-!- Irrsi Log opened Fri Dec 13 00:00:22 2002
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[09:36] < fake> morgen.
[09:41] < Lorini> hi!
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[09:48] < blindcoder> moin
[09:48] < Lorini> moin und bye
[09:48] < Lorini> :)
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[10:31] < [anders]> lo
[10:31] < blindcoder> moin [anders]
[10:31] < blindcoder> moin temr
[10:31] < [anders]> yo blindcoder, how's tricks?
[10:33] < blindcoder> [anders]: could be better, could also be much worse :)
[10:33] < blindcoder> have been ill since Wednesday
[10:33] < blindcoder> but a few cans of steaming hot tea and half a day without computers got me back up so I'm coding since yesterday morning :)
[10:35] < [anders]> blindcoder: *g* can't keep a coder away from the 'puter for long, that is for schure.. :)
[10:35] < blindcoder> and how are you?
[10:37] < [anders]> not too bad.. not finding out about the contract negotiations until next week now..
[10:38] < blindcoder> why not until next week?
[10:40] < [anders]> the guy dealing with it in procurement is not in until then.. he decidced to take thursday/friday off..
[10:41] < blindcoder> oh... timing...
[10:42] < blindcoder> brb... IRQ by dog
[10:46] < blindcoder> ack
[10:46] < blindcoder> and gone again
[10:47] < [anders]> timing yes.. good no.. but hopefully he will verdict in my favour..
[10:47] < blindcoder> gotta get my grandpa from the oyo-doc
[10:47] < blindcoder> gotta get my grandpa from the eye-doc
[10:47] < [anders]> :)
[10:47] < blindcoder> I wish you good luck [anders] !
[10:47] < blindcoder> see you later!
[10:52] < [anders]> cya later blindcoder. take it easy when collecting your gandfather..
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[11:59] < esden> hi all
[12:07] < blindcoder> re
[12:08] < blindcoder> [anders]: he's still alive (even after leaving my car :)
[12:09] < esden> blindcoder: wonders happen
[12:09] < esden> ;-)
[12:10] < blindcoder> esden: sure :)
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[12:16] < esden> weee !!! : https://www.fredart.com/fredart/co_graphics/lain-otakon.jpg
[12:19] < blindcoder> endethat's an old one isn't it?
[12:20] < esden> yes very old ... one can see it in the quality ;-)
[12:20] < blindcoder> esden: okay, then I know it already :)
[12:20] < esden> fred is much better these days
[12:20] < blindcoder> esden: yupp.
[12:21] < blindcoder> esden: btw: do you know a way to do something like pstree just with ls?
[12:21] < esden> wawawawawa ... *jumparound* : https://www.fredart.com/fredart/co_graphics/kimiko-idol.jpg
[12:21] < esden> urgh ...
[12:21] < blindcoder> esden: I need an easy way te create a recursive directory listing
[12:21] < esden> I saw something like this ...
[12:23] < esden> blindcoder: tree
[12:23] < esden> /usr/bin/tree
[12:24] < blindcoder> esden: thanks. Just remembered to simply have a look at google.com/linux :)
[12:24] < blindcoder> esden: a search for ls tree gives you tree as first result :)
[12:24] < esden> i typed first man ls ... found nothing ... and then typed tre<tab> ;-)
[12:25] < blindcoder> as long as the result is correct :)
[12:25] < blindcoder> *ARGH*
[12:25] < blindcoder> IDIOTS! IDIOTS! NOTHING BUT BLOODY IDIOTS!!
[12:26] < blindcoder> esden: someone sending to me regarding my anime-FTP:
[12:26] < blindcoder> "Can you email me a txt version of the stuff you have?"
[12:26] < blindcoder> And what does HE do??
[12:26] < blindcoder> A 4 Anime.xls ( *) [applica/vnd.ms-exc, base64, 25K]
[12:27] < blindcoder> *AARRGGHH*
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[12:27] < blindcoder> hi Lorini
[12:27] < Lorini> hi blindcoder :)
[12:27] < Lorini> weekend :)
[12:29] < blindcoder> Lorini: sure :)
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[12:38] < esden> argh ... I want to print something ... and this fscking win2k is not able to communicate with the printer ... even if it is on ... connected ... and worked half an hour ago >_<
[12:38] < esden> I will kill it !
[12:38] < esden> hi Lorini *hug*
[12:38] < esden> blindcoder: do you have access to a color laser printer ?
[12:38] < Lorini> hi esden.. *hug*
[12:39] < blindcoder> esden: unfortunately, no
[12:39] < esden> aaaarrrggghh !!!
[12:39] < esden> or a mesh printer ? ;-)
[12:39] < blindcoder> the last one I had access to got burnt by a stupid "Schlipstraeger" who put InkJet-"Folien" into it
[12:40] < esden> AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGH !!! he should pay it !
[12:42] < blindcoder> esden: he got laid off (there was a DIN A3-Poster saying: "DO NOT INSERT INKJET-"Folien")
[12:44] < blindcoder> esden: do you know what these beasts cost around 2.5 years ago?
[12:44] < esden> you mean do not insert inkjet transparency ? can it be ?
[12:45] < blindcoder> I don't know the english word anymore >_<
[12:46] blindcoder now re-recording his CD-Collection
[12:46] < owl> moin
[12:47] < blindcoder> moin owl
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[12:48] < blindcoder> owl: there won't be ANY Subway/Tram/Bus/S-Bahn on Monday in Munich
[12:48] < esden> servoes owli
[12:48] < Lorini> hi owl
[12:48] < esden> blindcoder: why ?
[12:48] < owl> blindcoder: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS?°!
[12:48] < owl> hi blindcoder, esden, Lorini
[12:48] < blindcoder> esden: Warnstreiks
[12:49] < owl> blindcoder: are they totally insane?!
[12:49] < esden> owl: you can now play aszlig and "latsch" all the way through munich
[12:49] < blindcoder> owl: heard it in the News on the radio (you don't lusten to radio, do you?) today
[12:49] < Lorini> seid doch froh, müsst ihr nicht arbeiten
[12:49] < owl> esden: i won't. easier way: go to doctor and get a "krankschriebung"
[12:49] < blindcoder> Lorini: doch, muessen wir trotzdem!
[12:49] < Lorini> hm ok, dann is scheiße
[12:49] < owl> Lorini: arbeiten muessen wir. aber laufen, taxi fahren oder sonst was auch..
[12:50] < blindcoder> ich fahr mitm auto
[12:50] < Lorini> ausnahmsweise mal autofahren?
[12:50] owl wants to know when the fscking deutsche bahn will have warnstreiks
[12:50] < blindcoder> Lorini: ab MI waer ich sowieso auto
[12:50] < owl> blindcoder: have fun. ich geh zum arzt... wahrscheinlich...
[12:50] < blindcoder> owl: danke...
[12:51] < Lorini> naja aber dann wird am montag auch lustig viel verkehr sein.. noch mehr als sosnt
[12:51] < owl> jep.
[12:51] < blindcoder> Lorini: aber net um 05.30 :)
[12:51] Lorini findet, es sollten mal _alle_ leute aus _allen_ branchen am selben tag streiken.. _das_ wär lustig
[12:52] < blindcoder> schon
[12:52] < Lorini> blindcoder: warum fährst du eigentlich so früh los?
[12:52] < blindcoder> aber keiner wuerds merken
[12:52] < blindcoder> Lorini: weil ich um 07.30 @work sein muss
[12:52] < Lorini> oh doch, das glaub ich schon dass das jemand merken würde :)
[12:52] esden booting natalie ;-)
[12:54] < Lorini> lol?
[12:54] esden is really booting natalie
[12:54] < Lorini> ich hoffe natalie is kein mädchen
[12:55] < esden> noch ist es
[12:55] < Lorini> ahja..
