--- Log opened Thu Nov 21 00:00:32 2002 --- Day changed Thu Nov 21 2002 00:08 -!- Freak [freak@p508395EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 00:16 < Mike1> pin SMP 00:16 < Mike1> ping* 00:38 < owl> re 00:38 < Mike1> re owl 00:38 < owl> a keyboard is a real horrible pillow 00:43 < Mike1> i go now 00:43 < Mike1> see you 00:43 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 01:11 < fake> humgrr 01:13 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522D86.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:14 < owl> gn8. 01:15 -!- owl [~mail-spam@Aee5d.pppool.de] has quit ("sleeping") 02:33 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:33 < Mike1> re 02:33 < capone> Mike1 02:34 < Mike1> hi capone 02:34 < SMP> jo 02:34 < Mike1> hi SMPy 02:35 < Mike1> brbr 02:35 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has quit (Client Quit) 02:36 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 02:40 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has joined #rocklinux 02:40 < Mike1> ok now i am back :) 02:40 < Mike1> SMP: i have been OpenBSDing today 02:40 < Mike1> it has been fun 02:41 < SMP> good to hear 02:41 < Mike1> SMP: tomorrow i will configure a firewall with PF 02:42 < Mike1> and have an internet gateway to test conection sharing 02:42 < Mike1> SMP: thanks for convincing me to try OpenBSD i am having fun :) 02:43 < SMP> yeah that's what it'all about :) 02:43 < Mike1> of course :) 02:43 < SMP> and keep on working on ROCK so it will someday be as good as OpenBSD ;) 02:44 < Mike1> LOL 02:44 < Mike1> ok but you help us too :) 02:44 < SMP> well if we all try, we might succeed 02:45 < Mike1> ack 02:46 < SMP> (not that ROCK is particularly bad, just for the record ;) 02:47 < Mike1> SMP: sure ROCK is not a distro for mortals so it must be something 02:48 < SMP> well I think ROCK is a good place to from for making one 02:48 < SMP> as I said before.. someday I will re-implement Gentoo with ROCK ;> 02:48 < Mike1> mm.. ? explain please 02:50 < SMP> well. that would basically amount to packing up an incomplete build 02:50 < Mike1> i see 02:52 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p5080716A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 02:58 < Mike1> *yawn* 03:07 -!- Mike1 [mike@rocklinux.de] has quit ("leaving") 03:22 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 03:41 -!- Ge0rG_ [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Der Sinn des Lebens ist die Suche nach eben jenem.") 04:09 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 05:36 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090BDE1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:38 -!- kasc [~shaman@p5090B836.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:03 -!- Mike1 [~root@196.40.66.19] has joined #rocklinux 06:07 -!- Mike1 [~root@196.40.66.19] has quit ("leaving") 07:37 -!- zer0_o^ [~zer0_o@217.14.64.20] has joined #rocklinux 07:43 -!- LoriZzZ is now known as Lorini 07:59 < blindcoder> moin 08:01 < Lorini> moin 08:02 < Lorini> und gleich wieder ciao 08:02 < Lorini> uni ruft 08:02 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW 08:48 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has joined #rocklinux 08:48 < capone> hi all 08:49 < blindcoder> hi capone 09:32 < fake> morgen 09:33 < blindcoder> morschn 09:34 * blindcoder taking a look at his webalizer stats 09:34 < capone> hi fake 09:35 < blindcoder> 120 Referrer... 217 Search Strings... 44 Countries... 09:35 < blindcoder> erm...okay... 09:37 < blindcoder> 28 16 0.19% 0 0.00% 5 0.00% Old style Arpanet (arpa) 09:37 < blindcoder> hmm... 10:05 -!- Freak [freak@p50839F11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:06 < capone> hi Freak 10:06 < capone> nice, pine now works with gpg :) 10:09 < capone> umm. but it stil uses my rsa key :( 10:09 < fake> pine is for People Inable to use Natural Environments like mutt *g* 10:10 * capone having a look at mutt right now 10:12 < capone> what is the key to start configuring it ? 