:50] < d3mian> slackware is not so bad..
[04:50] < d3mian> slackware fits as a user-admin distro
[04:50] < d3mian> imho
[04:51] < d3mian> is it cool for a Uni, for example, my case
[04:51] < Mike1> d3mian: ROCK and OpenBSD thats what makes universe move around
[04:52] < d3mian> the potyential of rock, is buildinf, imho, if u want a cool server or whatever, a distro wont avoid it, if u know what u do
[04:53] < Mike1> d3mian: i just to care about every detail of what i have on my system
[04:53] < d3mian> k
[04:53] < d3mian> i have to leave now..
[04:53] < d3mian> cya
[04:53] < Mike1> but Slackware and d3bian are good choices for mortals
[04:53] < Mike1> ok cu d3mian
[04:53] < SMP> ehehe
[04:53] < Mike1> :)
[04:53] < d3mian> umm..
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[04:54] < Mike1> SMP: i knew u would laught
[04:54] < SMP> oh how embarrassing
[04:54] < Mike1> SMP: what?
[04:54] < SMP> I thought you were on the southern hemisphere
[04:55] < SMP> but then I realized that you're on CR and CR might not be :)
[04:55] < Mike1> SMP: huh? no what made u think that?
[04:55] < SMP> I guess I was confusing you with some guy from South America
[04:55] < Mike1> CR is part of central not South America
[04:56] < SMP> yes I know. I just looked it up in a map  ;)
[04:56] < Mike1> SMP: well yes the community is growing in central south and north america
[04:57] < Mike1> mm... so u are tracking my current location ...
[04:57] < Mike1> Maps . Tecnica ...
[04:57] < SMP> that's cool.. I might move to the Carribean sooner than later :)
[04:58] < Mike1> SMP: come over to CR :)
[04:59] < Mike1> its a really nice place and yes it has a lot of sunlight for u
[04:59] < SMP> heh :>
[05:10] < Mike1> yawn
[05:12] < Mike1> well SMP i will go now, need some food and sleep
[05:13] < Mike1> sleep well, cu later
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[07:38] < SMP> "early to bed and early to rise makes a (wo)man tired and grumpy"
[07:46] < Lorini> hm.. i didnt hear that
[07:47] < Lorini> and i have to go now, byebye
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[07:56] < blindcoder> /away
[07:56] < blindcoder> morning
[08:01] < Eisofen> moin
[08:03] < blindcoder> moin Eisi
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[09:04] < blindcoder> mein Freak
[09:04] < blindcoder> hmm... okay... I'll hack together a licq-package today...
[09:04] < blindcoder> moin Freak
[09:04] < blindcoder> that way :)
[09:05] < Freak> (=
[09:06] < Freak> hi anyways blindcoder ;)
[09:10] < blindcoder> when will they ever learn...
[09:10] < blindcoder> URIs are 7-Bit encoded!! no goshdarned ; : ( ) or other language specific fuckups!
[09:10] < blindcoder> *ARGH*
[09:11] < blindcoder> and who has to tell them... me of course... *grrr*
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[09:18] < owl> moin, moin
[09:20] < blindcoder> moin owl
[09:22] < owl> hi blindcoder
[09:25] < aszlig> moin
[09:25] < aszlig> X-|
[09:25] < owl> hi aszlig
[09:26] < aszlig> *yawn*
[09:26] < aszlig> someone at bitz today?
[09:26] < fake> morgen
[09:26] < blindcoder> moin aszlig
[09:27] < blindcoder> hom's your donkey?
[09:27] < aszlig> blindcoder: killed it
[09:27] < blindcoder> why?
[09:27] < blindcoder> mine is just fine...
[09:27] < aszlig> blindcoder: because of the security risks
[09:28] < aszlig> blindcoder: and because im not a leecher
[09:28] < blindcoder> *lol*
[09:28] < aszlig> blindcoder: except i just _need_ something
[09:28] < aszlig> and i got that..
[09:29] < blindcoder> okay, i see :)
[09:29] < blindcoder> well... I almost _always_ need&H&H&H&Hwant something :)
[09:29] < blindcoder> s/&/^/g
[09:29] < aszlig> ^H *gg*
[09:30] < blindcoder> lixe the two Slayers Sound Bibles :)
[09:30] < aszlig> harm?
[09:30] < owl> haeh? what bibles?
[09:30] < blindcoder> The two Sound Bibles (OSTs) of Slayers
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[09:31] < aszlig> do you mean "slayers" the band? or just slayers?
[09:31] < blindcoder> Slayers Next - The Anime
[09:32] < owl> hi grunz... (pig???) aeh isofenE
[09:32] < aszlig> blindcoder: oh.. dunno
[09:32] < owl> *g* anime... once again... ;P
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[09:32] < blindcoder> well, I want them so I get my donkey going :)
[09:32] < blindcoder> owl: again? STILL! :)
[09:32] < owl> blindcoder: ;)
[09:32] < Eisofen> rööö
[09:33] < blindcoder> re Eisi
[09:33] < blindcoder> be left back
[09:34] < aszlig> blindcoder: manga or anime *gg*
[09:36] < owl> so.... half-away again... bye
[09:37] < aszlig> si jah
[09:43] < blindcoder> aszlig I collect both
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[11:14] < blindcoder> moin bluefire
[11:14] < bluefire> moin blindcoder
[11:15] < blindcoder> okay... let's see if licq compiles...
[11:26] < blindcoder> okay... first wait for the whole gnome-pack and kde 30 to compile...
[11:31] < Freak> licq has a kde ui as well
[11:32] < blindcoder> jepp, I've made it a Config-Option
[11:33] < blindcoder> CLI, QT, KDE and GTK
[11:33] < Freak> ic
[11:33] < Freak> just wanted to make sure :)
[11:33] < blindcoder> hehe :)
[11:34] < blindcoder> at least it hasn't as much configuration options as nethack >_<
[11:34] < Freak> (:
[11:37] < blindcoder> had a look at nethack.conf?
[11:40] < Freak> nah
[11:40] < Freak> but I believe you tho.