[12:55] < blindcoder> Lorini: sein Lappy
[12:55] < esden> ein ganz liebes ... schoenes ... suesses ... und starkes maedchen
[12:55] < esden> noe mein lappy heisst lain
[12:55] < blindcoder> esden: sowas gibts net :P
[12:55] < Lorini> lain?!
[12:55] < Lorini> natalie?
[12:55] < Lorini> aha
[12:56] < Lorini> mein pc heißt "schrottkiste" oder, wenn man lieb sein will, "blechhaufen"
[12:56] < esden> und mein router heisst naru
[12:56] < blindcoder> wieso schmeisst ihn dann net weg?
[12:56] < owl> esden: *lol*
[12:56] < blindcoder> wenn er 'schrott' ist?
[12:56] < Lorini> blindy: ist er ja nicht, er heißt nur so
[12:56] < esden> und natalie ist meine alpha ... mein liebling
[12:57] esden knuddelt natalie
[12:57] < Lorini> blindcoder: man darf nicht zu lieb zu ihm sein, er ist ein kerl, die vertragen das net
[12:57] < owl> Lorini: full ack
[12:57] < Lorini> ;)
[12:57] < esden> owl: ruhe !
[12:58] < blindcoder> und die Frauen lassen es sich zu Kopfe steigen wenn man auch nur einmal nett ist
[12:58] < owl> esden: was denn? ;)
[12:58] < esden> owl kriegt ihre stimme von esden entzogen
[12:58] < owl> esden: haha. :P
[12:58] < esden> blindcoder: full ack
[12:58] < esden> owl zu den toepfen _SOFFORT_
[12:58] < Lorini> blindcoder: och.. nö.. nicht wirklich
[12:58] < owl> Lorini: wir muessen uns verbuenden gegen diese schrecklichen maenner her...
[12:58] < owl> esden: lern erstmal schreiben
[12:58] < Lorini> owl: sieht schlecht aus.. zwei gegen.. viele
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[12:59] < owl> Lorini: na und? die anderen sind momentan ned da... wie's aussieht... und: gucke dir doch LOTR an... da schaffen 2 leute auch einen ganzen haufen orks abzumurksen... des klappt auch mit maennern...
[12:59] < Lorini> AH
[12:59] < Lorini> hilfe!
[13:00] -!- mode/#rocklinux [-v owl] by esden
[13:00] < owl> Lorini: hm?
[13:00] < owl> esden: fieser typ :P
[13:00] Lorini setzt sich ne tarnkappe auf und ist für esden unsichtbar
[13:00] <@esden> muahaha
[13:00] < blindcoder> esden: GUT SO!!!
[13:00] owl sollt sich bei esden wieder einschleimen... ;P
[13:00] <@esden> Lorini: brauchst dich nicht zu verstecken ... mommentan bist du noch sicher ...
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[13:01] < Lorini> *g*
[13:01] < Lorini> ich würde gerne meinen drucker dazu kriegen, besser zu drucken
[13:01] < Lorini> aber das is auch ein kerl.. der schnallt einfach net, was ich von ihm will
[13:01] < esden> owl: nein ... nicht einschleimen ... denn dass wuerde alles noch schlimmer fuer dich machen ...
[13:01] < esden> ;-)
[13:01] < owl> esden: oh, oh... *schluck*
[13:01] blindcoder sagt dazu mal wieder nur eins: "Computer sind nur so dumm wie ihru User."
[13:02] < owl> blindcoder: ruhe!
[13:02] < blindcoder> owl: Fakt.
[13:02] < esden> blindcoder: nein ... es liegt nur an der konzentration von bogonen ... das ist alles
[13:02] < blindcoder> esden: hehe, so kann man es auch sehen :P
[13:02] < Lorini> is das so wie mit hunden und ihren herrchen?
[13:02] < owl> blindcoder: des trifft vielleicht auf den layer-8 vom bitz zu, aber ned auf Lorini - sie ist schliesslich 'ne frau.
[13:03] < esden> was hat das damit zu tun ?
[13:03] < blindcoder> owl: Ich sag nicht dass Frauen nichts von Computern verstehen koennen. Aber ich sage dass sie sich genause bloed anstellen (meistens) wie einig andere Leute
[13:03] < esden> ihr setzt auf gleuchberechtigung ... deshlb seid ihr zur dummheit genauso berechtigt wie maenner
[13:04] < Lorini> esden: nanana
[13:04] < blindcoder> esden: vergis es. Owl ist ne Maennerhasserin und dabei wirds bleiben. Also einfach in Ruhe lassen
[13:04] < owl> esden: berechtigt ja. aber wir setzen sie nicht ein, die dummheit... weil wir sie nicht besitzen
[13:04] < owl> blindcoder: noe. nix maennerhasserin. ... ;)
[13:04] < blindcoder> esden: soviel dummh^H^H^H^H^H^HVersessenhei sollte man einfach ignorieren
[13:05] < Lorini> owl: nimm mich *g*
[13:05] < owl> Lorini: bitte? nein...
[13:05] < Lorini> :)
[13:05] esden schuettelt seinen kopf und loescht das owlwahrnehmungsmodul aus seinem hirn
[13:06] < owl> esden: *g* och. sei doch ned so...
[13:06] < Lorini> oh mann... warum macht mein drucker einfach nicht das, was er soll??
[13:06] < esden> Lorini: weil irgendwas kaputt ist ?
[13:06] < owl> sodale. esden, du hast es geschafft... ich brauche wieder meine drogen... *heul* ;P
[13:06] < owl> brb
[13:06] < blindcoder> Lorini: weil er das macht, was du ihm sagst?
[13:07] < Lorini> nein der is net kaputt
[13:07] < Lorini> der hat doch grade eben neue patronen bekommen :(
[13:07] < blindcoder> " Ping's 'Overclocked' shirt - pants not required."
[13:08] < esden> blindcoder: o_O
[13:08] < Lorini> ok yeeeeeah er macht es :)
[13:08] < blindcoder> https://www.thinkgeek.com/interests/megatokyo/leetware/5c42/
[13:09] < blindcoder> "We advise against any attempts to 'overclock' Emotional Doll System PS2 accessories. Doing so will void their warranty.
[13:09] < blindcoder> "
[13:09] < blindcoder> AAAH
[13:10] < Lorini> ... papierstau *kopf auf tischplatte hau*
[13:12] < owl> zum geier nochmal!! barracuda macht mich echt noch wahnsinnig!
[13:12] < tsa> hehehe
[13:12] < owl> hi tsa. ruhe da
[13:12] < blindcoder> tsa: hi. Weiter so :)
[13:13] < owl> tsa: ausser du kannst mir sagen woran es liegen kann, warum diese kiste - trotz im bios aktivierten "boot from cd" und einem lw, das das unterstuetz (und einer bootfaehigen cd) - nciht von cd bootet...
[13:14] < blindcoder> isses n RW?
[13:14] < blindcoder> hast dus mit ner anderem boot-CD probiert?
[13:14] < blindcoder> hast scrhon n anderes LW getestet?
[13:14] < blindcoder> hast du die boot-Reihenfolge kontrolliert?
[13:14] < owl> blindcoder: cdbrenner... und ausgetestet: cd-rs, cd-rws, gekaufte cds...
[13:14] esden -> pizza (YUM)
[13:14] < owl> blindcoder: ja. ein uraltes... des hat gleich gar nix gemadcht..
[13:15] < owl> esden: guten appettit
[13:15] < owl> blindcoder: sicher
[13:15] < blindcoder> esden: an guadn
[13:15] < blindcoder> hast die CD woanders getestet?
