-!- Irrsi Log opened Mon Nov 25 00:00:24 2002
-!- Irrsi Day changed Mon Nov 25 2002
[00:00] < owl> hm. and "intel speedstep" (pentium 4) would be also great to know how to set and so on...
[00:00] < aszlig> re
[00:00] < aszlig> was kicked out..
[00:00] < owl> *set cpufreq and so on, i mean
[00:00] < owl> hm.
[00:01] < aszlig> owl: oh, erm, without sleep states..
[00:01] < owl> aszlig: hm. bad
[00:14] < esden> n8
[00:15] esden -> bed
[00:15] < owl> gn8 esden
[00:18] < aszlig> n8 esden
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[01:32] < akira> re
[01:33] < akira> someone awake with explicit devfs skills? :)
[01:33] < owl> akira: ja. na ja.
[01:34] < owl> akira: was willste wissen. frag' einfach. vielleicht noch jemand wach && skilled genuch
[01:34] < akira> hehe
[01:34] < akira> also, ich hab 2 probleme (grafik laeuft erstmal wieder)
[01:34] < owl> hm. ja.. und weiter?
[01:34] < akira> 1. (wichtiger) ich habin meinem /dev/scsi keine host* eintraege
[01:34] < akira> 2. sound laeuft noch nich
[01:35] < owl> hm. scsi kenne ich mich nicht wirklich mit aus... sorry
[01:35] < owl> 2. sound - was läuft ned?
[01:35] < akira> sound
[01:35] < akira> ton .. es toenet nicht
[01:35] < akira> :)
[01:36] < owl> akira: ach so. ich dachte schon der sound ginge nicht
[01:36] < akira> :)
[01:36] < akira> ich krieg genausowenig entries im /dev/sound wie im /dev/scsi
[01:36] < owl> hmmmm...
[01:36] < owl> hast du alsa?
[01:36] < akira> nein
[01:36] < owl> OSS?
[01:36] < akira> moecht ich auch vermeiden ehrlich gesagt
[01:36] < akira> ja
[01:37] < akira> die normalen linuxkernel treiber fuer die emu10k1
[01:37] < owl> hm. modprobe?
[01:37] < akira> funktioniert
[01:37] < akira> vor devs hat auch alles getoent
[01:38] < owl> aeh. *hust* ja. mag sein,, dass es mit einer anderen distri lief.... hast du emul0kl als modul oder statisch?
[01:38] < akira> modul
[01:38] < owl> modprobe modulname
[01:38] < owl> scon mal ausprobiert?
[01:38] < akira> ist drinnen
[01:38] < owl> hm.
[01:38] < akira> genauso wie die scsi module
[01:39] < akira> aber nix im /dev/* angezeigt
[01:39] < owl> hmmmm...
[01:39] < akira> ich kann mit scsidev eintraege im /dev/scsi erzeugen .. aber das ist scheisse und inkosistent .. wozu hab ich denn devfsd
[01:40] < owl> hmmm... sorry. kann ich dir auch ned weiterhelfen.
[01:41] < akira> dank dir
[01:41] < owl> aeh. fuer was?
[01:41] < akira> ich verstehs echt nicht ...
[01:41] < akira> owl: fuers kurze zuhoeren
[01:43] < owl> akira: ich auch ned. egal. machste des system eben platt. und kiffst oder saeufst dich weg oder so. hat eh mehr sinn
[01:44] owl headbangt zu: crematory - wounds
[01:45] < akira> aha
[01:45] akira schalted tool wieder ein
[01:45] < owl> akira: huh? tool???
[01:45] < akira> na sicher
[01:45] < akira> seh ich aus wie ... weiss auch nich? :)
[01:45] < owl> wtf is "tool"? habe ich was verpasst
[01:46] < akira> www.toolband.com
[01:47] < owl> muhahahaha! "THE END IS NEAR..." << klingt gut :)
[01:47] < owl> welche musik? gothic, metal...???
[01:47] < akira> limewire dirs
[01:48] < akira> oder geh zu www.laut.de -> such dir tool raus, die haben hoerproben
[01:48] < owl> akira: urgs. noch mehr leechen? mit isdn... *hust* ned wirklihc...
[01:49] < owl> negativitaet. was gutes... ;)))
[01:50] < akira> owl: du hast was verpasst wenn du tool nicht kennst oder nicht kennenlernen willst
[01:51] < owl> akira: nicht kennenlernen wollen - *lol* daran liegt's ned. aber ich muss noch einiges leechen... na ja.
[01:52] < akira> das ist alles unwichtig
[01:53] < akira> https://www.laut.de/lautstark/cd-reviews/t/tool/lateralus/index.htm
[01:53] < owl> akira: muhahaha! ah ja. was ist dann wichtig?
[01:53] < akira> tool
[01:53] < akira> ?
[01:54] < owl> ah ja... glaube mir, es gibt wichtigeres. (mir faellt da spontan ein: notebook && linux fsken,
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[02:49] < ak|ra> hello
[02:49] < owl> huh? ak|ra again?