[11:41] < blindcoder> I wrote it :) that file alone is enough to have a code auditor busy for a week
[11:44] < blindcoder> aaah! I should think before I type >_< damn... bad week, this one...
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[12:01] < blindcoder> hi tb
[12:02] < tb> hi blindcoder
[12:05] < blindcoder> brb c0ffee
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[12:08] < LocalHero> Hi all
[12:12] < blindcoder> hi LocalHero
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[12:18] < owl> re
[12:18] < owl> urgs.
[12:19] < owl> sleeping during a meeting is something what you should not do... ;)
[12:23] < blindcoder> re owl
[12:23] < blindcoder> hehe it's fine IMHO
[12:23] < blindcoder> I've done so, too :)
[12:42] < owl> *ggg*
[12:42] < owl> damn. i'm tired. where's my bed ? or keyboard...???
[12:46] < praenti> anyone compiling rock 1.7 with pentium 3 optimization?
[12:46] < owl> praenti: /quit brb.chaning server
[12:46] < owl> urgs
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[12:48] < owl> re
[12:49] < praenti> looks like binutils 2.13.90.0.14 have a problem with it. generic and athlon tbird works fine
[12:50] < owl> praenti: hm. the gcc3 compiled fine at your system...?
[12:51] < praenti> yes
[12:51]   owl had problems with binutils && gcc3 with 20021101-snap
[12:51] < owl> (pentium 4)
[12:51] < owl> hm...
[12:52] < praenti> owl: ohh. thats an old one. there is a problem with the cross-cc. use the cvs. clifford makes at the moment a rev-build.
[12:52] < praenti> after that he will release a new snap
[12:53] < owl> i c. ok. thx. will have a look to it in some days... (still builing rock-1.5 on my machine ;)
[12:56] < owl> ahm. to all "ingolstaedter": is there still a shop which sells jolt cola (in munich, ingolstadt or neuburg)?
[12:58] < praenti> i think blincoder has bought his jolt nearly always at the agip station at "ingolstadt nord"
[12:58] < owl> praenti: sounds great. thx. that will help to survive the week... :)))
[12:58] < praenti> but i dont know it exactly
[12:59] < owl> ok. will ask him ;)
[13:16] < blindcoder> re
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[13:26] < esden> hi all
[13:26] < esden> does anyone know how much disk space needs a rock mirror ?
[13:26] < esden> ftp
[13:28] < blindcoder> hi esden
[13:29] < blindcoder> mom
[13:29] < blindcoder> blindcoder@crazyhorse:~$ du -sh /usr/src/rock-src-1.7/download/
[13:29] < blindcoder> 1.2G    /usr/src/rock-src-1.7/download
[13:29] < blindcoder> something along these
[13:30] < esden> ok I say 4 GB
[13:30] < esden> will that be enough ?
[13:31] < blindcoder> for now it will...
[13:31] < blindcoder> wiss TUM mirror ROCK?
[13:31] < esden> hmm ..
[13:32] < esden> yes leo org
[13:32] < blindcoder> sweet
[13:32] < esden> how many people will download this stuff
[13:32] < esden> 500 ?
[13:33] < blindcoder> nah... don't think so
[13:33] < esden> i think I have to invent some numbers
[13:33] < esden> 100
[13:33] < esden> 50 ?
[13:33] < blindcoder> you should have been here yesterday evening
[13:33] < esden> aha ?
[13:33] < esden> why ?
[13:33] < blindcoder> maybe clifford could have given you some numbers
[13:34] < esden> no I do not think so
[13:34] < esden> I go talk to them
[13:34] < esden> cu
[13:34] < blindcoder> bye
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[14:03] < litost> morn
[14:06] < blindcoder> moin litost
[14:20] < rolla> re
[14:20] < esden> re hi all
[14:20] < esden> ok ... we will get the mirror
[14:20] < esden> ;-)
[14:21] < esden> iso image mirror and sources mirror ;-)
[14:21] < esden> but they are not mirroring websites
[14:21] < blindcoder> sweet
[14:21] < blindcoder> that's fine, I think
[14:22] < blindcoder> sources are taking up some more bandwidth
[14:24] < esden> yes
[14:24] < esden> blindcoder: should I forward you the email that I got ?
[14:25] < esden> about the mirror ?
[14:25] < blindcoder> forward it to the list, I'd say
[14:26] < esden> hmm ...
[14:26] < esden> ok
[14:27] < esden> hmm ... no it is in german
[14:28] < blindcoder> give it to me, I'll do a translation if you like :)
[14:28] < owl> hi esden
[14:28] < blindcoder> ro owly
[14:28] < blindcoder> s/ro/re/
[14:28] < esden> blindcoder: kk then you can decide wether to post it ;-)
[14:28] < esden> re owl
[14:29] < esden> bs????@bingo-ev.de ...
[14:29] < blindcoder> I'll post it in your name :D
[14:29] < blindcoder> 1544
[14:29] < esden> :P
[14:29] < blindcoder> or no
[14:29] < esden> ?
[14:29] < blindcoder> blindcoder@scazenger.homeip.net
[14:29] < blindcoder> argh
[14:29] < blindcoder> blindcoder@scavenger.homeip.net
[14:30] < esden> blindcoder: mail out
[14:32] < blindcoder> esden: hmm... okay, leave it to clifford, I'd say
[14:33] < esden> ok ...
[14:39] < blindcoder> esden: are you @bitz this evening?
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[14:41] < capchaos> hi
[14:41] < owl> hi capchaos
[14:41] < blindcoder> hi cappy
[14:42] < capchaos> hello owly, hello blindy
[14:42]   capchaos kisses his 'puter
[14:43] < blindcoder> why?
[14:44]   capchaos happy to be home again
[14:44] < blindcoder> what evil has he done to get this severe punishment?
[14:44] < capchaos> hehh
[14:46] < esden> blindcoder: yes I am
[14:46] < esden> I have to bring the box of my parents to roll(f) ;-)
[14:47] < blindcoder> esden: I'll take a train earlier today. Could I tell you what and how to do with the Web-Cert so that I can leave again if daMani isn't already there?