10:13 < capone> k mail-key mail a PGP public key 10:13 < capone> oh 10:13 < capone> already has it :) 10:16 * capone pressed F1 10:17 * capone pressed q 10:17 < capone> ill take a look later, cya 10:17 < capone> it's late here 10:20 < blindcoder> capone: man muttrc :) 10:20 < blindcoder> one can't start to think that sending an email can require a gazillion options >_< 10:29 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:31 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@p5080716A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 10:42 < hackbard> moin 10:42 -!- hackbard is now known as qubit_ 10:55 -!- Freak [freak@p50839F11.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client excited") 11:04 < fake> WEEEEE 11:04 < fake> software suspend works! 11:05 < blindcoder> fake: nice :) 11:08 < blindcoder> licq doesn't >_< 11:11 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:11 < owl> moin 11:12 < fake> blindcoder: on my 1.7 build licq built easily... 11:12 < fake> morgen owl 11:13 < blindcoder> fake: on mine it doesn't find vector.h 11:13 < owl> hi fake, blindcoder 11:13 < blindcoder> moin owl 11:13 < owl> ach schande... jetzt gleich religion... *heul* 11:15 < blindcoder> haha 11:18 -!- qubit__ [~hackbard@pD95233FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:20 < blindcoder> fake: which version 11:23 < fake> 2002/11/06 11:23 < blindcoder> cvs, so not a release? 11:24 < fake> ah. you mean licq. 11:24 < fake> not rock ;) 11:24 < owl> bye 11:24 -!- owl [~owl@aszlig.net] has quit ("fscking regligion") 11:24 -!- Freak [freak@p50839F11.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:25 < blindcoder> yes, I mean licq... 11:25 < fake> cvs, yes 11:26 < blindcoder> hmm... that's bad... 11:31 < Freak> https://linuid.dhis.org/~freak/guckmal/screenshots/20021121_11.24.21.jpg 11:35 -!- qubit_ [~hackbard@p5080716A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:44 -!- qubit__ [~hackbard@pD95233FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("5min") 11:51 -!- hackbard [~hackbard@pD95233FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 11:51 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-169-239.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 111 (Connection refused)) 11:53 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-168-199.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 12:26 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 13:08 -!- rxr_ [~rene@port-212-202-168-252.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has joined #rocklinux 13:08 -!- rxr [~rene@port-212-202-168-199.reverse.qdsl-home.de] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:26 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:26 < tcr> moin all 14:27 -!- Ge0rG [a@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:31 < blindcoder> moin moin 14:31 < Ge0rG> huhu 14:34 < blindcoder> boy, I'm tired >_< 14:34 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:37 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:37 < blindcoder> re tcr 14:39 -!- owl [~mail-spam@p50802BCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 14:39 < owl> moin girls 14:39 < blindcoder> moin boy 14:40 < owl> blindcoder: tsss. 14:41 < blindcoder> what? 14:42 < owl> nuex 14:42 < blindcoder> okay :) 14:48 < tcr> is there something like isalpha() or isdigit() at shell level? 14:49 < blindcoder> hmm... you could do some interesting things with sed and then compare the result with the original 14:50 < blindcoder> like if [ $num == ` echo $num | sed 's,[^0-9],,g' ` ] 14:51 < tcr> lol 14:51 < tcr> that's _very_ rustical 14:51 < blindcoder> well... it just might work :) 14:57 < fake> if [ $(($var+1)) -gt $var ] ? 14:58 < tcr> if [[ "$ch1" -ge "0" && "$ch1" -le "9" ]]; then 14:59 * blindcoder thinks about going home... 15:00 -!- litost [~user@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has joined #rocklinux 15:00 < litost> morning 15:01 < blindcoder> moin 15:01 < owl> hi litost 15:01 < litost> how are you owl? 15:03 < owl> litost: great thx. school is over for today. 15:03 -!- Lorini_ [~Lorini@pD9506DBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:03 < blindcoder> re Lorini_ 15:03 < owl> hi Lorini_ 15:05 -!- LoriAW [~Lorini@p3EE218A5.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:06 < owl> cu later. 15:06 -!