[02:49] < owl> rehi
[02:50] < ak|ra> of coz
[02:50] < ak|ra> the prblem isnt gone
[02:50] < owl> ak|ra: the people understanding devfs are not awake, too, i guess
[02:59] < owl> ak|ra: https://mirrors.kernel.org/LDP/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/categories.html << wenn du's noch ned gewusst hast
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[07:57] < blindcoder> moin
[08:05] < Lorini> moin
[08:05] < Lorini> und bye :)
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[08:16] < blindcoder> moin paperclip
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[09:47] < owl> good morning
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[10:16] < blindcoder> moin
[10:17] < blindcoder> I hate SIEMENS >_<
[10:24] < owl> hi blindcoder
[10:27] < owl> why r u hating siemens? if you don't want the money you get from then, you can send it to my account at "stadtsparkasse" thank you in advance
[10:28] < blindcoder> owl: I don't get my money from SIEMENS, so I may hate them :P
[10:29] < owl> blindcoder: ah so. i forgot... external..
[10:29] < blindcoder> jepp :)
[10:30] < blindcoder> tht simple fact also saves me from numerous leaflets that currently get handed out to employees
[10:30] < owl> haha ;P
[10:31] < owl> which leaflets? "you right is - aeh. - you have no rights" - leaflet of employees who r working at siemens?
[10:32] < blindcoder> something like that... It's about the layoffs currently happening at ICN
[10:33] < owl> urgs. that really suckz
[10:34] < blindcoder> Well... it doesn't affect me directly since the contract of my employer is with SBS :D
[10:34] < owl> ;)
[10:36] < owl> but firing employees = shit
[10:37] < blindcoder> sure... but I don't really knoy details... just Rumors, hearsay and speculatiens
[10:37] < blindcoder> and I can't type anymore again
[10:38] < owl> hm.
[10:39] owl needs more cappuccino! CAFFEEINE!
[10:40] < blindcoder> Please decide: Cappu or Caffeine?
[10:52] < owl> cappu with caffeine inside
[10:53] < blindcoder> so you throw some coffies into it?
[11:08] < blindcoder> urks... even the DNS-Servers here suck
[11:09] < blindcoder> https://intranet.icn.siemens.de.
[11:09] < blindcoder> Unable to determine IP address from host name for intranet.icn.siemens.de
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[11:21] < blindcoder> moin hackbard
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[11:25] < akira_> moin
[11:25] < akira_> hallo th_
[11:29] < aszlig> blindcoder: uff...
[11:29] < aszlig> blindcoder: wtf has konfigured the dns?
[11:30] < aszlig> blindcoder: a wonder if it finds siemens.de *gg*
[11:31] < aszlig> blindcoder: oh.. but axfr's are disallowed ;)
[11:31] < blindcoder> aszlig: hi. axfr's?
[11:31] < blindcoder> hi akira
[11:31] < akira_> hei blindcoder
[11:32] < akira_> blindcoder: devfsguru? :)
[11:32] < blindcoder> akira_: Guru waere zuviel gesagt... worum gehts?
[11:32] < akira_> hehe
[11:33] < akira_> ok, ich hab jetzt devfs zum laufen gekriegt, aber nur, da ich sowohl scsi als auch usb hart in den kernel compiliert habe, was ich eigentlich vermeiden wollte
[11:33] blindcoder hates commenting/documenting/cleaning up code. Who cares anyway? it works...
[11:33] < blindcoder> akira_: welche kernel-version?
[11:33] < akira_> problem war gestern / heute nacht / heute frueh :) dass er kein /dev/scsi und kein /dev/usb beim modproben der scsi / usb-storage module angelegt hat
[11:34] < akira_> ich wuerde jetzt gerne wissen wieso -> kernel 2.4.19
[11:34] < akira_> neuestes devfs
[11:34] < akira_> neuestes devfsd
[11:35] < blindcoder> hmm... ich hab nie probiert scsi als Modul zu betreiben... und USB hab ich bis heute noch kein einziges Gereat gehabt...
[11:35] < akira_> achja, sound wurde auch nicht beim modprobe angelegt
[11:35] < blindcoder> aber fuer mich klingt das noch nem bug in denentsprechenden modulen
[11:35] < akira_> NVdriver hingegen haben ihren eintrag bekommen
[11:35] < blindcoder> hmm.. sound ging bei mir... warte mal eben
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[11:36] < akira_> der grund, warum ich dann den kram hartcompiliert habe war der, dass das ide-interface im devfs vollstaendig erkannt wurde -> und der ide kram war schon hartcompiliertdrinnen
[11:42] < blindcoder> hmm... hast du alle noetigen SCSI-Module geladen? scsi-Karte, Scsi-generic und scsi-(cdrom|tape|disc)?
[11:42] < akira_> ja
[11:42] < akira_> eigentlich schon
[11:42] < akira_> in der /etc/modules.devfs ist ja scsi_hostadapter deklariert
[11:43] < blindcoder> mhm
[11:43] < akira_> und in /etc/modules.conf hab ich dann ein probeall scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx gemacht
[11:43] < blindcoder> hast du noch nen lsmod ausdruck rumliegen?