[13:15] < owl> blindcoder: ja. auf meinen beiden notebooks und auf k0y0r0 klappts problemlos
[13:15] < owl> gehts
[13:16] < tsa> mit genau der gleichen CD?
[13:16] < owl> tsa: mit der selben cd..
[13:16] < tsa> hm..
[13:16] < tsa> im scsi-bios nicht passend eingestellt?
[13:17] < tsa> int 13h boot extension krams..
[13:17] < th_> worum gehts?
[13:17] < owl> genau... bios von 1997... :-// keine updates mehr verfuegbar...
[13:17] < th_> booten von scsi-cd?
[13:17] < owl> tsa: des ist ein ide-lw
[13:17] < tsa> moin th_
[13:17] < tsa> owl: oehm.
[13:17] < owl> hi th_
[13:17] < blindcoder> hi th_
[13:17] < blindcoder> owls CD-Laufwerk will net booten
[13:17] < tsa> owl: dann auf jeden fall bios-problem
[13:18] < tsa> hat der rechner schonmal jemals von cd gebootet?
[13:18] < owl> owl: urgs. :-// danke
[13:18] < th_> ide oder scsi?
[13:18] < tsa> is wohl nen ide..
[13:18] < owl> tsa: irgendwann schon mal... aber mit einem anderen lw...
[13:18] < th_> wenns scsi is sollte man floppy als boot-device einstellen, weil das scsi bios ja ne diskette emuliert
[13:19] < owl> tsa: und da ging dann nur cdr - so nach dem zufallsprinzip... :-/
[13:19] < tsa> owl: hm...kannst du aussschliessen, dass du nicht ein extrem komisches und/oder kaputtes cdrom hast?
[13:20] < owl> tsa: hm. kann ich nicht... obwohl der brenner, der jetzt in dem ding ist - und gar ned bootet - in 'nem anderen rechner booten kann :-/
[13:23] < owl> tsa: mit dem latein am ende?
[13:23] < blindcoder> fuer mich klingts nach ner falschen boot-reihenfolge im bios
[13:24] < tsa> owl: wenn die bios-einstellungen ok sind und die cd bootfaehig, bleibt eigentlich nicht mehr so viel, was man ausprobieren kann..
[13:24] < owl> blindcoder: ich bin doch ned blind. cdrom, c, a
[13:25] < owl> tsa: ja... leider. trotzdem danke fuer die hilfe :)
[13:25] < tsa> ..und was passiert? bootet von c?
[13:25] < owl> ja.
[13:26] < owl> davor versucht er noch auf die cdrom zuzugreifen "failed"
[13:26] < owl> also: "booting from cdrom ... " cdrom-lw liest cd "failed"
[13:28] < blindcoder> und andere CDs booten... versuch einfach mal die CD nochmal zu brennen... vielleicht ist da was schiefgelaufen
[13:29] < owl> blindcoder: er bootet mit diesem LW _gar keine_ cd-rws, cd-rs, gekaufte cds ... aber mit dem alten lw zumindest die gekauften...
[13:29] < blindcoder> und das sagst du jetzt...
[13:30] < blindcoder> 13:13 < owl> tsa: ausser du kannst mir sagen woran es liegen kann, warum diese kiste - trotz im bios aktivierten "boot from cd" und einem lw, das das unterstuetz (und einer bootfaehigen cd) - nciht von cd
[13:30] < blindcoder> bootet...
[13:30] < blindcoder> das klingt fuer mich nach "Ich hab mitn dem LW schon mal so wies jetzt ist bootfaehige CDs gebootet"
[13:31] < owl> nein...! das lw das augenblicklich eingebaut ist hat schon oft von cd gebootet in einer anderen kiste
[13:32] < blindcoder> schon mal die Kabel getauscht?
[13:32] < blindcoder> anderen IDE-Port versucht?
[13:32] < blindcoder> von Slave auf Master oder andersrum?
[13:32] < owl> ja
[13:33] < blindcoder> versuch mal cdrom, a, c
[13:33] < blindcoder> oder erstell mal boot-disketten
[13:34] < blindcoder> BIOS-Update?
[13:34] < owl> blindcoder: dazu ist es zu alt. gibt's keine mehr wie's aussieht...
[13:35] < owl> bzw habe ich des letzte, das mir mein handler vor x jahren noch besorgen konnte :-/
[13:35] < blindcoder> tja, das klingt sehr nach der Wurzel des Problem
[13:36] < owl> urgs :-//
[13:36] < owl> aber mich wuerde interessieren warum zum henker dann dieses uralt-1995-lw immerhin noch booten kann...
[13:36] < blindcoder> weil: Altes BIOS + Altes CD == OK
[13:37] < blindcoder> Altes BIOS + Neues CD != OK
[13:37] < owl> gebe mir eine knarre und ich erschiesse mich
[13:37] < owl> altes bios (auch von award) + neues cd (in apokalypse drinne) == ok
[13:37] < blindcoder> dann waeren wir dich wenigstens los :)
[13:37] < esden> re
[13:37] < owl> re esden
[13:37] < blindcoder> re esden
[13:41] < esden> b4k4^n1
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[13:41] < esden> hi tcr
[13:42] < blindcoder> does anyone know the Kernel Panic blink-code?
[13:42] < esden> blindcoder: which code do you have ?
[13:42] tcr hails all
[13:42] < blindcoder> Caps and Scroll
[13:42] < esden> root partition not found
[13:42] < blindcoder> HHAAeEEEE?
[13:42] < blindcoder> RUNTIME??
[13:43] < esden> hmm ... strange ...
[13:43] < blindcoder> after 2 days uptime??
[13:47] < esden> lool I searched for the codes in google and the first two are the irclogs of #rocklinux ;-)
[13:47] < esden> i mean the first two hits
[13:47] < blindcoder> *lol*
[13:49] < esden> and that were my postings that contained the matching words ...
[13:54] < blindcoder> esden: doesn't matter, seems like the CD-Drive fucked something up after I accidentally inserted two CDs at once
[13:56] < esden> panic'ed. This is to distingush panics from "real" lockups.
[13:56] < esden> Could in theory send the panic message as morse, but that is left as an
[13:56] < esden> exercise for the reader. */
[13:56] < esden> hmm ... first line missing : /* Tell the user who may be running in X and not see the console that we have
[13:57] < esden> but there is nothing about the codes
[13:57] < blindcoder> yes, so it's been a definite Panic
[13:57] < esden> it seems that it is blinking like this always when a panic occures
[13:57] < blindcoder> mhm
[13:57] < esden> and you can not distinguish the panic type
[13:58] < esden> alan wrote a patch ... so you can read the panic message as morse
[13:58] < blindcoder> well... doesn't matter... I think it's been something with the CD-Rom
[13:58] < blindcoder> If you can understand morse :)
[13:58] < esden> blindcoder: learn it ;-)
[13:58] < esden> where is the problem ?
[13:58] < aszlig> rehi
[13:58] < aszlig> *lol*
[13:58] < esden> hi aszlig
[13:58] < blindcoder> nah. Need it not often enough
[13:59] < blindcoder> mould forget half of it within a week
[13:59] < blindcoder> hi aszlig
[13:59] < esden> hmm ... you have to let your kernel panic more often ;-)
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[13:59] < blindcoder> hehe
[13:59] < aszlig> blindcoder: do you type on dvorak currently?
[13:59] < blindcoder> panic --help
[13:59] < blindcoder> panic: Let's the kernel panic with a random impossibility :)
[14:00] < aszlig> panic -h now
[14:00] < esden> ssh esden@aszlig -e panic
[14:01] < aszlig> System is going down for PANIC now.
[14:01] < aszlig> esden: grr!