- owl [~mail-spam@p50802BCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("shutdown -h now") 15:20 < rolla> re 15:25 < fake> blindcoder: i might not be on the train tonight 15:25 < blindcoder> me neither 15:25 < blindcoder> I'm leaving early today 15:27 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 15:27 < fake> OH MY GOD 15:27 < Mike1> moin 15:27 < fake> I DRUNK DECOFFEINATED COFFEE 15:27 < fake> WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH 15:27 -!- clifford [~clifford@M088P014.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 15:27 < Mike1> fake: buahahahaha 15:28 * fake dying 15:28 < Mike1> hi clifford 15:28 < fake> *spit* *spit* *spit* 15:28 < clifford> bye fake.. ;-) 15:28 < rolla> ha 15:28 < clifford> hi all! 15:28 < fake> hi clifford ...! 15:28 < blindcoder> hi clifford 15:28 < fake> clifford: I DRUNK DECOFFEINATED COFFEE 15:28 < blindcoder> fake: let me guess: you didn't even notice :) 15:28 < Mike1> clifford: wie geht es Ihnen? 15:28 * clifford never drinks coffee.. 15:28 < fake> blindcoder: just now 15:29 < blindcoder> after the second cup? :) 15:29 < fake> clifford: what wonder happened so that we see you here? 15:29 < clifford> Mike1: I've forwared the new rsync data to the gd.tuwien.ac.at maintainer now. 15:29 < fake> blindcoder: yes -_- 15:29 < blindcoder> hmm... that reminds me of the JOLT-Cola patch for nethack 15:29 < Mike1> clifford: yes thanks you, i already read your email 15:30 < Mike1> clifford: that damn hard drive was full, the new host has a lot more of space 15:30 < blindcoder> speaking of coffee.... /me getting the last cup before his co-worker does.. 15:31 < clifford> mike: also fixed the 'arround' in rolling rock issue #2 now. 15:33 < fake> clifford: how's things? 15:35 < clifford> all a little bit stressy - as usual. 15:36 < fake> heh, would be boring if everything would be relaxed ;) 15:37 < clifford> beeing bored some times doesn't sound so bad to me at the moment .. ;-) 15:38 < fake> clifford: are you, by chance, a bit into the current kernel vt code? 15:38 < tcr> uh, i've found a bug in bash or glob 15:39 < tcr> ah 15:39 < blindcoder> tcr I know that feeling :) 15:40 < tcr> hmm. misinterpreted something, it isn't a bug 15:40 < blindcoder> *ARGH* 15:40 < clifford> fake: why? I wrote this hacky disable-blankscreen patch - that's all I made with the vt code so far. 15:40 < clifford> tcr: is it a feature? ;-) 15:40 < blindcoder> now, let's hope muy X doesn't crash... somebody fscked up the NFS-Servers... 15:41 < fake> clifford: the sgi-ip22 console driver does not honor devfs.. :( maybe we could hack at that at 19C3 ? 15:42 < clifford> we'll try.. 15:42 < tcr> clifford: if you want to a - in [] among other characters, you have to use [-other_chars] 15:42 < tcr> heh, it's even documentated! 15:44 < clifford> tcr: yes - or you quote it with a backslash. 15:45 < blindcoder> okay... me leaving 15:45 < fake> clifford: i'll bring 2 chunks of extra time... ;)) 15:45 < fake> cu blindcoder 15:45 < blindcoder> I'm going home... those *^%$%^ at the NFS-Servers will take their tim... 15:45 < clifford> cu blindy. 15:45 < blindcoder> see ya 15:45 < clifford> fake: and dont forgett the instant-sleep ;-) 15:46 < fake> software suspend... grrr. 2.5.48 ... GRRR... need... real... coffee... 15:55 -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini 15:56 * tcr is listening to Hammerfall - The Dragon Lies Bleeding 15:56 < Lorini> re 15:57 < fake> wo is eigentlich der pole? 15:58 < tcr> "come across to the promised, close your eyes, i'll take your hand, through the river still we go, where the dragon lies bleeding.." 15:58 < clifford> gute frage - der schuldet mir noch einen dietlibc artikel.. ;-) 15:59 < fake> idle : 17 hours 5 mins 15:59 < fake> wow... 16:07 < tcr> hmm 16:08 < tcr> /var/adm/packages/termcap exist, but there doesn't seem to exist a package in the 1.5 sources 16:11 < tcr> huebi: ? 