[11:43] < akira_> was zum laden aller benoetigten scsi module gefuehrt hat
[11:43] < akira_> blindcoder: immo nich, bin froh das das jtzt laeuft
[11:43] < blindcoder> sowie den output der modprobes?
[11:43] < akira_> hat mir den ganzen gestrigen abend und die nacht versaut
[11:44] < blindcoder> glaub ich dir :)
[11:44] < akira_> blindcoder: das alle mods richtig geladen waren sah ich daran, dass ich mit scsidev genau die alten eintraege in /dev/scsi erzeugen konnte und die hardware auch 1:1 ansprechen konnt
[11:45] < blindcoder> du wolltest die Module also automatisch laden lassen wenn du sie brauchst und danach wieder entladen?
[11:46] < akira_> neinjasoinderart
[11:46] < blindcoder> brb, Kollege schreit
[11:46] < akira_> ok
[11:54] < blindcoder> einmal mit Profis arbeiten *seufz*
[11:54] < akira_> hehe :)
[11:55] akira_ is keiner
[11:55] < akira_> ich _muss_ immer mit th_ arbeiten :)) *g*
[11:56] < akira_> naja, kram laeuft jezt, wahrschenlich lass ich das dann einfach so
[11:56] < akira_> soll ich noch nen extra eintrag fuer /dev/zip anlegen?
[12:00] < blindcoder> solange du keine programme startest die das brauchen wuerd ichs lassen
[12:00] < akira_> mh jo
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[12:24] < akira_> blindcoder: aber irgendwie waere ein /dev/cdroms/0 irgendwie auch fuer zip logisch oder?
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[12:27] < blindcoder> hmm... wieviele zips hast du dunn in deinem Recner? Ich habe ein zip anstelle eines floppys, aber sonst...
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[14:05] < temr> moin
[14:22] < blindcoder> moin
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[14:30] < capchaos> hi rockers
[14:31] fake going nuts
[14:31] < blindcoder> hi cappy
[14:31] < fake> damn it!
[14:31] < blindcoder> fake: what's up?
[14:31] < fake> i try to write a script
[14:31] < blindcoder> I see
[14:31] < fake> that shows Xdialog --yesno box
[14:32] < blindcoder> yes...
[14:32] < fake> with a timeout.
[14:32] < blindcoder> hmm... yes...
[14:32] < fake> but i can't do a simple Xdialog &
[14:32] < blindcoder> patch Xdialog
[14:32] < fake> because then i'd loos the return code
[14:32] < fake> that is not an option
[14:33] < blindcoder> hmm... doesn't Xdialog output something to STDOUT like dialog does?
[14:33] < esden> hi all
[14:33] < blindcoder> or STDERR that is
[14:33] < fake> not the --yesno option
[14:33] < blindcoder> hi esden
[14:33] < blindcoder> well, then you have to patch Xdialog and add --timeout
[14:34] < blindcoder> btw: won't be on the train today
[14:34] < fake> as is said, that is not an option!
[14:34] < blindcoder> finally found a solution how to do the GL-dm
[14:34] < fake> i _have_ to use the standard
[14:34] < blindcoder> oh, I thought that is for the Xdialog &
[14:35] < fake> huh?
[14:35] < blindcoder> fake: write a shell-script that invokes Xdialog, catches the return-code and outputs it into a file
[14:35] < fake> okay.
[14:35] < fake> i did that.
[14:35] < blindcoder> and?
[14:35] < esden> here are images of my connect 4 robot : https://wwwbrauer.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/lehre/lego/tagderoffenentum/4gewinnt/4gewinnt.shtml
[14:35] < fake> i have to kill the script after xx seconds (for the timeout)
[14:35] < fake> i get the script's PID by $!
[14:36] < blindcoder> fake write its $$ into a file
[14:36] < fake> if i kill the script, the Xdialog window stays open, because it uses '1' as PPID
[14:36] < blindcoder> or that way...
[14:36] < blindcoder> hmm...
[14:36] < fake> blindcoder: that is not the problem. i know the scripts PID.
[14:36] < fake> but i can't get Xdialog's pid if i don;t do a & after it
[14:36] < fake> and if i do that, i don't know how to catch it's return code
[14:37] < fake> because ABC=Xdialog & is always true
[14:38] < blindcoder> you could do something like `ps auux | grep Xdialog`
[14:38] < blindcoder> wait...
[14:38] < blindcoder> wouldn't Xdialogs PDI be the scripts PID+1 ?
[14:38] < blindcoder> s/PDI/PID/
[14:39] < blindcoder> esden: nice
[14:40] < blindcoder> fake: you would have to deal with PID-Wrap-around, though...