[14:01] < aszlig> *gg*
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[14:02] < aszlig> esden: but you cannot panic as user, so the command should be:
[14:02] esden holt einen tacker raus
[14:02] < blindcoder> aszlig: I betcha you can panic as user :)
[14:02] < aszlig> ssh -p10 esden@aszlig.net -e sudo panic
[14:02] < aszlig> blindcoder: yeah, but that's pebcak
[14:03] < aszlig> s/.\{3\}$/kac/
[14:03] esden going with the tacker in direction of aszlig ...
[14:03] < aszlig> aiiieh!
[14:03] < aszlig> *shriiek*
[14:03] < blindcoder> see, you panicked :)
[14:03] < aszlig> *runaway*
[14:03] < esden> hehe ... that is the best way to make aszlig panic
[14:03] < aszlig> urgh..
[14:04] < owl> brb
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[14:04] < esden> finally ;-)
[14:04] < blindcoder> hehe
[14:04] < esden> no feministic influence here anymore ;-)
[14:05] aszlig is back again, from hard rebbot 'couse of a panic
[14:05] < esden> ok ... Lorini ... but she is not as extreme as owl ...
[14:05] < blindcoder> no _stupid_ feministic ...
[14:05] < esden> that is ok
[14:05] < esden> blindcoder: ACK
[14:06] < aszlig> *lol*
[14:06] < aszlig> erm..
[14:06] < esden> o_O
[14:06] < Lorini> was wie
[14:06] < aszlig> https://www.google.com/search?q=stupid%20owl
[14:06] < esden> rofl : https://www.symlink.ch/pollBooth.pl?qid=02%2F12%2F09%2F192242&aid=7
[14:07] < aszlig> *lol* gar nicht...
[14:08] < blindcoder> esden: deutsches /. ??
[14:08] < esden> jaaa
[14:08] < esden> deutschprachiges
[14:08] < blindcoder> dacht ich mir doch bei den Untertiteln zu der booth :)
[14:08] < esden> it is really good ... not so infiltrated with weenies like /.
[14:09] < blindcoder> eheh
[14:09] < blindcoder> s/(.)(...)/$2$1/
[14:09] < aszlig> blindcoder: sed rules over perl regexp!
[14:10] < aszlig> blindcoder: erm..
[14:10] < aszlig> blindcoder -> lindbcoder
[14:11] < blindcoder> eheh -> hehe
[14:11] < aszlig> yeah, but if you include the nick..
[14:11] < blindcoder> nerv net
[14:11] < aszlig> s/\(.\)\(.\{3\}$/\2\1/
[14:11] < aszlig> oh..
[14:12] < aszlig> s/\(.\)\(.\{3\}\)$/\2\1/
[14:12] < aszlig> eheh :)
[14:12] < blindcoder> whatever
[14:12] aszlig has to bug now :)
[14:12] < aszlig> :P
[14:13] < esden> wee : weasel@apollo:~$ uptime
[14:13] < esden> 14:12:56 up 207 days, 15:29, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.04
[14:13] < aszlig> urks..
[14:13] < fake> morgen esden
[14:13] < esden> hi fake !
[14:13] < aszlig> aszlig@dvorak:/home/aszlig% uptime
[14:13] < aszlig> 14:13:20 up 17 days, 16:27, 21 users, load average: 0.18, 0.07, 0.01
[14:13] < blindcoder> esden: no dnetc running?
[14:13] < esden> blindcoder: nope ... I want to reach the highest possible uptime !
[14:14] < aszlig> eheh
[14:14] < esden> I want that the uptime variable wraps ;-)
[14:15] < blindcoder> *lol*
[14:15] < blindcoder> 400+ days, wasn't it?
[14:15] < fake> esden: i have a rocklinux poster
[14:15] < fake> i was at that designer firm
[14:15] < esden> fake: o_O ?
[14:15] < fake> and installed their plotter
[14:15] < fake> and we needed to test the installation
[14:16] < blindcoder> nice :)
[14:16] < esden> lool ... which image have you plotted ?
[14:16] < fake> and i _accidentaly_ had an .eps version of the rocklinux logo with me
[14:16] < aszlig> hehe
[14:16] < esden> _accidentaly_ ... lool
[14:16] < fake> 1270mm
[14:16] < fake> broad
[14:16] < fake> that's bigger than A1
[14:16] < aszlig> whew..
[14:16] < esden> A0 ?
[14:16] < fake> esden: not sure
[14:17] < blindcoder> 1.27 meters?
[14:17] < aszlig> maybe, you should put that one in bitz..
[14:17] < aszlig> brb :Q
[14:17] < esden> is it as big as the kernel poster ?
[14:17] < fake> well... yes. or was it 1720mm?
[14:17] < blindcoder> aszlig: are you insane?
[14:17] < fake> esden: broader.
[14:17] < esden> aszlig: NO NO WAY
[14:17] fake could print real flags
[14:17] < blindcoder> owl is SMS-bombing me
[14:17] < esden> what ? !!
[14:18] < esden> argh ... we need a rocklinux flag !
[14:18] < esden> ;-)
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[14:18] < owl> re
[14:18] < aszlig> rehi
[14:18] < fake> esden: 10 EUR / square meter
[14:18] < fake> zum unkostenpreis
[14:18] < fake> *g*
[14:18] < esden> WEEE
[14:18] < aszlig> hehe
[14:18] < fake> weil ich so nen schoenen fileserver gemacht hab ;)
[14:19] < esden> fake: ok ... will you have the flag ready for 19c3 ?
[14:19] < esden> ;-)
[14:19] < fake> esden: if we put together some money...
[14:19] < esden> yo I am in
[14:19] < fake> up to 30m in lenght, btw *g*
[14:19] < blindcoder> esden: btw. Who asks Kawaii about the penguin? I doubt she'll listen to me :)
[14:19] < esden> urgh !!!
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[14:20] < esden> blindcoder: I have already asked
[14:20] < blindcoder> esden: and?
[14:20] < esden> and we will get the penguin
[14:20] < blindcoder> esden: sw33t :)
[14:20] < esden> but she needs to fix him in some place ...
[14:20] < blindcoder> *LOOOL*
[14:20] < esden> because he got a hole ;-)
[14:20] fake thinking about a text to put on the flag
[14:20] < blindcoder> what has she DONE to the poor penguin!?
[14:21] < fake> "i don't know what to write onto this flag [rocklinuxlogo]"
[14:21] < aszlig> fake: hrm..
[14:21] < esden> lol
[14:21] < blindcoder> fake: undescribable :)
[14:21] < esden> no ...
[14:21] < esden> fake: ask the firm ... they are designers ;-)
[14:21] < aszlig> fake: write a md5 checksum of all rocklinux devels onto it ;)
[14:21] < tcr> fake: mathilda of course!
[14:22] < fake> that's good!
[14:22] < esden> ahh ... yes mathilda
[14:22] < fake> mathilda!
[14:22] < blindcoder> or some BranF*ck Code :)
[14:22] < esden> ascii mathilda
[14:22] < fake> naaargh! i should have thought about that an hour ago
[14:22] < esden> saying muhh
[14:22] < aszlig> yeah :)
[14:22] < blindcoder> that's autputs "ROCK Linux" :)
[14:22] < aszlig> note
[14:22] < aszlig> urks..
[14:23] aszlig is very ConFuseD today :)
[14:23] < blindcoder> esden: did you ask WHERE taht hole is?
[14:23] < esden> blindcoder: no ... ...
[14:24] aszlig is getting a mirror of esdens irclogs...
[14:24] esden plugging in his laptop to get icq
[14:24] < esden> aszlig: ???
[14:24] < esden> aszlig: what for ?