16:13 < tcr> clifford: have you ever written a function that compares two versionsstring ? (if newer, return that, if older, return that, if equal return that) 16:14 < tcr> talking about bash 16:20 < clifford> tcr: scripts/Check-PkgVersion 16:21 < tcr> how can i fetch only this file from your cvs? 16:24 < fake> https://ww.rocklinux.org/sources/scripts/Check-PkgVersion 16:24 < fake> s,ww,www, 16:27 < fake> gr... no 'dialog' on solaris 16:27 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:28 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 16:28 < tcr> damn 16:32 < fake> tcr: saw my link? 16:32 < tcr> nah 16:34 < tcr> nevermind, i don't intend to use perl .. i'll give it a try myself 16:40 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away 16:43 < fake> https://www.rocklinux.org/sources/scripts/Check-PkgVersion 16:47 < snyke> moo 16:48 < snyke> this... is a fake! 16:48 < snyke> hi fake! 16:48 < snyke> fake: https://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2071616978 <-- ROOOOFL 16:48 < snyke> read the descrition properly... rofl 16:48 < snyke> and then watch the price.. roflllll 16:53 < fake> *rofl* 17:15 -!- owl [~mail-spam@p50802BCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 < owl> re 17:15 < Lorini> re 17:15 < Mike1> moin owly 17:15 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 17:15 < owl> hi Lorini, Mike1 17:16 < Mike1> hi Lorini 17:16 < Lorini> hi Mike1 17:17 < owl> *yawning* 17:21 < owl> reboot 17:21 -!- owl [~mail-spam@p50802BCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 17:36 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW 17:38 -!- temr [~pm@pD958BA5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 17:40 < temr> hoi 17:40 < tcr> ahoi 17:40 -!- clifford_away [~clifford@M088P014.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:50 -!- Ge0rG [a@club-mate.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:51 < tcr> huebi: ! 17:52 < fake> ! : ibeuh 17:53 < tcr> if you haven't anything to do, please jumpt out of the window! :P 17:57 < Mike1> e 17:57 < Mike1> k 17:57 < Mike1> a 17:57 < Mike1> f 17:59 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:04 < tcr> Mike1: huah 18:04 < Mike1> hi tcr 18:05 < tcr> Mike1: i think you know, in the current cvs version the format of the pkg file has been changed 18:05 < tcr> var/adm/package/$pkg 18:05 < Mike1> tcr: 1.5 or 1.7? 18:05 -!- clifford [~clifford@M082P007.dipool.highway.telekom.at] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 < Mike1> re clifford 18:06 < tcr> well 1.7 anyway -- but 1.5 early since 1.5.20 18:06 < clifford> hi again. 18:06 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has joined #rocklinux 18:06 < armijn> re 18:06 < clifford> It's now possible to build with -Os (e.g. for 'bootdisk' target) 18:06 < tcr> re cliff; hi armijn 18:07 < clifford> hi armijn 18:07 < tcr> Mike1: what i wanna say is that the pkg-list script is *still* the same 18:07 < Mike1> mom brb 18:07 -!- owl [~mail-spam@p50802BCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:07 < owl> re 18:08 < owl> muhahahahahaha! what a idiot! i can't stop laughing! 18:08 * armijn hugs owl 18:08 < armijn> ha! didn't see that one coming! 18:08 < owl> hi armijn 18:08 < armijn> hi clifford,tcr,mike1 18:08 < armijn> hi owl 18:09 < armijn> sigh, great, lots of stuff to finish, and promoting Linux tomorrow at the largest computerfare in western europe... 18:11 < tcr> Mike1: my modified version: 18:11 < tcr> #!/bin/bash 18:11 < tcr> grep 'Package Name and Version: ' /var/adm/packages/* | cut -f5- -d' ' 18:11 < tcr> while read line; do 18:11 < tcr> if [ -z "${line/Package Name*: /}" ]; then 18:11 < tcr> echo -n "${line/Package Name*: /} " 18:11 < tcr> else 18:11 < tcr> echo "${line/Package Version*: /}" 18:11 < tcr> fi 18:11 < tcr> done < <( egrep -h '(Package Name[ ]*|Package Version)' /var/adm/packages/* 18:11 < tcr> ) 18:12 < tcr> the last line again: done < <( egrep -h '(Package Name[ ]*:|Package Version)' /var/adm/packages/*) 18:13 < armijn> ah well, I can always decide to install w2k pro in finnish... 18:13 < armijn> should be fun 18:15 < armijn> or should I install the norwegian version? 18:15 < armijn> or the danish one? 18:15 -!- clifford is now known as clifford_away 18:17 < armijn> ha, at least I chased clifford away with it! 18:19 -!- owl [~mail-spam@p50802BCB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 18:22 -!