[14:47] < esden> yes ... if I will understand that ...
[14:48] < blindcoder> I feel rather tired the last few days
[14:48] < blindcoder> oxay, thanks
[14:49] < blindcoder> s/x/k/
[14:50] < esden> blindcoder: ohh really ?!?
[14:51] < blindcoder> yes, what's so surprising?
[14:51] < esden> that you are tired ... that is a normal state ...
[14:53] < blindcoder> well... more than usual
[14:54] < blindcoder> tired as in: "Don't talk to me or I will kill your first-born child in a Satanic Ritual that I need to ho in order to take over the world but I don't do it because it would be too much hard work involved but I will kill you instead without taking aver the world."
[14:55] < blindcoder> that sort of tired
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[15:00] < snyke> hm. lol.
[15:01] < snyke> debian has burned.
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[15:01] < temr> hoi
[15:02] < blindcoder> hi snyke
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[15:02] < blindcoder> hi temr
[15:02] < snyke> hi blindcoder
[15:02] < snyke> blindcoder: already read?
[15:02] < snyke> or better "know"?
[15:02] < blindcoder> snyke: mhat?
[15:02] < snyke> that debian is on fire
[15:02] < blindcoder> hae?
[15:03] < snyke> second
[15:03] < blindcoder> www.debian.org hardware is on fire?
[15:03] < snyke> you know "satie"-server?
[15:03] < blindcoder> no
[15:03] < snyke> https://webcam.traserv.com/brand.jpg <--- that is it
[15:03] < snyke> https://webcam.traserv.com/thumbnails/brand.jpg
[15:03] < blindcoder> huh?
[15:04] < snyke> that's it
[15:04] < snyke> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/adb-20.11.02-000/
[15:04] < snyke> here is the full article
[15:05] < blindcoder> urks
[15:05] < snyke> the comments are the best ;)
[15:05] < snyke> "didn't they have a firewall?"
[15:06] < blindcoder> hmm... I wonder why it isn't on /. yet :)
[15:06] < snyke> dunno
[15:07] < snyke> brb
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[15:09] < Mike1> moin all
[15:10] < blindcoder> moin Mike1
[15:10] < capchaos> hiya Miguel
[15:10] < Mike1> hi blindy und capy
[15:10] < rolla> Mike
[15:10] < Mike1> Joel
[15:11] < owl> hi Mike1 , rolla
[15:11] < rolla> hallo owl
[15:11]   Mike1 give a *bear hug* to owlita
[15:12] < Mike1> owl good day my friend
[15:13]   capchaos wonders if not an M$-hijacked plane crashed into that debian server?
[15:14] < Mike1> capchaos: ?
[15:14] < capchaos> 15:04 < snyke> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/adb-20.11.02-000/
[15:15] < blindcoder> hehe
[15:16] < owl> aszlig: what's wrong with the login to your server...???
[15:18] < Mike1> owlita having fun trying to login to aszlig's?
[15:18] < blindcoder> *lol*
[15:19]   capchaos searches for https://www.google.com/microsoft?q=ms+terror
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[15:20] < blindcoder> *LOOOL*
[15:21] < snyke> lol
[15:22] < Mike1> hehe
[15:22] < Mike1> moin hackbard
[15:22] < Mike1> m$ terror
[15:22] < capchaos> hi hagbard
[15:22] < hackbard> capchaos: nah!
[15:22] < Mike1> hugbard?
[15:22] < capchaos> ;)
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[15:23] < qubit_> moin all
[15:24] < [anders]> narf
[15:24] < Mike1> huhu [anders]
[15:24]   [anders] was not having a good day yesterday with the headache and the cough...
[15:24] < [anders]> huhu Mike1, how are things with you then?
[15:25]   [anders] now also have SuSE 8.1 installed on the laptop and can now start to work on rock a bit more efficently hopefully..
[15:25] < [anders]> (and a 60GB HDD which should help quite a bit...)
[15:26] < Mike1> i am great [anders] thanks
[15:26] < Mike1> getting o
[15:26] < Mike1> getting OpenBSD atm*
[15:27] < Mike1> also moving rsync server to another box, my HD is full!!
[15:27] < Mike1> 80gb
[15:28] < [anders]> Can't get 80GB HDD's for laptops yet.. :)
[15:28] < [anders]> 60GB is the max IIRC..
[15:29] < Mike1> [anders]: 80gb on my box i ment
[15:29] < Mike1> where i run 1.5 rsync
[15:29] < [anders]> when IBM's new pixie dust kicks in to manufacturing, should start to see bigger laptop disks, like 48GB one platter disks or maybe 60GB one platter disks..
[15:30] < rolla> :)
[15:31] < [anders]> Mike1: disk space is always an issue.. the 20 GB disk I used to have was to small and too slow..
[15:31] < [anders]> this is an 5400rpm disk, so should have better responsetime..
[15:31] < [anders]> :)
[15:31] < Mike1> [anders]: hopefully
[15:31] < Mike1> [anders]: whats the status on gnome2 tree?
[15:32] < Mike1> i have been very busy with a lot of issues
[15:32] < [anders]> no further forward as yet..
[15:32] < Mike1> ah ok
[15:32] < [anders]> I have been busy as well, should be able to start working on it in a little while.. Hoping that work will quieten down a little in the next few days..
[15:32] < [anders]> alien:~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda
[15:32] < [anders]> /dev/hda:
[15:32] < [anders]> Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.87 seconds =147.13 MB/sec
[15:32] < [anders]> Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  3.05 seconds = 20.98 MB/sec
[15:33] < [anders]> not bad results for a 2.5" laptop HDD... :)
[15:37] < Mike1> nice nice
[15:41] < SMP> *yawn*
[15:41] < Mike1> SMP: :)
[15:41] < blindcoder> morschn SMP
[15:41] < Mike1> SMP: i am downloading openbsd 3.2 ...
[15:44] < SMP> then you can read the documentation meanwhile ;=)
[15:44] < Mike1> SMP: i am already :)
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[15:53] < thalerim> moin all
[15:53] < blindcoder> moin
[16:16] < aszlig> owl: huh?