[14:25] blindcoder firing up ICQ, too
[14:25] < blindcoder> esden: send me a mesage so that I have you again
[14:25] < aszlig> esden: just to have a mirror of it ;)
[14:26] < esden> blindcoder: kk
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[14:33] -!- Lorini_ is now known as Lorini
[14:34] blindcoder just has someone from Hong Kong hooked up in his ICQ... and I can't get rid of him *grr*
[14:34] esden found his ccc batches ... /me gluing them somewhere
[14:34] < blindcoder> Mine is on a CD-Box :)
[14:34] < esden> blindcoder: o_O ?
[14:35] < blindcoder> esden: he keeps bugging me on different UINs... in a language I don't understand...
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[14:38] < esden> blindcoder: O_o ?
[14:38] < blindcoder> esden: you're looking stupid :)
[14:39] < esden> blindcoder: O_O
[14:39] blindcoder points to esden and laughs *haha*
[14:39] < esden> T_T
[14:39] < blindcoder> *LOL*
[14:40] < esden> >_<
[14:40] < blindcoder> ?_?
[14:40] < blindcoder> $_$
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[14:40] < esden> o.o
[14:40] < blindcoder> -_-
[14:40] < esden> ^_^
[14:41] < blindcoder> ¯-¯
[14:41] < blindcoder> ¯_¯
[14:41] < aszlig> @_@
[14:41] < blindcoder> that way :)
[14:41] < blindcoder> C_#
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[14:41] < esden> ;_;
[14:42] < aszlig> |\o^o/|
[14:42] < jk> o_O
[14:42] < aszlig> 'lo jk
[14:42] < jk> hi :)
[14:42] < esden> muh jk
[14:42] < blindcoder> :3
[14:42] < blindcoder> hi jk
[14:43] esden needs a japanese smeyleys description page ...
[14:43] < rolla> grrr
[14:43] < esden> hi rolla !
[14:43] rolla is going to kill 1.5.20 install disks :(
[14:44] < esden> *no_comment*
[14:44] < rolla> why?
[14:44] < rolla> > #### Creating symlinks for multi-call binaries ####
[14:44] < rolla> > rm: invalid option -- v
[14:44] < rolla> > ln: invalid option -- v
[14:44] < rolla> > BusyBox v0.60.2 (2002.12.13-09:54+0000) multi-call binary
[14:44] < rolla> grrr
[14:44] < blindcoder> blb
[14:45] < tsa> hm..
[14:46] < rolla> busybox should die ;)
[14:47] < esden> fake: I have three cdroms for you
[14:48] < blindcoder> re
[14:48] < esden> ro
[14:48] < rolla> esden do you not like the install-disks? from 1.5.20?
[14:49] < esden> hmm ... i have some prejedices against 1.5 tree in the last time ... (I know that it is not good ...)
[14:49] < tcr> hm?
[14:50] < rolla> why?
[14:50] < rolla> oh well does anyone in here know busybox really well?
[14:50] < rolla> or heck at all
[14:51] < blindcoder> I know it can be linked against diet...
[14:51] esden not
[14:51] < esden> blindcoder: aha ... really ... ;-)
[14:51] < rolla> dang
[14:51] < blindcoder> esden: [anders] said so IIRC
[14:51] < tcr> why rolla?
[14:52] < rolla> because as the 1.5 build goes to do the install disks it copys busybox which works into it's dir
[14:52] < rolla> and then links all the comands like ls , du and so on to it
[14:52] < tcr> yap
[14:52] < rolla> but for some odd reason they all act like they are umount
[14:52] < tcr> ?? lol
[14:53] < rolla> > #### du -k of the binaries ####
[14:53] < rolla> > umount: .: not mounted
[14:53] < rolla> > umount: f: not found
[14:53] < rolla> > xargs: invalid option -- k
[14:53] < rolla> > Usage: umount [-hV]
[14:53] < rolla> > umount -a [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] [-t vfstypes]
[14:53] < rolla> > umount [-f] [-r] [-n] [-v] special | node...
[14:53] < rolla> grrr
[14:54] < tcr> hm ...
[14:54] < rolla> but this script works for Mike
[14:55] < rolla> so he thinks it is my system but I have no idea what could be causing this
[14:56] < esden> woot natalie is back online !!!!!!
[14:56] < rolla> ?
[14:56] < tcr> rolla: hm. ln -s /tmp/du /path/to/busybox
[14:56] < tcr> does it work properly then?
[14:57] < fake> esden: which cds?
[14:57] < tcr> (invoking with /tmp/du)
[14:57] < rolla> yes
[14:57] < rolla> it is very odd
[14:57] < esden> fake: cdrom drives ... that you borrowed me
[14:58] < fake> aw. i c. they were all broken?
[14:58] < tcr> rolla: try to make the same circumstances like in the script, IOW try to reproduce it
[14:58] < rolla> I did
[14:59] < tcr> so?
[14:59] < rolla> I cannot reproduce it outside of running the script
[14:59] < rolla> when I do it all by hand it works just fine
[14:59] < tcr> XD
[15:00] < esden> fake: no my mother bought a new drive ... my brother tested only one of it ... or so
[15:00] < esden> and I do not know which one it was ... but it was not working >_<
[15:00] < fake> grml. thought i could save me the work of testing them ;)
[15:00] < fake> j/k
[15:01] < esden> cool ... now is ra also online ;-)
[15:01] < fake> aw, and i got a 40GB IDE drive in exchange for my old 4GB SCSI drive
[15:01] < blindcoder> ra?
[15:01] < blindcoder> Roberto?
[15:01] < esden> blindcoder: yes a sun fire v100
[15:01] < blindcoder> oh
[15:02] < esden> but i am not able to get the network interfaces working
[15:02] < esden> >_<
[15:02] < fake> ra -> god of the sun
[15:02] < esden> I am to stupid for that
[15:02] < blindcoder> that reminds me that the 9 GB SCA Disk is still waitinng to be worked on...
[15:02] < esden> fake: and also the main god af the egiptians AFAIK
[15:03] < esden> hmm ... I need a name for the hp apollo box
[15:03] < esden> a good name ...
[15:03] < esden> a sweet girl name ;-)
[15:03] < fake> apollo? ;)
[15:03] < blindcoder> Tessa :)
[15:03] < blindcoder> Chidori
[15:03] < blindcoder> Yukar
[15:03] < esden> but the hp is very sloow
[15:03] < blindcoder> Yukari
[15:04] < blindcoder> Lina
[15:04] < fake> slow and old
[15:04] < owl> erebos (but not girl name)
[15:04] < fake> granny?
[15:04] < esden> chidori is cool
[15:04] < fake> supergran?
[15:04] < esden> supergran ! lool
[15:04] < blindcoder> daisy :)
[15:04] < esden> I need a name of a anime super granny
[15:05] < esden> what was the name of the granny in ranma ?
[15:05] < blindcoder> there is none
[15:05] < esden> the one that was floating all the time
[15:05] < blindcoder> but you could just call it obaachan
[15:05] < esden> obaachan
[15:05] < esden> hehe
[15:05] < blindcoder> or "baachan" for short
[15:05] < esden> baachan ... ok it types good ;-)
[15:06] < esden> hmm ... I have to update my cc hardware list ... because mike1 is not able to come to 19c3 i will not take the second alpha with me ... but the hp apollo
[15:07] < esden> or as from now baachan
[15:07] < blindcoder> I'll come with scavenger, crazyhorse and sundance
[15:08] < esden> hmm my main intel box is still not having a good name
[15:08] < blindcoder> arbalest
[15:08] < esden> but arbalest is not femail
[15:08] < blindcoder> Gekigangar
[15:08] < blindcoder> Nadesico
[15:08] < blindcoder> hmm female....