[14:40] < fake> blindcoder: i'd kill all Xdialogs with ps | grep
[14:41] < fake> and script+1 is a good guess, nothing more
[14:41] < blindcoder> but the ps aux | grep thingie should work as you know the _exact_ call for Xdialog
[14:41] < esden> blindcoder: thanks
[14:41] < fake> blindcoder: the calls never differ
[14:41] < fake> esden: sweet ;)
[14:41] < esden> hehe ;-)
[14:41] < esden> I have also a video at home
[14:41] < esden> I have to digitalize it
[14:41] < blindcoder> fake: damnit, write a patch and send it to the Xdialog maintainer :)
[14:42] < blindcoder> esden: yes, you have
[14:42] < fake> blindcoder: again, that-is-not-an-option-<dot>
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[14:42] < Mike1> moin
[14:42] < esden> hi Mike1
[14:42] < Mike1> hi esden, how are you today?
[14:43] < blindcoder> fake: I say, you can use the grep-thing. you know the complete call including _all_ parameters, so it should be possible.
[14:43] < blindcoder> You have a Xdialog --yesno 'tekt'
[14:43] < fake> blindcoder: think again. multi-user-system?
[14:43] < blindcoder> you know that tekt. maybe just put an ID-Text or something behind it
[14:43] < fake> pkill Xdialog --yesno 'text' would make 1 user happy and all the others grief.
[14:44] < fake> blindcoder: that would be exposed to the user
[14:44] < esden> Mike1: good thanks
[14:44] < fake> anyways, solaris ps only shows 64 chars of the process call
[14:44] < aszlig> rehi
[14:46] < blindcoder> fake: make ps just print your processes. should be ddone by omitting -e
[14:47] < blindcoder> that would narrow it done _very much_
[14:47] < blindcoder> and it's not omitting -e, my mistake
[14:49] < fake> blindcoder: all those Xdialog are mine
[14:49] < fake> it's a loginshell-replacement
[14:50] < blindcoder> hmm, okay, that make it a lot more difficult
[14:50] < blindcoder> I thought it's something like stone -x11
[14:51] < fake> where's the difference?
[14:51] < blindcoder> the difference is that with stone -x11 there would at most be... hmm... wait... actually there is none...
[14:51] < blindcoder> try ps -t pts/whatever
[14:52] < blindcoder> -t term
[14:52] < blindcoder> Lists only process data associated with term. Terminal
[14:52] < blindcoder> identifiers are specified as a device file name, and
[14:52] < blindcoder> an identifier. For example, term/a, or pts/0.
[14:52] < fake> actually, no:
[14:52] < fake> Syntax: ps [ -aAdeflcjLPy ] [ -o Format ] [ -t Bedingungsliste]
[14:52] < fake> [ -u userlist ] [ -U userlist ] [ -G grouplist ]
[14:52] < fake> [ -p proclist ] [ -g pgrplist ] [ -s sidlist ]
[14:52] < fake> 'format' ist eines oder mehrere der folgenden Formate:
[14:52] < fake> user ruser group rgroup uid ruid gid rgid pid ppid pgid sid taskid
[14:52] < fake> pri opri pcpu pmem vsz rss osz nice class time etime stime
[14:52] < fake> f s c lwp nlwp psr tty addr wchan fname comm args projid project
[14:53] < fake> and no, Xdialog does not keep bash's PPID
[14:53] < blindcoder> yes, you already mentioned that
[14:53] < blindcoder> what system are you on, anyway?
[14:53] < fake> that would have made things easy *sigh*
[14:53] < fake> SunOS nachtfalter 5.8 Generic_108528-13 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraAX-i2
[14:54] < blindcoder> SunOS sundance 5.8 Generic_108528-13 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-5_10
[14:54] < blindcoder> strange
[14:54] < fake> blindcoder: yeah, i have that in my manpage, too
[14:56] < fake> and it works
[14:56] < fake> is one rlogin always assigned exactly one pts?
[14:56] < fake> ans what about ssh ?
[14:57] Mike1 thinking on a desig for a rock hat ...
[14:57] < Mike1> desing even
[14:57] < blindcoder> one rlogin should be assigned one pts... if not for screen
[14:57] < Mike1> arrg
[14:57] < fake> no screen
[14:57] < blindcoder> ssh is the same
[14:57] < fake> i'll try that
[14:58] < blindcoder> fake: looks like a translation error :)
[14:58] < blindcoder> brb
[15:01] < blindcoder> back
[15:04] < blindcoder> hmmm should I answer him or should I not
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[15:08] < blindcoder> Mike1: don't forget tho propeller on that hat!
[15:08] < Mike1> blindcoder: of course not :)
[15:08] < blindcoder> Mike1: sweet. Will they be ready for 19C3? Will they? Will they? Will they?
[15:09] < Mike1> ack
[15:09] < blindcoder> YAHOOOO! *jumplikethekidheis*
[15:15] < fake> *shakes head*
[15:16] < esden> ha it seems that I have found the apropriate patch for my laptop framebuffer ;-)
[15:16] esden -> testing
[15:17] < blindcoder> fake: still not working?