[16:17] < aszlig> owl: forgot your passwd?
[16:17] < aszlig> owl: or did john fond it?
[16:17] < aszlig> owl: usually it shouldn't
[16:18] < owl> aszlig: was zum geier weiss ich...! passwd habe ich ned vergessen!
[16:19] < owl> aszlig: ssh_exchange_authentification: Connection closed by remote host.
[16:19] < aszlig> owl: huh?
[16:19] < aszlig> owl: which version your client is?
[16:21] < owl> the same as yesterday... also the same notebook!
[16:22] < aszlig> uh..
[16:22] < aszlig> erm..
[16:26] < fake> re
[16:26] < blindcoder> hi fake
[16:26] < Mike1> re fake
[16:26] < fake> blaeh... sun pci pc... sucks.
[16:26] < fake> it's even slower than vmware...
[16:27] < blindcoder> is that at all possible?
[16:27] < fake> it may be because of the slow Sun WAN
[16:28] < fake> the server i started it was in Ratingen
[16:28] < fake> it on
[16:28] < blindcoder> oh...
[16:28]   owl goes home.
[16:28] < fake> owl: ssh onto port 22 gives that
[16:28] < owl> bye
[16:28] < fake> or 442
[16:29] < fake> err, 443
[16:29] < owl> fake: haeh? i have to connect to 110
[16:29] < fake> yes.
[16:29] < owl> (ask aszlig for details...)
[16:29] < fake> i ask myself for details ;P
[16:29] < owl> hm.
[16:29] < owl> sorry. no time. and "schnauze voll" will heim. geh heim. bye
[16:29] < fake> owl: i got that line wenn i tried to use transconnect
[16:29] < owl> (btw, bin ned im zug)
[16:30] < owl> i don't use it
[16:30] < owl> so. jettz raus.
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[16:31]   blindcoder falling asleep...
[16:32] < blindcoder> brb
[16:36] < blindcoder> re
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[17:34] < d3mian> hial
[17:34] < tcr> hail d3mian
[17:48] < huebi> moin
[17:49] < huebi> the release of 1.5.20 comes closer
[17:50] < huebi> the boot/root disks for i386/16MB are ready
[17:50] < d3mian> hi huebi , tcr
[17:50] < d3mian> :)
[17:50] < huebi> hi d3mian
[17:51] < huebi> but still much to do to get all things right for the release.
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[17:51] < huebi> I will be back later
[17:52] < huebi> cu
[17:52] < d3mian> cya huebi :)
[17:52] < tcr> mom huebi
[17:53] < tcr> huebi: procps 3.1.1 is out
[17:54] < Mike1> huebi:
[17:55] < Mike1> PING huebi
[17:55] < Mike1> damn :(
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[18:04] < sfritz> hi
[18:05] < Mike1> hi sfritz
[18:07] < sfritz> i read about rocklinux and now i want test it on my ibm thinkpad
[18:07] < d3mian> do it :)
[18:08] < sfritz> but i dont really know which version is the best for my purpose
[18:09] < sfritz> what are the differences?
[18:11] < sfritz> specially between the generic rocklinux and drock?
[18:11] < d3mian> i think there is a 1.5.19 iso somewhere, huebi will release 1.5.20 soon.
[18:11] < tcr> hm, you should wait until 1.5.20 will be released
[18:11]   Mike1 can't wait to read d3mian answer
[18:12] < d3mian> ?
[18:12] < Mike1> sfritz: 1.5.20 release is right in the front door and will come up anymoment
[18:12] < d3mian> Mike1: which one ?
[18:12] < Mike1> d3mian: nevermind thought you would comment about ROCK vs drock
[18:13] < d3mian> aeh ?
[18:13] < sfritz> so i should use a generic release? not the drock port?
[18:13] < Mike1> sfritz: what exactly do you need?
[18:14] < sfritz> i use this laptop for coding and browsing
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[18:15] < Mike1> i use generic ROCK for everything, but drock brings a few more packages for workstation stuff, such as abiword, gnumeric
[18:15] < Mike1> but this can be added to generic ROCK as well
[18:15] < sfritz> sometimes i need some "office" applications
[18:15] < sfritz> when i get .doc files from friends
[18:16] < Mike1> sfritz: well no matter if they come with the distro or not it is still really easy to install for eg. openoffice
[18:16] < sfritz> no problem
[18:17] < Mike1> also dROCK tree has not been updated since 1.6.1 was released as the maintainer is now taking care of 1.7 mostly
[18:17] < Mike1> so my suggestions is that you wait for generic ROCK 1.5.20
[18:17] < sfritz> ok
[18:22] < sfritz> some of the packages must be really uptodate, cause it's a new laptop
[18:23] < sfritz> i've found a packages list, of the latest development snapshot, but where can i find the packages included in the stable version
[18:40] < sfritz> where are you from?
[18:41] < Mike1> i am from Costa RIca
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[18:41] < Mike1> ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/opsys/linux/ROCK/ROCK-1.5/
[18:42] < sfritz> thx
[18:44] < sfritz> when will v1.7 go stable?
[18:45] < sfritz> should i wait?
[18:46] < Mike1> sfritz: there is not a close for it
[18:46] < Mike1> 1.7 is under heavy development at the moment
[18:46] < sfritz> because on the page it says 4Q 2002 ...
[18:47] < Mike1> i wouldnt bet on that
[18:47] < sfritz> :)
[18:47] < Mike1> go for 1.5
[18:47] < sfritz> k
[18:48] < sfritz> how many developers are currently working on rock
[18:48] < Mike1> Official developers: https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/gallery/
[18:48] < Mike1> but there are many other un official developpers
[18:49] < Mike1> that contribute with patches and testing
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[18:52] < Mike1> hi Lorini :)
[18:56] < Lorini> hi Mike1
[18:56]   Lorini is dead
[18:58] < Mike1> no dont die
[18:58]   capchaos has reincarnated Lorini *puhh* ;-)
[18:59] < Mike1> :)
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[18:59] < Lorini> thanks darling :)
[19:03] < capchaos> :>
[19:07] < SMP> "It is interesting to note that the autumn leaves falling on the northern hemisphere affects the angular momentum enough to change the Earths rotational rate measurably."