- armijn [~armijn@losser.st-lab.cs.uu.nl] has left #rocklinux () 18:22 < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi 18:25 < Mike1> re 18:26 < Mike1> tcr: ok is that fix for 1.5? 18:26 < Mike1> i am not sure of what you are telling me 18:27 < tcr> yes, something like. I dunno if this is the most perfect variant, but at elast it works for me 18:29 * Mike1 grabbing latest cvs ... 18:29 < tcr> according to changelog the last entry was at 11-13 18:30 < Mike1> that was me .. 18:30 < tcr> right 18:30 < Mike1> and no you dont have the latest cvs the last change was 11-18 18:30 < Mike1> also me :) 18:31 < Mike1> spect lots of fixes today btw 18:31 < tcr> hm, could you pleae update procps? 18:31 < Mike1> tcr: yes that is on my TODO list for today 18:33 < Mike1> tcr: what change do you see in the package format of 1.5 btw 18:33 < Mike1> i do not remeber huebi doing such thing and i have certainly not made it 18:34 < tcr> before: Package Name and Version: $pkgname $pkgver $rockver 18:34 < tcr> now: Package Name: $pkgname 18:34 < tcr> Package Version: $pkgver $rockver 18:35 < Mike1> ah :) yeah 18:36 < Mike1> may i have a copy of your pkg-list script? 18:36 < Mike1> i wanna have close look to your changes 18:36 < tcr> email @addr? 18:39 < tcr> th_: PING 18:40 < Mike1> tcr: guess? 18:40 < Mike1> mike@rocklinux.org :) 18:40 < tcr> Miguel A. Bolanos 18:40 < tcr> wrote to it now 18:40 < Mike1> tcr: its ok as well 18:41 -!- blindcod1r [~blindcode@pD958FD05.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:41 < Mike1> though i would prefer rock patches and fixes for 1.5 sent to my rocklinux.org addy :) 18:41 < Mike1> blindito :) 18:42 < th_> tcr: ack? 18:43 < tcr> th_: https://freshmeat.net/redir/windowmaker/11541/url_bz2/WindowMaker-0.80.2.tar.bz2 18:43 < th_> tcr: what about it? 18:44 < tcr> rock uses 0.80.0, and you're mentioned as maintainer ... 18:44 < th_> tcr: could you send me a mail for this please? 18:45 * Mike1 wonders if th still will / want to maintain his 1.5 packages 18:45 < tcr> with what content? 18:45 < Mike1> hi th_ btw 18:46 -!- Ge0rG [georg@club-mate.net] has quit ("Lost terminal") 18:46 < tcr> Mike1: hmm what I found out: /var/adm/termcap exists, but there is no pkg in the current cvs sources 18:46 < tcr> Mike1: The same is with lprng 18:47 < th_> Mike1: just a problem of time 18:47 < Mike1> th ok 18:47 < th_> tcr: with "please update wmaker or just apply this patch ..." 18:47 < th_> away now... 18:47 < th_> *detach* 18:47 < tcr> sorry, I'm not a windowmaker user, just saw that on frshmeat 18:47 < tcr> but will write a msg 18:48 -!- blindcoder [~blindcode@p50801106.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:50 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 18:50 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 19:00 -!- bluefire [bluefire@p50817D1A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:00 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:01 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:01 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD904859B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:02 < capchaos> hi 19:19 < esden> hi all 19:21 < Mike1> hi capy and esdy 19:22 < Mike1> th_: i will update wmaker if you like 19:28 < tcr> Mike1: is it possible to determine a snapshot version or something in the sources? 19:28 < tcr> $SRCDIR/VERSION is too unexact 19:28 < tcr> i need the date and time when the fetch was 19:29 -!- tcr changed the topic of #rocklinux to: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7you know about? 19:29 -!- ChanServ changed the topic of #rocklinux to: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7 19:29 < Mike1> tcr: let me think about an option 19:29 < tcr> arghs, i hate xchat and its setting of the focus 19:30 < tcr> i'm not familiar to cvs 19:30 < Mike1> tcr: though all the 1.5 snaps pkg versions are on the mirrors atm 19:30 -!- Ge0rG [a@club-mate.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:30 < Mike1> tcr: be back in a while i need some food or i will die 19:31 < tcr> ok 19:33 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD904859B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("There is no spoon.") 19:37 -!