[15:17] blindcoder now seriously thinking about starting `X-Com: Apocalypse` Clone
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[15:20] < Mike1> re capy
[15:21] < fake> blindcoder: i found another solution
[15:21] < fake> Xdialog... &
[15:21] < capchaos> hey mikey :)
[15:21] < fake> ...
[15:21] < fake> wait $!
[15:21] < fake> wait then returns the returnvalue
[15:21] < fake> and i can save the pid of xdialog away between Xdialog & and the wait
[15:22] < rolla_> re
[15:22] < blindcoder> good
[15:24] < fake> (and because of job-control, the ppid will be bash's, so it will be killed if i kill the subshell, anyways.
[15:24] < Mike1> re rolla_
[15:24] < fake> hi rolla_ !
[15:25] < blindcoder> d|ouh! edonkey isn't what it used to be >_<
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[15:26] < fake> nah, strike out my last sentence.
[15:27] < blindcoder> some bozo renamed his `Martian Successor Nadesico' Collectien to 'Enterprise_Season_02_Episode_03' through Episode_29 and my mldonkey took it over as the DL-Name for my Nadeesico_Files >_<
[15:28] < blindcoder> so now I have to manually rename each and every file >_<
[15:28] Mike1 guesses it might be a _LONG_ day for blindcoder ...
[15:30] < blindcoder> hehe :)
[15:30] < blindcoder> well... 26 Eps, 20 minutes each...
[15:31] < fake> 20 minutes to rename one file?
[15:32] < blindcoder> to watch it, rename it and archive it of course :)
[15:33] < esden> ok ... now it works much better ... but it is not perfect ... :-/
[15:34] < blindcoder> https://www.clustermatic.org/pipermail/linuxbios/2002-November/001186.html
[15:34] < blindcoder> sweet
[15:34] blindcoder thinks about flushing his BIOS :)
[15:35] < Mike1> cool
[15:35] < esden> woot !!!
[15:35] < esden> blindcoder: *hug*
[15:36] < esden> we are free !!! ;-)
[15:36] < blindcoder> :-)
[15:37] blindcoder thinking about a ROX-Filer package
[15:39] < blindcoder> esden: please draw a coin: As I have now a good chonce of finishing the gldm, what should be done next?
[15:40] < blindcoder> esden: The OpenGL File System Browser
[15:40] < blindcoder> esden: or a multiplayer capable clone of X-Com: Apocalypse?
[15:42] < fake> the first one
[15:42] < fake> but there are already implementations for that
[15:42] < blindcoder> mkay
[15:42] < blindcoder> fake: there are? where?
[15:44] < fake> https://turma.sourceforge.net/software/3dfile/
[15:47] < esden> blindcoder: have you created screenshots ?
[15:47] < esden> of gldm ?
[15:49] esden is asking himself if one can run opengl apps on framebuffer ...
[15:49] esden has to get his frame buffer running on his laptop to create the lain boot feeling ... >_<
[15:50] < fake> checking if you have guts... no. Too bad!
[15:50] < fake> checking for sense of humor... yes. Excelent!
[15:50] < fake> *rofl*
[15:51] < esden> *lol*
[15:51] < blindcoder> I have that idea worked eut and integrated into the code from work
[15:51] < blindcoder> no way of testing it here due to lack of good hardware
[15:52] < blindcoder> fake: ??
[15:52] < blindcoder> checking for the presence of Mac OS X ... no. phew, that was a close one.
[15:52] < blindcoder> (from ./configure of MRTG)
[15:52] < fake> the former one was from 3dfile ;)
[15:53] < blindcoder> sweet
[15:53] < blindcoder> fake could you make a screenshot?
[15:53] < blindcoder> There are none on 3dfiles site
[15:54] < blindcoder> esden: Install SuSE for the Lain Boot-Feeling :D
[15:55] blindcoder getting coffee
[15:55] < esden> blindcoder: *shoot*
[15:55] blindcoder making too many stupdi jokes again
[15:55] < esden> blindcoder: I was allready exploring the suse kernel patches ...
[15:55] < esden> I will most likely use them for our lain target ;-)
[15:56] < blindcoder> as long as they work, it's fine :)
[15:56] < fake> blindcoder; try clikcing "view screenshots"
[15:56] < blindcoder> the licq-gcc3.patch is also from the SuSE people
[15:57] < blindcoder> fake: *argh*
[15:57] < blindcoder> I have JavaScript turned off here...
[15:57] < fake> eh eh eh
[15:58] < blindcoder> fake: looks sweet, but far off from what I have in mind
[15:59] < esden> hmm ... but the filemanager needs some improovement if you ask me ...
[15:59] < esden> blindcoder: I really like it
[16:00] < blindcoder> yes it looks good... but as neither of you remembers the file-manager from "Jurassic Park 1" I can't describe properly what I have in mind
[16:01] < fake> forget 3dfile
[16:01] < fake> i was thinking about another one
[16:01] < fake> it had that Jurassic Park Look
[16:02] < fake> just a second...