[19:07] < SMP> this is soo sick..
[19:08] < Mike1> lol
[19:09] < sfritz> :)
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[19:59] < rolla> re
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[20:14] < owl> re
[20:14] < capchaos> Griaz di, owlita.
[20:14] < Lorini> hi owl
[20:15] < owl> hi Lorini, capchaos
[20:15] < owl> wie geht's?
[20:15] < Lorini> gut gehts :)
[20:15] < capchaos> guad
[20:15] < owl> *g* mathe ueberlebt?
[20:15] < capchaos> selbst?
[20:15] < owl> wieder gut... nach koffein-einfluss... danke ;)
[20:15] < Lorini> ähm naja.. ich muss heute noch ziemlich was machen (dabei bin ich doch erst vor ner stunde ausser uni gekommen...ts)
[20:16]   capchaos needs coffee, *argh*
[20:16]   Lorini needs sleep
[20:16] < owl> *g*
[20:16] < Lorini> und ne warme decke
[20:16] < owl> hehe :)
[20:16]   capchaos mutiert zur decke
[20:16] < Lorini> *schnapp*
[20:16]   owl needs a rock-1.5 dev to ask a question...
[20:16] < owl> *lol*
[20:16] < Lorini> *einwickel*
[20:17] < Lorini> so
[20:17] < Lorini> danke :)
[20:17] < capchaos> :)
[20:17] < Lorini> *aufwärm*
[20:17] < capchaos> owl: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[20:18] < Mike1> re
[20:18] < capchaos> there he comes :)
[20:18] < owl> ok.
[20:19] < owl> "What printer spooler do you prefer to use with Elm? [] Please give the full path name" << if i'm doing ./scripts/Build-All COPY
[20:19] < Mike1> * owl needs a rock-1.5 dev to ask a question...
[20:20] < owl> how can i continue building rock-1.5...?
[20:20] < Mike1> mom
[20:21] < owl> and in rock-1.7-cvs there r some checksum failures (and some other failures)... (when will it be fixed)?
[20:22] < Mike1> owl: 1.7 well i don't know depends on when rene fix his packages
[20:22] < Mike1> as well cloiff has several broken packages
[20:23] < Mike1> owl: regarding your build if you aborted it you simply need to re-run ./scripts/Build-All COPY
[20:23] < Mike1> or LINK
[20:23] < Mike1> depending on what you are using
[20:23] < SMP> touch _nodel_
[20:23] < owl> i didn't abort (yet)
[20:24] < rolla> Owl
[20:24] < owl> ih rolla
[20:24] < Mike1> SMP: touch _nodel_ is no longer needed since 1.5.17
[20:24] < Mike1> as it doesnt clean up by default
[20:24] < SMP> oh I remember vaguely
[20:24] < owl> but why asks me elm questions during building?
[20:24] < Mike1> SMP: i remeber clearly :)
[20:24] < owl> hi SMP, btw
[20:25] < Mike1> SMP: sleeped all?
[20:25] < SMP> mainly because elm sucks
[20:25] -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder
[20:25] < Mike1> owl: theres your answer :)
[20:25] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[20:25] < Mike1> hi blindcoder
[20:25] < owl> *g* well. broken elm == normal elm? well
[20:25] < owl> hi blindy
[20:26] < Lorini> hallöchen blindcoder
[20:26] < SMP> Mike1: slept a few hours before noon. snugged into an armchair in the office
[20:27] < owl> aeh. thx btw for the help
[20:27] < Mike1> SMP: i already tried installing OpenBSD but it gives me an error of unkown hd label
[20:27] < blindcoder> wow! Today I've got my first Spam Mail @Home :)
[20:27] < SMP> at what point? in fdisk or disklabel?
[20:28] < blindcoder> Lorini: Hi! How's math? *g*
[20:29] < Mike1> SMP: fdisk
[20:29] < Lorini> blindcoder: grauenhaft (keine ahnung was das in englisch heißt)
[20:29] < tcr> terrible?
[20:29] < tcr> horrible?
[20:29] < SMP> Mike1: do you want to use the whole disk?
[20:30] < Mike1> ack
[20:30] < Mike1> its a 8GB hd
[20:30] < Lorini> ja.. so in etwa, nur schlimmer
[20:30] < tcr> cruelly ;)
[20:30] < SMP> then answer yes and the installer will do the fdisk automagiacally
[20:30] < tcr> brb
[20:30] -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813987.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos")
[20:30] < Lorini> :)
[20:30] < Mike1> SMP: answer yes where??
[20:31] < blindcoder> Lorini: okay, I shourdn't have ankei :)
[20:31] < blindcoder> asked
[20:31] < blindcoder> checking for vector.h... no
[20:31] < blindcoder> configure: error: You need to have the libstdc++ headers installed
[20:31] < blindcoder> nice...
[20:31] < Lorini> *g* exactly
[20:31] < Mike1> SMP: "  Do you want to use *all* of wd0 for OpenBSD? [no] yes" ???
[20:31] < blindcoder> Lorini: do you feel better if I tell you that my day was horrible, too?
[20:32] < SMP> Mike1: exactly. what happens then?
[20:32] < Lorini> blindcoder: a bit :)
[20:32] < Mike1> SMP: mom i will try
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[20:33] < blindcoder> Lorini: okay, my day was horrible >_<
[20:33] < Lorini> blindcoder: lol...
[20:33] < Lorini> and now the truth ;)
[20:33] < blindcoder> it was boring as hell
[20:34] < Lorini> boring.. i wish my days were only boring
[20:34] < blindcoder> why?