- blindcod1r is now known as blindcoder 19:43 < th_> Mike1: would be great 19:48 < tcr> hmm... I want to send some emails locally, i.e. just via writing into the /var/spool/mail/$USER files. I wonder why mail(x) isn't able to do this... I actually don't want to set up a MTA for this 19:50 < th_> tcr: mail should do fine. 19:51 < tcr> echo test | mail -s "a test" $USER 19:51 < tcr> /usr/sbin/sendmail: No such file or directory 19:52 -!- man_ [~Alx@213.233.126.130] has joined #rocklinux 19:52 < th_> tcr: ls -l `which mail` 19:52 < man_> Hello. 19:52 < th_> hi man 19:53 < man_> Where is a reliable, up-to-date SRPMs source? 19:53 < th_> man_: wrong channel for that question 19:53 < man_> still, an ideea.. 19:53 < tcr> th_ -rwxr-xr-x 19:54 < th_> tcr: so it's no link. 19:54 < tcr> nope 19:54 < man_> I'm trying to build rock or gentoo on my Peanut UMSOS install. 19:55 < man_> Should I bother starting to document myself? 19:56 < th_> tcr: mail is trying to connect to local smtp 19:57 < th_> it's using sendmail 19:57 < th_> :-/ 19:57 < th_> Nov 21 19:56:32 ws3 sendmail[476]: gALIuWnx000476: to=th, ctladdr=root (0/0), de 19:57 < th_> lay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, pri=30024, relay=localhost [127.0.0 19:57 < th_> .1], dsn=4.0.0, stat=Deferred: Connection refused by localhost 19:57 < man_> So, I allready upset everybody? 19:57 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5040.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 < owl> re 19:58 < blindcoder> re owly 19:58 < blindcoder> how's your date been? 19:58 < owl> hi blindy 19:58 < owl> i had no date 19:58 < th_> hi owl 19:58 < owl> hi th_ 19:58 < th_> man_: there was no question 19:58 < blindcoder> owl: yes, you had! 19:58 < owl> blindcoder: NO! 19:58 < blindcoder> owl: YES 19:58 < owl> but i will become member of "bingo" 19:58 < blindcoder> well, that's not my fault, is it? 19:59 < owl> nope :) 19:59 < blindcoder> hehe ;) 20:00 < tcr> th_: Hmm. I'm having a look into the sources. "Their were times where men were men, and wrote their own..." ;) 20:16 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has joined #rocklinux 20:24 -!- esden [weasel@apollo.bingo-ev.de] has joined #rocklinux 20:24 -!- Topic for #rocklinux: CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d anoncvs@anoncvs.rocklinux.de:/cvs co -P rock-1.5 && cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@clifford.homedns.org:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7 20:24 -!- Topic set by ChanServ [Thu Nov 21 19:29:37 2002] 20:24 (Users #rocklinux) 20:24 [ [anders] ] [ clifford_away] [ huebi ] [ mayan ] [ rolla] [ temr ] 20:24 [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ ichilton] [ Mike1 ] [ rxr_ ] [ th_ ] 20:24 [ blindcoder] [ fake ] [ kasc_ ] [ owl ] [ simon] [ zer0_o^] 20:24 [ bluefire ] [ Freak ] [ litost ] [ Parabull] [ SMP ] 20:24 [ capone ] [ Ge0rG ] [ LoriAW ] [ praenti ] [ snyke] 20:24 [ chrisMAMPF] [ hackbard ] [ man_ ] [ ringo30 ] [ tcr ] 20:24 -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 33 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 33 normal] 20:24 -!- Channel #rocklinux created Tue Jun 11 09:27:41 2002 20:24 -!- Irssi: Join to #rocklinux was synced in 10 secs 20:28 < Mike1> re all 20:29 < Mike1> man_: anything you need / want to know about building rock? 20:30 < owl> wb Mike1 20:30 < blindcoder> hi Mike1 20:32 < Mike1> oy owl und blindcoder 20:32 < Mike1> ok /me troubleshooting a server 20:32 < Mike1> err should i say shooting w2k? 20:33 < owl> *lol* yep. sounds better :) 20:34 * Mike1 dont trouble shoot his linux boxes only w2k boxes 20:34 < Mike1> Linux never fails :)) 20:35 < Mike1> if they fail.. its a hardware problem 20:36 < blindcoder> Layer 8 fails also quite often 20:36 < owl> oh oh... the user... ;P 20:36 < Mike1> lol 20:37 * blindcoder failing, too 20:37 < blindcoder> hmm... I beught 200 CD-R last SAturday... 50 are already gone... 20:38 * owl takes a fat book and "haut es" blindy "um die ohren" 20:38 < blindcoder> YES! HARDER! MY HAED IS STILL ON MY SHOULDERS! 20:38 < owl> ... 20:38 < blindcoder> :) 20:39 -!- Ge0rG [a@club-mate.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:44 -!- chrisMAM1F [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba482e.