[16:02] < blindcoder> I might even rip some code out of it like reading the content of directories etc. but the GUI isn't what I want it to be
[16:02] < blindcoder> fake: okay
[16:02] < esden> aha ?
[16:03] < fake> https://fsv.sourceforge.net/
[16:03] < fake> but that wasn't it anyways
[16:05] < esden> woot
[16:05] < esden> that is cool
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[16:06] < esden> ok ... /me off
[16:06] < esden> cu l8er
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[16:09] < blindcoder> fsv... erm... sorry, but I think that one sucks (judging by the screenshots)
[16:11] < blindcoder> oh a third option comes to mind... the OpenGL Frontend for stone :D
[16:12] < blindcoder> I _ebt_ that there isn't one yet *g*
[16:13] < blindcoder> brb...
[16:20] < blindcoder> re
[16:25] owl leaves you now
[16:25] < owl> bye
[16:25] < Mike1> bye owly
[16:26] Mike1 hugs owly
[16:26] < owl> *argh*
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[16:27] Mike1 drops a bone to owl
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[16:30] < Mike1> hi Lorini
[16:30] < Lorini> hi mikey :)
[16:30] < Mike1> :)
[16:31] Lorini is tired
[16:32] < fake> try a hot, steaming cup of instant-sleep
[16:32] fake hands one over
[16:33] < blindcoder> hi Lorini
[16:33] < Lorini> hi blindcoder :)
[16:33] blindcoder is just lazy right now
[16:33] < blindcoder> fake: I'll take the 1735 train today
[16:33] < Lorini> instant sleep.. pah, who needs sleep?
[16:33] < blindcoder> want to make that gldm theory into practice
[16:34] < blindcoder> ASAP
[16:34] < fake> mkay
[16:37] < fake> hahaha... *happy*
[16:37] < fake> it finally works ...
[16:38] < blindcoder> good :)
[16:48] < blindcoder> okay, I'm going home
[16:48] < blindcoder> bye bfye!
[16:48] < Mike1> cu blindcoder
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[17:13] < Mike1> hi bluefire
[17:24] < bluefire> hi mayan
[17:25] bluefire askjlfaskjd
[17:25] < bluefire> hi Mike1
[17:27] fake off -> train
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[18:50] < Mike1> *yawn*
[18:50] < LoriZzZ> night
[18:50] < LoriZzZ> :)
[18:50] < Mike1> nacht LoriZzZ
[19:04] < d3mian> cya next month :)
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[19:05] < Mike1> next month ... mm..
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[19:38] < tcr> moin all
[19:44] < Mike1> moin tcr
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[19:44] < holyolli> moin
[19:45] < tcr> hi Mike1! :)
[19:45] < holyolli> hi tcr
[19:46] < tcr> having free time in about an half hour? @ Mike1
[19:46] < tcr> hi olli
[19:46] < Mike1> tcr: make it 40 minutes :)
[19:46] < tcr> oks
[19:47] < Mike1> tcr: i am hungry so i will get me some food now :)
[19:47] Mike1 eating
[19:47] < holyolli> hi Mike1
[19:47] < Mike1> oh und hi holyolli
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[19:58] < esden> re hi all
[20:01] < holyolli_> hi esden
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[20:16] < Mike1> re all
[20:17] < tcr> sorry Mike1
[20:17] < tcr> my father has to repair some stuff about electrics
[20:18] < tcr> and he'll probably have to switch some power switches off
[20:18] < tcr> mom, i'll upload the most recent ROCK-Update version
[20:18] < Mike1> tcr: ok
[20:18] < Mike1> thanks
[20:19] < tcr> it should be the final version
[20:19] < Mike1> tcr: great i will look :)
[20:20] < tcr> https://www.freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/ROCK-Update/
[20:21] < tcr> about the ext pkgs problem, the pkgs that were marked as deleted, were actually removed
[20:21] < tcr> at least i can't find them myself
[20:21] < tcr> plz v erify that
[20:22] < Mike1> ok i will dig into that later today
[20:23] < tcr> will back in ~2 1/2 hours
[20:24] < Mike1> tcr: ok i will be still here by then
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[20:43] < Mike1> 0_o
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[21:33] < owl> hi
[21:34] < netcrow> hi
[21:34] Mike1 hugs owly
[21:34] < Mike1> hi owl
[21:34] < owl> *argh*
[21:34] < owl> hi Mike1
[21:34] < owl> hi netcrow
[21:34] < Mike1> owl: wie geths?
[21:34] < Mike1> gehts*
[21:35] < owl> Mike1: horrible. thx. blindcoder and i had a 2-hours-taking travel by train. --> delay of about 1 hour or so. someone killed him/herselfe.
[21:35] < owl> and how are you ?
[21:36] < netcrow> hehe, i was in the 19:53 train ;)
[21:36] < owl> netcrow: ARGH! YOU will die _NOW_!
[21:36] < owl> killed by a NULL-pointer ;P
[21:36] < netcrow> hehe
[21:36] < Mike1> owl: i am great as usual thanks
[21:37] < owl> netcrow: don't laugh. it's not funny.