[15:09] < tcr> brunhilda
[15:09] < blindcoder> give me a minute...
[15:09] < tcr> sister of mathilda
[15:09] < blindcoder> esden: motoko
[15:09] < rolla> grr
[15:09] < blindcoder> esden: lina
[15:09] < blindcoder> esden: seraphim :)
[15:09] < esden> blindcoder: motoko kusanagi !
[15:10] < esden> major kusanagi ;-)
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[15:10] < blindcoder> esden: jepp, tnhat'-s what I had in mind
[15:10] < esden> motoko is good
[15:10] < esden> ok ... then I take to 19c3 motoko, natalie and baachan
[15:11] esden and three girls ;-)
[15:13] < blindcoder> esden: I hope they won't be naked :)
[15:14] < esden> blindcoder: they will be in short bikinis ... and make tabledance to gather attraction for our project ;-)
[15:14] < blindcoder> esden: well, that's good :)
[15:15] < blindcoder> I hope our own people on't be too distracted then :)
[15:15] < esden> hehe ;-)
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[15:17] < Lorini> hey.. cap :)
[15:17] < capchaos> re
[15:18] < esden> hi capchaos
[15:18] < capchaos> hi esden and blindy
[15:19] < blindcoder> hi cappy
[15:19] < blindcoder> hi Freak
[15:19] capchaos hopes you won't take Lorini to 19c3 naked.
[15:19] < owl> moin capchaos, Freak
[15:19] < capchaos> re owl
[15:20] capchaos deletes Black_-_Wonderful_Life.mp3
[15:21] tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - Geopfert
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[15:22] Freak is currently playing Jennifer Lopez - I've Been Thinkin'
[15:22] < Freak> >;P
[15:23] < esden> capchaos: /me will make a man in the middle attack when Lorini is moved to bavaria ... and then change her route to 19c3 ... that is the smallest thing I can do
[15:23] < Lorini> lol
[15:24] < owl> do svidania.
[15:24] < capchaos> esden: No way. You won't get away with it ;P
[15:24] < capchaos> owl: bye owl
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[15:24] capchaos wonders owl speaks russian
[15:24] < blindcoder> capchaos: who's gonna stop him?
[15:24] < esden> capchaos: uhmm ... why ?
[15:25] < esden> blindcoder: well said
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[15:25] < esden> re Parabull
[15:25] < capchaos> blindcoder: The Weihnachtsmann is gonna stop him. Cause Lorini is on my wishlist.
[15:26] < blindcoder> capchaos: we'll just launch some decoy-scripts, and he'll never know until it's too late *MWAHAHAHA*
[15:27] < esden> blindcoder: we only have to make a DDOS attack on the santa headquoters ... and then he will never get the wishlist
[15:27] < fake> hehe.
[15:27] < blindcoder> I have to borrow some Viruses from 'Ghost in the Shell: Man-Machine Interface' then...
[15:28] < fake> capchaos: you both are invited to stop by on silvester
[15:28] < fake> capchaos: there's a big party at my house
[15:28] < esden> good idea
[15:28] < esden> I mean both blindcoder, fake
[15:29] < capchaos> fake: Thx! Ingolstadt would be almost right on our way. Let's see..
[15:29] < Lorini> öhm
[15:29] < fake> and the biggest part of the "south bavaria" - 19c3 crew will be there, too.
[15:30] < capchaos> Lorini: Hmß
[15:30] < capchaos> ?
[15:30] < Lorini> fake: meinst das ernst?
[15:31] < fake> (of course, every rock developer is invited)
[15:31] < fake> klar.
[15:33] < blindcoder> okay, 264 CDs reindexed, almost 1,500 SQL-Instructions and 3 hours of work
[15:33] capchaos isn't a rock developer
[15:34] < fake> aehm... every rock sympathisant?
[15:34] Lorini isnt really a rock sympathisant..... *duck*
[15:34] < capchaos> Yeah :)
[15:35] < fake> and IOs.
[15:35] < esden> fake: perhups we should ask clifford if he would like to come to the party ... it is more or less on his way anyway ;-)
[15:35] < capchaos> Lorini is still convertable...
[15:35] < fake> that's right
[15:35] < fake> Lorini is an IO
[15:35] < esden> sorry ... not we ask ... you ask ;-)
[15:36] < Lorini> what is an IO?
[15:36] < tcr> IdiOt
[15:36] < blindcoder> Insignificant Other.
[15:36] < tcr> well just expressed in other words .. :P
[15:36] < Lorini> <tcr> IdiOt << hm i guess i wont come :)
[15:38] < fake> Important Other
[15:39] < fake> esden: wow! that was good.
[15:40] < esden> fake: sure ;-)
[15:40] < fake> esden: i am really impressed.
[15:40] < fake> keep that up ;)
[15:41] < esden> fake: will do
[15:41] < fake> kewl.
[16:07] < esden> rofl ... "never stop a running sysop"
[16:09] < esden> ahh ... it says ... "never touch a running sysop" ...
[16:12] < rolla> ;)
[16:12] < rolla> why does cisco stuff have to be so expensive :(
[16:16] < esden> cu all
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[16:44] < fake> was war das denn?
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[16:44] < tcr> -lilo/Wallops- Status note. We've lost a main rotation server for the moment (which means it'll stay out of rotation for some period of time when it returns). We should get another one back late this evening if all goes well.
[16:45] < fake> :(
[16:47] < tcr> :)
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[16:50] < blindcoder> is snyke anywhere reachable?
[16:50] < blindcoder> aah.. forget it... just found it
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[16:56] < rolla> grrr
[16:58] < rolla> okay who remmebers how to do date math?
[17:02] < fake> rolla: funny
[17:02] < fake> rolla: i just now need the same thing
[17:03] < fake> the difference in days between two dates
[17:03] < rolla> yes
[17:03] < rolla> I need to take a date and know what the date was 60 days ago
[17:04] < rolla> haven't done this since collage
[17:04] < rolla> now I must do it in perl without and cool modules :(
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[17:08] < Mike1> moin all
[17:20] < rolla> re
[17:20] < Mike1> hi rolla
[17:21] < capchaos> hey Mike
[17:22] < Mike1> hey capy
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[17:39] < esden> wee wee wee ... curl is working on alpha withowt dropping cores !!!!!
[17:39] < esden> *jumporound*
[17:40] < esden> hehe ... cheetah harddisks have a really cool sound ;-)
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[17:45] < esden> blb
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[18:23] < martin__> hi all
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[18:26] < martin__> I'll compile "BT848 Video For Linux" as modul for a TV Card. But I become an error message. Someone here to help me?
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[18:43] < martin__> Hmm, nobody here? :(
[18:50] < Mike1> martin__: whats the error?
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[19:14] < martin__> ...
[19:14] < martin__> depmod: i2c_smbus_write_byte_data
[19:14] < martin__> depmod: i2c_adapter_id
[19:14] < martin__> depmod: i2c_attach_client
[19:14] < martin__> depmod: i2c_add_driver
[19:14] < martin__> depmod: i2c_register_entry
[19:14] < martin__> make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
[19:14] < martin__> I can't compile the i2c modul ?!
[19:15] < martin__> use a drock 1.6.0 with 2.4.18 kernel
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[19:20] < capchaos> martin__: Unresolved deps?
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[19:28] < martin__> capchaos: what? Hmm, I can't undertand. Sorry
[19:29] < capchaos> martin__: Maybe you have some dependencies that need to be resolve 'cause aren't resolved by the kernel automatically?
[19:31] < martin__> I don't know. I creat first time some moduls. I really not a hacker
[19:32] < th> martin__: what was the commandline u used for build the kernel / modules?
[19:32] < martin__> make menuconfig
[19:33] < th> that was all?