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:55 < esden> yooo the lego mindstorms connect4 robot works !!! 20:55 < esden> *jumparound* 20:55 < owl> hi esden. congrats. 20:56 < esden> thanks owl ;-) 20:56 < blindcoder> good 20:56 < owl> esden: buedde 20:56 -!- man_ [~Alx@213.233.126.130] has quit () 20:59 < blindcoder> "You've come a long way to die tonight" 21:01 < blindcoder> "My life is good. I know it's good. And all I achieve is this PAIN!" 21:01 < blindcoder> "You've come a long way to die tonight" 21:01 < blindcoder> "Those broken wings wake a lonely sight." 21:01 < blindcoder> "You've come a long way to die." 21:01 < blindcoder> "And all because you thought you'd had..." 21:02 < owl> blindcoder: don't be so pessimistic, please. (of listen to such music or see such movies...) 21:03 < blindcoder> owl: You should listen to it. You'd like it. 21:03 < owl> blindcoder: why? is it gothic or metal? 21:04 < blindcoder> neither. But I'm sure you'd like it. I have them on CD (mp3) I'll bring it along tomorrow. 21:04 < owl> well. sounds good. thx ;) 21:04 < capone> hi 21:04 < owl> hi capone 21:05 -!- chrisMAMPF [~chrisime@mnch-d9ba4dcf.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:05 < blindcoder> re capone 21:06 < blindcoder> "If I go crazy then will you still call me Superman?!" *sing* 21:08 -!- tsa [~tsa@pD9525054.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:08 < tsa> tag 21:08 < blindcoder> abend 21:08 < tsa> moin blindcoder 21:08 < owl> hi tsa 21:10 < capone> hi tsa 21:10 < tsa> hi owl 21:10 < tsa> hi capone 21:14 * blindcoder going to bed. good n8 21:15 < capone> sleep fine blindcoder 21:17 < tsa> cu blindcoder 21:20 < tcr> tsa: maybe you know why there doesn't exist the ctags command, though it should be deliviered with vim 21:30 < tsa> hm...don't know. 21:41 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048450.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:41 < capone> capchaos 21:41 < Mike1> Hola tsa 21:41 < tsa> hi Mike1 21:41 < capone> Mike1 21:42 < Mike1> hi capone und capchaos 21:42 < capchaos> hi capone, hi Mike1, hi tsa 21:42 * capchaos running lfs now, it's fast as hell even w/o optimisation 21:42 * capchaos yet haven't tried rock 1.7 21:43 < Mike1> capchaos: try OpenBSD :) 21:43 < capchaos> why OpenBSD ? 21:43 < capone> ( #rocklinux || #openbsd ) 21:43 < Mike1> its pretty cool 21:43 < Mike1> and its secure and stable as hell :) 21:44 < capchaos> yes, i believe you. but i can't get ISDN running under OpenBSD. 21:44 < capchaos> they have stopped support on isdn 21:46 < capchaos> Mike1: have you tried NetBSD ? 21:46 < owl> COFFEE!!! god, that's so great... 21:46 < Mike1> capchaos: once 21:46 < capchaos> owl: me wants to, but doesn't have any ;( 21:46 < Mike1> why? 21:46 < owl> *ggg* 21:47 * owl enjoys a _large_ cup of black coffee 21:47 < capchaos> NetBSD is said to be stable and clean, too. 21:47 < capchaos> owl: *grml* 21:47 < capchaos> and NetBSD has ISDN support. 21:47 < owl> *gggg* 21:48 < capchaos> Yet, i want to have a pure GNU system and the Linux kernel running on my desktop. However my server will get a BSD, maybe :) 21:49 < owl> capchaos: a freebsd-dev (who also develops for netbsd) said once to me, that openbsd often uses code from netbsd - just a bit later than it's released in netbsd... 21:50 < capchaos> owl: Yes, cuz OpenBSD is split from NetBSD. And security needs the code to proof secure, by the time. 21:50 < tcr> theobsd 21:51 < owl> i c. 21:51 < capchaos> owl: and AFAIK NetBSD enjoys a much bigger dev community. 21:51 < capchaos> tcr: hehh ;) 21:51 < Mike1> anyways ROCK rulez 21:53 < capone> where is 'wtf' included ? 21:53 < capone> and makewhatis ? 21:53 < capone> which package ? 21:54 * Mike1 doesnt make any furter comments 21:54 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813176.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:55 < capone> bah .. /me having a look at rock-src :-/ 21:55 < capone> hi thalerim 21:56 < Mike1> re thaly 21:56 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812FBB.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: thalerim!~tobrit@p50813176.dip.t-dialin.net))) 21:56 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 22:05 -!