[20:34] < blindcoder> nothing worse than a boring day
[20:34] < Lorini> because my days are long (!) and boring :)
[20:35] < Lorini> brb
[20:35] < blindcoder> okay
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[20:39] < Lorini> re
[20:39] < blindcoder> re
[20:41] < Mike1> SMP: ok it gave me a flood of errors but i am at the disklabel now
[20:42] < Mike1> i will continue the procedure to see what happends
[20:42] < SMP> yup
[20:43] < SMP> brb
[20:43] < Mike1> SMP: funny thing if i run 'p m' i don't get as much info as i see on the Install Guide sample
[20:44] < SMP> which file / URL is that?
[20:45] -!- chrisMAMPF [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4dcf.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux
[20:46]   blindcoder shouldn't watch this much Anime...
[20:46] -!- d3mian [~capone@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux
[20:46] < d3mian> re
[20:46] < owl> re d3mian
[20:46] < blindcoder> hi d3mian
[20:46] < Mike1> SMP: https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html
[20:47] < SMP> what's missing?
[20:47] -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p5080716A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
[20:48] < Mike1> SMP: everything before:
[20:48] < Mike1>   #        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize   cpg]
[20:48] < Mike1>     a: 17593.2M  1498.7M    unused        0     0
[20:48] < Mike1>     c: 19092.9M     0.0M    unused        0     0
[20:48] < Mike1>     i:  1498.7M     0.0M     MSDOS
[20:49] < Mike1> thats sort more or less the only info i get when i run 'p m'
[20:50] < SMP> oh yes. probably the FAQ is outdated there.
[20:50]   d3mian installed FreeBSD weekend
[20:50] < SMP> I never saw the missing lines. they're not at all important
[20:50] < Mike1> SMP: ok :)
[20:52] < Mike1> SMP: i think my problem is that the hd has several demaged sectors
[20:54]   Mike1 is looking for another hd
[20:54] < SMP> well it should work anyway, but ...
[20:54] < Mike1> mm...
[20:58] < Mike1> SMP: i am using another hd now i am not getting any errors with this one
[20:58] < d3mian> cya
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[21:01] < Mike1> SMP: hehe erasing data ...
[21:03] -!- Freak [freak@p508395EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
[21:03] < owl> hi Freak
[21:03] -!- chrisMAM1F [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4949.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Connection timed out)
[21:07] < Freak> huhu
[21:07] < Mike1> Freak: :)
[21:07] < Mike1> SMP: ok i am choosing instalation media
[21:14] -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813366.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("brb")
[21:18] < hackbard> huebi: bist du da?
[21:18] < Mike1> hallo hackbard
[21:18] < hackbard> hi miguel
[21:18] < Mike1> hackbard: huebi has been away for a while now
[21:18] < Mike1> :((
[21:18] < hackbard> ohh, ic
[21:20] < hackbard> looks like i have to google for obp ;)
[21:20] < Mike1> weeee!! OpenBSD is finally installing :)
[21:21]   Mike1 *jumping*
[21:25] < owl> *yawning*
[21:25] < owl> hi hackbard
[21:26]   Lorini has finished maths... for today
[21:26] < fake> grml
[21:27] < fake> devfs is broken in 2.5.48
[21:27] < fake> the format of atime,ctime and mtime seem have changed
[21:29] < hackbard> hey owl
[21:29] < hackbard> fake!
[21:31] < SMP> re
[21:32] < Mike1> re SMP
[21:35] < Mike1> lucy# uname -a
[21:35] < Mike1> OpenBSD lucy.informatica.co.cr 3.2 GENERIC#25 i386
[21:35] < Mike1> lucy#
[21:36] < SMP> you might want to use ksh instead of csh if you're used to bash
[21:36] < Mike1> any of then works fine for me
[21:36] < Mike1> let me see ksh ..
[21:45] < fake> hi hackbard !
[21:46] < fake> oh... the times in fs.h are now timespec, and no longer time_t, because xfs supports nanosecond granularity ;)
[21:46] -!- capchaos is now known as anakin^slayer
[21:47] < blindcoder>   It's always the same with women  *shakes head*
[21:47] < Lorini> huch?
[21:48] -!- anakin^slayer is now known as capcha0s
[21:48] < blindcoder> Lorini: I'm watching Azumanga Daioh, so don't worry :)
[21:49] < blindcoder> and just laughing my a$$ off :)
[21:49] < Lorini> ;)
[21:50] < blindcoder> okay, firing up the next episode...
[21:57] < hackbard> yo fake, weisst du zufaellig wie man sich retten kann, wenn man beim 'open boot prom' input-device auf none gestellt hat?
[21:59] -!- d3mian [~capone@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux
[21:59]   d3mian listens Static X - Black And White
[21:59] < d3mian> hial
[22:01] < fake> hehe
[22:01]   fake just patched devfs in 2.5.48
[22:01] < fake> hackbard: ein system bootet doch noch, oder?
[22:02]   d3mian listens Therion - Wine of Alugah
[22:03]   capcha0s listens to Iced Earth - Burning Oasis ;-)
[22:03] < d3mian> ;-) capcha0s
[22:04] < fake> hackbard: if you have one running, there is a tool called 'eeprom'
[22:04] < fake> with that you can re-set it
[22:06] < hackbard> fake: no, the kernel gets tranfered via tftp, but thewn it stops saying: inconsistent console: input 3, output 0.
[22:07] < hackbard> obp doesnt know 'none' ... i just thought if i set it, it will boot wothout keyboard attached %)
[22:07]   Freak doesn't currently play any music
[22:07] < Freak> (kommt e bissl spät.. abr smusst sei)
[22:07] < d3mian> poor Freak
[22:07] < hackbard> terrible mistake, i ll try via serial tommorrow
[22:07] < hackbard> have to leave, later ..
[22:07] < d3mian> cya hackbard
[22:08] < Freak> well its not actually correct because I have a cd spinning in my cdplayer and the headphones on high volume..
[22:08]   d3mian listens Moonspell - Nocturna
[22:08] < fake> hackbard: yes, unplug keyboard, attach serial...
[22:09]   Mike1 listens to his boss yelling to guy he will definitly fire...
[22:10] < d3mian> poor Mike1
[22:10] < d3mian> what are u gonna do now ?