[21:37] < owl> netcrow: how are you, btw
[21:39] < netcrow> solangsam wirds zeit die 19c3-fahrt und so zu planen
[21:39] < owl> netcrow: hmhm. du faehrst mit dem auto?
[21:40] < netcrow> jep
[21:40] < owl> hm. ist noch ein platz frei evtl...?
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[21:40] < netcrow> gute frage, is ein "kleinwagen" ;-)
[21:40] < owl> *gg* k.
[21:41] < owl> (aka schuhschachtel)
[21:41] < owl> und: gibt's im naehe vom hackcenter irgendwo ein hotel oder so, das frau sich leisten kann...?
[21:42] < holyolli> .oO(da war doch ne wiese, wo man nen zelt aufstellen kann... ;-)
[21:42] < holyolli> re, btw.
[21:42] < netcrow> re
[21:42] < holyolli> huhu owlita... *hug*
[21:42] < holyolli> hi netcrow
[21:42] < netcrow> ich fand die turnhalle recht bequem
[21:42] < owl> hi holyolli
[21:43] < owl> *g* du bist ja auch keine frau... (frauen duerften wohl ziemlich in der minderheit sein am 19c3 ;P)
[21:43] < owl> holyolli: im winter? na denn - froehliches campen...
[21:43] < netcrow> ach, es gibt 2 geschlechter?
[21:43] < holyolli> owl: naja..das mit der minderheit ist auch vieleicht nicht soooo verkehrt;;; *duck*
[21:43] < owl> urgs. alles spinner hier... ;P
[21:43] < owl> holyolli: warum denn ned?
[21:44] < holyolli> owl: und du mitten unter ihnen... ;)
[21:44] < owl> netcrow: hm. war dir des noch ned bekannt...?
[21:44] < holyolli> owl: naja..ueberleg mal, was fuer nen chaos das waer...ueberall waschmaschinen, geschirrspueler, etc.
[21:44] < owl> holyolli: tstststs. was denkst du denn? ;)
[21:44] < owl> holyolli: *tret*
[21:44] < owl> /kick holyolli
[21:44] < holyolli> owl: willst du wirklich wissen, was ich denke... ;)
[21:44] < holyolli> hehehe
[21:45] < owl> holyolli: nee, denn dann wuerde ich ja nix wissen... weil du bist ein mann, die denken ned...
[21:45] < holyolli> <-- ist grad so richtig gut in fahrt...den ganzen tag gelernt und nun muessen die aggressionen raus... ;)
[21:45] < owl> *lol* ich merk's
[21:45] < netcrow> in wieweit funktionieren eigentlich die rock-boot-disketten?
[21:45] < holyolli> fuer pc tuen die wohl
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[21:49] < Mike1> hi rxr
[21:49] < netcrow> hi rxr
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[21:50] < owl> hi rxr, wb aszlig
[21:54] < aszlig> rehi
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[22:09] < Mike1> re holyolli
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[22:47] < tcr> re all
[22:47] < Mike1> re tcr
[22:47] < owl> re tcr
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[23:00] < tcr> and Mike1`?
[23:00] < Mike1> .
[23:01] < Mike1> hier
[23:01] < Mike1> == 14:42:32 =[5]=> Building base package qt [3.0.6 1.5.20-Mike].
[23:01] < tcr> did you already take a look?
[23:02] < Mike1> hehe
[23:02] < Mike1> mom i will right now
[23:02] < Mike1> sorry i have been busy today :(
[23:02] < tcr> it's ok. i still have to write two emails anyway
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[23:10] < Mike1> ok
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[23:13] < Mike1> nice tcr
[23:13] < esden> humpf ...
[23:14] < Mike1> hi esden
[23:14] esden is too stupid for kernel ... >_<
[23:14] < owl> hi esdi.
[23:14] < esden> there is too much magic in it >_<
[23:14] < owl> esden: huh`? why?
[23:14] < Mike1> tcr: please send the url to huebi i am sure he will want to see it
[23:14] < esden> hi Mike1 & owl
[23:14] < Mike1> esden: whats the matter my friend?
[23:14] < owl> are you using 2.5.49?
[23:14] < esden> I fsck with framebuffer on my laptop
[23:15] < owl> esden: *g* poor esden. which kernel?
[23:15] < esden> owl: 2.5.49 && 2.4.19
[23:15] < owl> i c. in 2.5.49 --> no ati *whatever* cards work with framebuffer afaik...
[23:15] < esden> 2.5.49 freezes one minute after start
[23:15] < tcr> Mike1: of course. will inform him -- have to talk with him about this anyway..
[23:16] < esden> I can type 3 lines or so ...
[23:16] < Mike1> tcr: yes please do so
[23:16] < owl> esden: huh?! with fb? or without?
[23:16] < Mike1> tcr: in my opinion is just fine to be included
[23:16] < esden> and the framebuffer looks now much better after I found a patch on the lkml
[23:16] < Mike1> but huebi is the one who decides that
[23:16] < tcr> Mike1: i don't want it to be included as a normal script. That would lead to thousands of scripts like in 1.7 -- i don't like it.