- ringo30 [ringo78@xs4.xs4all.nl] has quit ("leaving") 22:06 * Mike1 updating packages for 1.5 tree... cheers tcr 22:08 < th_> 21.11.2002-19:22 #rocklinux: < Mike1> th_: i will update wmaker if you like 22:08 < th_> Mike1: don't hesitate 22:09 < esden> n8 -> party ;-) 22:09 < Mike1> esden: jumas!! 22:14 < Mike1> th_: ok cool, may i do the same if i found more of your packages on the way of my update? 22:15 < th_> Mike1: yes but inform me about changes please. 22:15 -!- temr [~pm@pD958BA5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("n8") 22:16 < Mike1> th_: everything is on the changelog anyways 22:17 < th_> Mike1: yes but i don't read it 22:18 < Mike1> th_: ok ich will inform you then 22:18 < Mike1> th_: you dont maintain any base packages do you ? 22:19 < tcr> Mike1: https://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/changelog?rev=1.628&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup says still last change was made on 11-13 22:19 < tcr> ??? 22:19 < Mike1> tcr: here is my changelog: 22:19 < Mike1> 2002-11-18 15:32 mike 22:19 < Mike1> * rock-1.5/ext-config/mplayer/mplayer.ext: Fixed cksum errors 22:19 -!- martin_ [~martin@performer.tfh-berlin.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:20 < martin_> hi all 22:20 < capchaos> hi martin_ 22:20 < Mike1> checked out earlier this mourning 22:20 < capchaos> and gn8 22:20 < Mike1> oyasumi nasai capchaos 22:20 < capone> cya capchaos 22:20 < martin_> hi capchaos 22:20 < owl> hi martin_ 22:20 < tcr> Mike1: but why is the webfrontend dated? 22:21 < martin_> hi owl 22:21 < Mike1> SMP: ? 22:21 < Mike1> tcr: dunno 22:24 < Mike1> tcr: you asked me to update procinfo right? 22:25 < tcr> procps 22:25 < Mike1> ah yeah :) 22:26 < Mike1> ok updated to 3.1.1 22:26 < Mike1> will commit in a while 22:30 -!- capchaos [~capchaos@pD9048450.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 22:30 < Mike1> anyone knows the new location for raidtools? 22:34 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD958D5ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:39 < thalerim> Mike1: already commited? 22:40 < Mike1> thalerim: mom 22:40 < Mike1> thalerim: you really are anxiously waiting arent you ? 22:41 < thalerim> i just want to test a script that i'm writing on 22:41 < Mike1> thalerim: ah ok 22:41 < Mike1> mom let me finish to fix base and opt then i commit 22:41 < martin_> hmm, gn8 22:42 < Mike1> nacht martin_ 22:42 -!- martin_ [~martin@performer.tfh-berlin.de] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 22:47 < thalerim> ..waiting.. 22:47 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813176.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Killed (NickServ (Ghost: thalerim!~tobrit@pD958D5ED.dip.t-dialin.net))) 22:47 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 22:48 < Mike1> tcr: just 5 more packages and i commit 22:49 < tcr> do so 22:53 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5040.pppool.de] has quit ("brb. changing computer") 22:55 * Mike1 already stressed by tcr begins first commit 22:55 < Mike1> :P jk 22:56 -!- owl [~mail-spam@B5040.pppool.de] has joined #rocklinux 22:56 < owl> re 22:56 < Mike1> re owlita 23:02 < Mike1> tcr: done 23:02 < tcr> thx 23:02 < Mike1> tcr: i am not finished yet but at procps is on this first commit 23:07 < tcr> ok, everything seems to work so far :) 23:07 < Mike1> tcr: mom i missed something i need to commit one little fix 23:08 < Mike1> ok commited 23:09 < tcr> fixed bug of what? 23:10 < Mike1> just a forgot to change sth on xfsprogs 23:11 < Mike1> texinfo now updated as well 23:12 < tcr> well, i'll just update procps .. 23:12 < Mike1> tcr: ok 23:12 < tcr> i'm not a pine user ;) 23:12 < Mike1> :) 23:13 < Mike1> brb 23:25 < capone> hi owl 23:26 -!- litost [~user@phynp6.phy-astr.gsu.edu] has quit ("school") 23:34 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D5ED.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sphos") 23:36 < SMP> *yawn* 23:38 < tsa> moin SMP 23:44 < owl> hi SMP 23:45 < capone> cial 23:45 -!- capone [~capone@208.165.55.133] has left #rocklinux () 23:49 < Mike1> hi master SMP --- Log closed Fri Nov 22 00:00:50 2002