[22:10] < Mike1> d3mian: i am not the guy
[22:10] < d3mian> hehe
[22:10] < d3mian> sure , jk
[22:10] < d3mian> ;-)
[22:10] < Mike1> d3mian: i wil just sit, relax and listen
[22:10] < d3mian> they wont fire u!, i guess
[22:10] < d3mian> they need u as one needs sex
[22:10] < Mike1> no they wont
[22:11] < fake> monks don't need sex...
[22:11] < Mike1> but i will leave this company sometime next year i guess
[22:11] < d3mian> as u want
[22:12] < Mike1> d3mian: always
[22:12] < Mike1> :)
[22:13]   d3mian listens Moonspell - Love crimes
[22:13]   blindcoder shouldn't watch this anime or he will definately die...
[22:14]   capcha0s listens to Soulfly - Jumpdafsckup
[22:15] < Mike1> blindcoder: what anime?
[22:15] < blindcoder> Azumanga Daioh
[22:15] < d3mian> this spim (MIPS simulator) suckz a lot
[22:15] < d3mian> :'(
[22:16] < owl> re
[22:17] < blindcoder> I have so far watched 7 eps and it's already one of the funniest ones I've seen next to Love Hina and Jungle wa itsumo Hale nochi Guu
[22:17] < blindcoder> re ewly
[22:17] < d3mian> hi owl !
[22:17] < blindcoder> owly
[22:17] < owl> ;) remoin d3mian, blindcoder
[22:18] < blindcoder> but now I have to go to bed >_< need to get up in 7 hours again...
[22:18] < blindcoder> n8 everyone!!
[22:18] < owl> blindcoder: gn8. have fun at work tomorrow ;PPP
[22:18] < d3mian> cya blindcoder !
[22:19] < Lorini> nacht!
[22:19] < d3mian> hi Lorini
[22:20] -!- d3mian is now known as capone
[22:20] < capone> fake: have u used a MIPS simulator before ?
[22:21] < Mike1> owlita status of ur 1.5 build?
[22:21] < fake> capone: nope.
[22:21] < fake> 7 hrs of sleep... how luxury.
[22:21] < Mike1> capone: fake uses the real thing :)
[22:22] < capone> k
[22:22] < owl> Mike1: compiling... somewhere where openssl seems to be used :)
[22:22] < Mike1> owl: stage?
[22:22] < Mike1> i guess 3
[22:22] < Lorini> hi capone :)
[22:22] < owl> i don't know... can
[22:23] < owl> t see any messages right now
[22:23] < Mike1> ok owly
[22:23] < capone> my first prob will be a MIPS compressor
[22:23] < capone> prob/prog
[22:24] < capone> using Huffman trees
[22:24] < capone> what i like of MIPS is the veriety of branches
[22:25] < Mike1> y los pericos y demas pajaros subidos en las ramas?
[22:25] < Mike1> *gggg*
[22:25] < capone> hehe
[22:26] -!- tsa [~tsa@p5082BF18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux
[22:26] < tsa> moin
[22:26] < capone> hi tsa
[22:26] < owl> moinsen tsa
[22:26] < Mike1> moin tsa
[22:26]   Mike1 ready to launch a new build
[22:28]   owl needs a strong, black espresso... *dreaming*
[22:30] < tsa> .oO( owl needs a strong, black man.. )
[22:30] < tsa> *duck*
[22:30] < capone> umm
[22:33] < owl> tsa: nope. just a black computer... with great design and fast... uhm...
[22:33] < Mike1> and a black man for chair
[22:33] < owl> Mike1: nope.
[22:34] < Mike1> *ggggg*
[22:34] < owl> i don't need a man, i need a hacker ;) (but not a black one...)
[22:36] < capone> why dunt ?
[22:36] < owl> but... might i should try to become a member of M$ staff... M$ pays well... so i could buy a man... *thinking* *vbeg*
[22:36] < Mike1> owl: tsa is a hacker
[22:36] < owl> not tsa  ;P
[22:36] < tsa> Mike1: nope, i'm a script-kiddie ;-)))
[22:36] < Mike1> owl M$ no M$ member have enought money to buy a real hacker
[22:37] < owl> tsa: full ACK
[22:37] < tsa> owl: thanks.
[22:37] < owl> Mike1: hm. i have no money. :)
[22:37] < owl> tsa: buedde. gern geschehen. hat mich nix gekostet
[22:38] < tsa> ..noch nicht.
[22:38] < owl> tsa: wie meinen sie das?
[22:38] < Mike1> owl buy me a house and i waranty you tsa will be urs
[22:38] < owl> *lol* no. no. and finally: no+
[22:39] < Lorini> lol
[22:40] < owl> Lorini: help me! protest gegen die boese maennerwelt ;)
[22:40] < Mike1> i knew you would like my deal
[22:40] < Lorini> *mitprotest*
[22:40] < owl> *g*
[22:40] < owl> Mike1: no.
[22:40] < Mike1> tsa: packa ur stuff you are moving with owl
[22:40] < Mike1> *gggg*
[22:40] < tsa> Mike1: ARRRRGH! NO!
[22:40] < owl> *lol*
[22:40]   capone waiting for Mike1 ..
[22:41] < tsa> Mike1: AFAIK, owl was _your_ sex slave and not mine,..
[22:41] < Mike1> tsa: oh sorry my friend i am confused
[22:41] < owl> TSA!!!!
[22:41] < Mike1> capone: is the one that wants owl
[22:41] < tsa> owl: hm?
[22:41] < owl> tstststs.
[22:42] < tsa> owowowow.
[22:42] < owl> tsa: ruhe da! das ist geheim...! ;P
[22:42] < capone> umm. https://evilsoft.homelinux.net/~demian/
[22:42] < capone> oh sure, i love owl like God loves mankind
[22:42] < capone> right owl  ?
[22:42] < capone> hehe
[22:42] < owl> god???
[22:42] < owl> /whois god?
[22:42] < capone> the one who did u!
[22:42] -!- Mike1 is now known as God
[22:43] < God> i am God
[22:43] < capone> the one who did the mistake of create a woman.. :-/
[22:43] < owl> *lol* nonono. all boys r crazy here...