[23:16] < owl> hm. can you give me the url, please?
[23:16] < esden> but it is still not really functional
[23:17] < esden> >_<
[23:17] < owl> *g*
[23:17] < tcr> Mike1: I actually intend to create a pkg for it
[23:17] < Mike1> yeah you could do that
[23:17] < esden> with fb @ owl
[23:17] < owl> haha.
[23:17] < esden> owl: url-P
[23:17] < Mike1> url :)
[23:18] < owl> hm?
[23:18] < Mike1> esden: i think i good translation for what owl means is url = wtf is fb
[23:18] < owl> Mike1: i'm using it right now...
[23:18] < Mike1> owl: really?
[23:19] < Mike1> i see
[23:19] < owl> (fb i mean) so don't complain
[23:19] < owl> Mike1: nope. not really. just really.
[23:19] < Mike1> esden: anyways you applied the patch, now whats wrong with it?
[23:20] < esden> it still contains artifacts
[23:20] < Mike1> ...?
[23:20] < Mike1> define artifacts
[23:20] < esden> and after some time and switching through the consoles I see only vertical lines
[23:21] < esden> artifact = some unexpected dirt on the display
[23:22] esden needs a digicam ... to show things to people that are too far away ... (Mike1)
[23:22] < Mike1> arrggg
[23:22] < esden> o_O
[23:22] < Mike1> no need to remind me :((
[23:23] < esden> sorry ;_;
[23:23] < Mike1> esden: i hate the fact of been the only rock dev in this side of the world
[23:23] < Mike1> i wish i was there
[23:23] < Mike1> no need to be sorry
[23:23] esden moving to costa rica ;-)
[23:23] < Mike1> weeehh!!! /me *jumparound*
[23:23] < esden> Mike1: you would not feel good here ... it is really cold here at the moment ...
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[23:23] < Mike1> esden: i am a cold lover
[23:24] < Mike1> too much sun here
[23:24] < esden> Mike1: you will change your mind on 19C3
[23:24] < esden> ;-)
[23:24] < esden> ahh ... 19C3 ... *jumparound*
[23:24] < esden> ;-)
[23:24] < Mike1> :)
[23:24] < Mike1> esden: we will see
[23:24] < esden> see what ?
[23:25] < esden> hmm ... /me has to start working on uClibc stuff >_<
[23:25] esden hitting himself and banging his head on the wall
[23:26] < Mike1> lol
[23:26] < owl> ouch. stop this!
[23:26] < Mike1> esden: yeah let owl do it in staed of you
[23:26] < tcr> Mike1: i still haven't got a reply about my two patches from huebi -- will wait with writing about rock-update issue until i got a response..
[23:26] < Mike1> tcr: yes its the best
[23:26] < esden> hmm ... /me waiting for an answer from huebi ...
[23:26] < owl> Mike1: nope. why?
[23:27] < owl> esden: hm. i guess you can wait _very, very_ long...?!
[23:27] < tcr> Mike1: btw. could you forward a new report mail of ROCK-update to me again, plz?
[23:27] esden wrote the patch for lcd support ... in 1.5 and got no reply till now ... >_<
[23:27] < esden> owl: why this ?
[23:27] < owl> esden: hm. [huebi] idle 19:32:45 <<
[23:27] < Mike1> esden: dont be suprised huebi is been really good at replying mails
[23:27] < tcr> esden: hmm you should write an article about lcd for RR
[23:28] < Mike1> i will email huebi bugging about that stuff
[23:28] < Mike1> esden: has the lcd patch been properly tested?
[23:28] < esden> Mike1: I sent him the patch 2 or 3 weeks ago
[23:29] < esden> Mike1: yes ... (as in it was working for me perfectly)
[23:29] < esden> but I wanted huebi to test it ...
[23:29] < esden> he could also write ... that it is not working ... when it is not working ...
[23:29] < Mike1> esden: excellent i will bug hime
[23:29] < SMP> hm
[23:30] < esden> hi SMP
[23:30] < Mike1> hi SMPy
[23:30] < esden> Mike1: yes do it
[23:30] < owl> moin SMP
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[23:32] < rolla> let me try copy
[23:32] < Mike1> ok
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[23:37] < tcr> Mike1: what's about the forwarrd?
[23:38] < esden> urgh ... that are _many_ changes in the 1.7 tree ... :-/
[23:39] < Mike1> tcr: what forward?
[23:39] < tcr> a new status report by rock-update again
[23:40] < Mike1> ah well tomorrow i must go to uni now
[23:40] Mike1 running
[23:40] < tcr> ok cu
[23:40] < esden> cu Mike1
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[23:40] < owl> bye Mike1
[23:40] < owl> *gr* too slow. tired. dead. *yawning*
[23:44] < esden> n8
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-!- Irrsi Log closed Tue Nov 26 00:00:02 2002