[19:33] < martin__> Yes, I have only change in Multimedia -> V4L -> BT848
[19:34] < th> so you did not build anything
[19:34] < th> you just configured a future build
[19:35] < martin__> For any time Rene (rxr) build a kernel for me. And I'll only crate the modul.
[19:35] < th> but you don not create a module by "menuconfig"
[19:35] < martin__> I use "make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install" zo build the moduls
[19:35] < th> ahhh
[19:36] < th> that's ok
[19:36] < capchaos> (At least for 2.4 *g*)
[19:36] < th> you created a new kernel with it too
[19:36] < th> you need to boot that kernel
[19:36] < th> do something like cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18
[19:36] < th> and enter it in lilo.conf
[19:37] < th> rerun lilo
[19:37] < th> and reboot
[19:37] < martin__> I have build a new Kernel? Ohh, I think, I have only build the modul ...
[19:37] < capchaos> martin__: make bzImage is building a new kernel.
[19:37] < th> make bzImage builds a new kernel
[19:37] < martin__> But it don't compile really!
[19:37] < martin__> ok
[19:37] < th> you didn't compile?
[19:37] < th> i thought you did a "make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install"?
[19:37] < capchaos> martin__: Have you done a depmod -a before?
[19:38] < th> capchaos: modules_install does that for him
[19:38] < capchaos> oh
[19:38] < martin__> It work a long time, then there a messengs like depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm80.o
[19:38] < martin__> and an error: make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
[19:38] < capchaos> Maybe he first needs to do a "make clean". Then "make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install" ?
[19:38] < th> martin__: just copy the new kernel to a location nearby /boot
[19:39] < th> capchaos: he needs to boot that kernel if he wants to use the module
[19:39] < capchaos> Sure :)
[19:39] < martin__> okay, a take my px to 19c3 :)
[19:43] < th> martin__: are you ignoring me?
[19:43] < martin__> th: no. i build it new
[19:44] < martin__> habe I a new kernel, when I become an error?
[19:45] < th> vielleicht sprechen wir lieber deutsch. wird mir zu schwierig, dein englisch zu verstehen ;)
[19:45] < capchaos> martin__: If there's an arch/i386/boot/bzImage, yes :)
[19:46] < martin__> no, sorry. but it compile in this time ...
[19:48] capchaos kann auch Deutsch *g*
[19:48] martin__ ist sein englisch schon sehr peinlich :(
[19:49] < capchaos> martin__: Es ist besser "make clean && make dep && make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install" zu machen afaik.
[19:50] < martin__> capchaos: Ja, ich mach es gerade in der Reinfolge. Habe noch nie wirklich einen Kernel allein bauen muessen.
[19:50] < capchaos> martin__: Das erste Mal ist immer schoen. [tm] *g*
[19:51] < th> ich mach immer dep vor clean
[19:51] < capchaos> Das ist gleich...
[19:51] < martin__> okay, habe aber wieder den gleichen error :(
[19:51] < martin__> Aber ich hab jetzt ein bzImage
[19:52] < martin__> Kann ich nicht einfach das mir fehlende Modul in den aktuellen Kernel reinkompelieren?
[19:52] < th> hast du lilo oder grub im einsatz?
[19:52] < martin__> th: grub
[19:52] < th> martin__: zeig mal deine /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:53] < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock/arch/i386/boot # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[19:53] < martin__> timeout 4
[19:53] < martin__> default 0
[19:53] < martin__> fallback 1
[19:53] < martin__> # color green/blue yellow/red
[19:53] < martin__> color white/black black/white
[19:53] < martin__> title Desktop ROCK Linux
[19:53] < martin__> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-new root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro
[19:53] < martin__> title Windoof 98
[19:53] < martin__> rootnoverify (hd0,2)
[19:53] < martin__> makeaktive
[19:53] < martin__> chainloader +1
[19:53] < martin__> title Desktop ROCK Linux <Rescue>
[19:53] < martin__> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro
[19:53] < martin__> title MemTest86 (SGI memory tester)
[19:53] < martin__> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/memtest86
[19:53] < th> ahja
[19:53] < th> und im moment bootest du immer "Desktop ROCK Linux" nehme ich an?
[19:54] < martin__> ja, ausschliesslich :)
[19:54] < th> und jetzt fuegst du ueber die "title Desktop ROCK Linux" zeile mal folgendes ein
[19:54] < th> title test
[19:54] < th> kernel (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-test root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro
[19:55] < th> und machst ein cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-test
[19:56] < martin__> okay, wir sehen uns gleich wieder?
[19:56] < th> hoffe ich doch ;)
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[20:00] < th> das dauert ja schon ne ganze weile...
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[20:01] < th> ah
[20:01] < martin__> re
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[20:01] < martin__> okay, der kernel funktioniert
[20:01] < th> martin__: und was sagt ein depmod -a
[20:02] < martin__> nur hab ich noch immer kein i2c Modul
[20:02] < martin__> viel
[20:02] < martin__> Janny:~ # depmod -a
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/char/drm/sis.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm1021.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm1024.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm1025.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/adm9240.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/bt869.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/ddcmon.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/ds1621.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/eeprom.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/fscpos.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/fscscy.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/gl518sm.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/gl520sm.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-ali1535.o
[20:02] < th> mach mal ein rm -rf /lib/modules/2.4.18/ und wiederhole das make modules_install
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-ali15x3.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-amd756.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-hydra.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-i801.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-i810.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-isa.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-piix4.o
[20:02] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-sis5595.o
[20:03] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-via.o
[20:03] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-viapro.o
[20:03] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/i2c-voodoo3.o
[20:03] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/it87.o
[20:03] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm75.o
[20:03] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm78.o
[20:03] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/misc/lm80.o
[20:03] < martin__> de
[20:03] < martin__> th: aehm, sicher?
[20:03] < th> ja
[20:03] < capafk> ja
[20:03] < th> das gesamt verzeichnis wird durch make moduels_install angelegt
[20:03] < th> zeig mal ein lsmod
[20:04] < martin__> Janny:~ # lsmod
[20:04] < martin__> Module Size Used by Not tainted
[20:04] < martin__> tuner 8036 0 (unused)
[20:04] < martin__> i2c-core 12768 0 [tuner]
[20:04] < martin__> ipv6 123328 -1 (autoclean)
[20:04] < martin__> 8139too 13728 1 (autoclean)
[20:04] < martin__> mii 1088 0 (autoclean) [8139too]
[20:04] < martin__> stv680 22304 0 (unused)
[20:04] < martin__> videodev 2976 0 [stv680]
[20:04] < martin__> usb-storage 20380 0 (unused)
[20:04] < martin__> scanner 8448 0 (unused)
[20:04] < martin__> printer 5600 0 (unused)
[20:04] < martin__> parport_pc 25256 0 (autoclean)
[20:04] < martin__> parport 22848 0 [parport_pc]
[20:04] < martin__> depmod: sis_malloc_Ra3329ed5
[20:04] < th> HIMMEL
[20:04] < martin__> depmod: sis_free_Rced25333
[20:04] < martin__> make: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1
[20:04] < martin__> letztere war make moduels_install
[20:05] < th> du solltest meinen vertipper doch nicht uebernehmen
[20:05] < martin__> ... ?
[20:05] < th> hast du das realtex modul (8139too) auch in deiner kernel-config?
[20:05] < th> "moduels_install"
[20:06] < th> realtex >> realtek
[20:06] < martin__> ich denk, meine netzwerkkarte?!
[20:06] < th> ja das is die netzwerkkarte
[20:06] < martin__> eine solche benutze ich sicherlich.
[20:06] < martin__> haben wir/ich was falsch gemacht?