[22:43] < God> capone: i dont make mistakes
[22:43] < God> i just do testing and not all tests are successfull
[22:43] < capone> umm.
[22:43] < tsa> hm...nice chick on this page..
[22:43] < capone> u just have fun here
[22:44] -!- God is now known as Mike1
[22:44] < Mike1> God has spoke
[22:44] < capone> re Mike1
[22:44] < capone> who cares
[22:44] < capone> hehe
[22:44] < Mike1> capone: i care
[22:45] < Mike1> God is the reason of my existence
[22:45] < tsa> where can i order this chick?
[22:45] < capone> tsa: gimme $1000 and we will negotiate
[22:45] < Mike1> tsa: VISA, MASTERCARD, or Paypal? how will you pay?
[22:45] < tsa> Mike1: i'll be the reason of you disappearing, then ;-)
[22:45] < capone> lo
[22:45] < capone> l
[22:45] < Mike1> tsa: i doub so
[22:46] < tsa> Mike1: send all cute chicks to me and i won't harm you, ok? ;)
[22:46] < Mike1> capone will you face the responsability for qubit_'s pregnacy?
[22:47] < capone> who is qubit ?
[22:47] < tsa> Mike1 will you face the responsability for owl's pregnacy?
[22:47] < Lorini> good night everybody
[22:47] < owl> EH!!!
[22:47] < owl> bye Lorini
[22:47] < owl> have fun with maths ;)
[22:47] < Mike1> tsa: of course not that kid is urs
[22:47] < capone> cya Lorini
[22:47] < tsa> cu Lorini
[22:47] < Mike1> nacht Lorini
[22:47] < Lorini> owl: argh..
[22:47] < Lorini> cya
[22:47] < owl> Lorini: haha *eg*
[22:47] -!- Lorini is now known as LoriZzZ
[22:48] < capone> owl: how do u feel about be the focus point here ?
[22:48] < owl> capone: *g* should i care about it? nope.
[22:48] < capone> hehe
[22:48]   Mike1 grabs his shotgun ..
[22:49] < owl> Mike1: will you kill yourself?
[22:49] < tsa> capone: owl likes to have many men...so i guess she probably likes it ;-) *duck*
[22:49] < Mike1> ocus pocus focus *BUMMM* capone's head is gone
[22:49] < owl> Mike1: *g* one boy less on this world. who cares?
[22:49] < capone> :'(
[22:49] < owl> oh, poor capone ;P
[22:49] < capone> a girl spoke!. who cares ?
[22:50] < owl> *g* you - you answered
[22:50] < litost> well, one less man will improve my odds :)
[22:50] < litost> no offense capone ;)
[22:50] < capone> one man less, give more chance others to get more girls
[22:50] < Mike1> hi litost
[22:51] < litost> what's up Miguel
[22:51] < owl> hi litost.
[22:51] < Mike1> less man more gays that will imporve chances for getting chicks
[22:51] < Mike1> litost: the sky, there?
[22:51] < litost> it's a little dreary
[22:51] < fake> grml.
[22:52] < litost> how are you owl?
[22:52] < owl> litost: great. thx. you? wanna get "sick of it all" mp3s?
[22:52] < litost> yes please :)
[22:52] < esden> n8 ;-)
[22:52] < Mike1> hi esdy
[22:53] < esden> hi Mike1 and good night
[22:53] < capone> n8 esden
[22:53] < Mike1> nacht esdy
[22:53]   esden driving to DHR
[22:53] < owl> bye, gn8 esden
[22:53] < owl> esden: do you still need rock-1.7.src-cdroms?
[22:53] < esden> nope
[22:53] < owl> great
[22:54] < owl> litost: do you still know the url...?
[22:54] < litost> yes :)
[22:55] < litost> i'm sucking your throughput as we speak
[22:55] < rolla> bored
[22:55] < owl> litost: no problem.
[22:55] < Mike1> rolla hug owl
[22:55] < owl> aaaaaaaahrg
[22:56] < rolla> no I will not
[22:56] < Mike1> hehe
[22:56] < owl> thx a lot rolla
[22:56] < Mike1> rolla: run a new build
[22:56] < rolla> too much pain
[22:57] < owl> rolla: :P
[22:57] < rolla> I am installing .Net studio right now :(
[22:57] < tsa> waaaaaaaaah!
[22:57] < rolla> you want me to hug you?
[22:57] < owl> rolla: haha! i feel with you...
[22:57] < Mike1> 0_o
[22:58] < capone> bah. damn spim, causes segfaults :(
[23:00] < capone> Mike1: what list of projects then? ill be available after november 28
[23:02] < Mike1> capone: finish Tratagua first please, then we will go for some development
[23:03] < capcha0s> n8
[23:03] -!- capcha0s [~capchaos@pD9048F28.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("There is no spoon.")
[23:03] < Mike1> have you got in contact with satg already?
[23:03] < Mike1> capone: can you come by to San Jose today?
[23:04] < Mike1> join me at satg's office we will get some food talk about projects
[23:04] < fake> swsup still does not work -_-
[23:09] < capone> Mike1: no, i cant, till 27 or later, too busy
[23:09] < capone> :(
[23:09] < capone> Mike1: no yet
[23:10] < Mike1> capone: arrggg
[23:11] < capone> really, i cant.
[23:11] < Mike1> ok ask me again about the projects status when you are available
[23:11] < capone> sure
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[23:17] < capone> hi WKaibigan
[23:17] < WKaibigan> Hi capone
[23:17]   fake debugging swsup... brb.
[23:21] < Mike1> capone: have you seen Sarah Cheaib at hdw today?
[23:22] < capone> Sarah ? well no... last time i was arriving when she was leaving
[23:22] < capone> and i dunt see her since a long time
[23:22] < Mike1> :( ok thanks
[23:24] < litost> see you guys later, have a good day
[23:24] < capone> cya litost
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[23:24] < capone> Mike1: i still dunno who is sarah, who is her ?
[23:24]   capone stills think she is Syrx sister :p
[23:30] < tsa> n8
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