[20:07] < th> ich wollte wissen ob du beim menuconfig die realtek auch in der configuration eingestellt hast
[20:07] < th> zeig mal bitte ein cat /proc/cmdline
[20:07] < martin__> root=/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2 ro mem=262128K
[20:08] < martin__> Ich hab da nichts weiter angeklickt. Nur ist die nicht autmatisch von der alten Einstellung uebernommen?
[20:08] < th> moment. hattest du jetzt rm -rf /lib/modules/2.4.18 gemacht?
[20:08] < martin__> ja ... ?!
[20:08] < th> war das eine frage
[20:08] < th> ?
[20:08] < martin__> nein!
[20:08] < martin__> ja, ich hab!
[20:08] < th> gut
[20:08] < martin__> alles okay noch?
[20:09] < th> und modules_install gemacht und depmod meckert immernoch?
[20:09] < martin__> ich habe geloescht, modules_install ggemacht und dann dir depmod gezeigt
[20:09] < martin__> aeh, meine lsmod
[20:10] < th> reboote mal nochmal... aber ich muss erstmal weg. eigentlich sollten die dep-fehler weg sein... seltsam
[20:10] < martin__> mom, jetzt habe ich nur noch eine Zeile. sorry
[20:10] < th> versuchs vllt doch mal auf 19c3
[20:10] < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # depmod -a
[20:10] < martin__> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.18/kernel/drivers/char/drm/sis.o
[20:10] < th> oder spaeter nochmal und ich logge mich mal remote bei dir ein
[20:10] < capafk> martin__: Brauchst du sis.o ueberhaupt?
[20:11] < th> *detach*
[20:11] < martin__> capafk: eine ernsthafte Frage? Was ist das denn?
[20:11] < capafk> bye th
[20:11] < capafk> martin__: mom
[20:11] < capafk> martin__: Was es ist erfaehrst du in der Documentation/
[20:11] < th> vermutlich direct rendering fuer sis-chipsatz
[20:11] < capafk> Jo, hat aber auch ned jeder.
[20:12] < capafk> martin__: Mach mal ein "find /proc |grep sis"
[20:12] < martin__> kein Ergebnis
[20:13] < capafk> martin__: Mach mal ein "dmesg |grep -i sis"
[20:13] < martin__> kein Ergebnis
[20:13] < capafk> Dann brauchst du es nicht.
[20:13] < capafk> Deaktiviere es in make menuconfig.
[20:14] < martin__> capafk: wo zu finden da? weiss du es zufaellig?
[20:14] < capafk> mom
[20:14] < capafk> Character Devices
[20:15] < capafk> unter DRM 4.1 drivers
[20:15] < capafk> SiS
[20:16] < martin__> okay, und jetzt noch mal alles von vorne?
[20:16] < capafk> martin__: Wenn du besser mit deiner Hardware vertraut bist, kannst du noch viel mehr deaktivieren und deinen Kernel schlanker und schneller machen.
[20:16] < capafk> martin__: War es ein M oder * ?
[20:16] < martin__> Aber nicht mehr heute Abend, rxr wollte sowieso die Tage ein rock drauf machen ...
[20:16] < martin__> M = modul, * = fest im Kernel ?!
[20:17] < martin__> !
[20:17] < capafk> Jep.
[20:17] < capafk> "ein rock drauf machen" <- ?
[20:17] < martin__> gibt es denn schon rock 2.0 rc xx ? ich hab nicht ganz zugeoert.
[20:17] < capafk> nein
[20:18] < martin__> Er wollte es noch vor dem 19C3 testen und ich wollte meinen sowieso neu machen.
[20:18] < capafk> Naja, mach halt alles ohne SiS nochmal, wird schon funzen.
[20:18] < capafk> martin__: 19c3 ist ja noch Ewigkeiten hin!
[20:18] < capafk> *g*
[20:18] < martin__> Kann ich eigentlich auch einfach einen Kernel von kernel.org laden und ihn installieren?
[20:18] < capafk> martin__: Ja, sicher. Als source...
[20:19] < capafk> martin__: finger @kernel.org zeigt dir die aktuellen Kernel
[20:19] < capafk> martin__: wget -c https://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.20.tar.bz2 laedt dir den aktuellen Kernel.
[20:20] < martin__> und den koennte ich dann genau so installieren? muesste mir nur die konfiguration vom alten merken?
[20:20] < capafk> Jo, genau.
[20:21] < capafk> Wenn du vorher einen 2.4.x hattest und jetzt einen neueren 2.4.x installieren willst, kannst du einfach die .config rueberkopieren.
[20:21] < martin__> okay, danke. Das werd ich dann wohl am WE mal testen
[20:21] < capafk> und make oldconfig machen
[20:21] < capafk> Es ist bereits WE :)
[20:22] < martin__> muesste ich dann auch den link /usr/src/linux auf meinen neuen kernel machen?
[20:23] < capafk> Nicht unbedingt.
[20:23] < capafk> martin__: Mach mal einen /exec -o uname -a
[20:25] < martin__> was?
[20:26] < capafk> /exec -o uname -a
[20:26] < capafk> Hier im IRC client.
[20:26] < martin__> Linux Janny 2.4.18 #6 Fri Dec 13 18:33:31 CET 2002 i686 unknown
[20:26] < martin__> sag das doch :)
[20:26] < capafk> ;)
[20:26] < capafk> Linux eshaton 2.4.21-pre1 #2 Mit Dez 11 23:36:13 CET 2002 i686 unknown
[20:27] < capafk> Hey, ich reise durch die Zeit *ggg*
[20:27] < martin__> Darf man fragen, woher du bist und ob ich dich hier schon oefters gesehen hab?
[20:28] < martin__> Ohh, Systemzeit einstellen ist unter linux schrecklich, wenn er sie nicht aus dem Internet holt.
[20:28] < capafk> martin__: Von der Erde. Ich weiss nicht ob du mich gesehen hast, meine telepathischen Faehigkeiten reichen nicht ganz aus.
[20:28] < martin__> capafk: lol
[20:28] < martin__> Bist auf dem 19C3 ?
[20:28] < capafk> martin__: Meine Systemzeit ist fuer user ganz normal eingestellt, nur uname rafft's ned.
[20:28] < capafk> capchaos@eshaton:~$ date
[20:28] < capafk> Fre Dez 13 20:28:41 CET 2002
[20:29] < capafk> Ist doch richtig, oder?
[20:29] < martin__> martin@Janny:~ > date
[20:29] < martin__> Fre Dez 13 19:21:11 CET 2002
[20:29] < capafk> hehe
[20:29] < martin__> Ja, deine schon
[20:29] capafk and martin__ are time travellers.
[20:29] martin__ freud sich, dass sein kernel neu ist :)
[20:30] < capafk> martin__: Jetzt weisst du ja wie's geht :)
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[20:30] < capafk> hi tcr
[20:30] < martin__> wieder nach /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.18-test kopieren. oder alten erst loeschen?
[20:30] < capafk> martin__: BTW, ich bin nicht auf dem 19c3, leider.
[20:30] < martin__> capafk: schade, keine Gesichter sehen :(
[20:30] < capafk> martin__: Kopieren sollte ueberschreiben.
[20:31] < capafk> martin__: Aber es kommen die viele von hier dahin.
[20:31] < capafk> -die
[20:31] < tcr> re all
[20:31] capafk ist jetzt aber wirklich afk
[20:32] < martin__> hi tcr
[20:32] < martin__> shutdown -r now
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[20:34] < capone> hi
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[20:40] < martin__> re
[20:41] < capafk> hey capone, re martin__
[20:42] < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # depmod -a
[20:42] < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock #
[20:42] < capafk> martin__: *g*
[20:42] < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # modprobe i2c
[20:42] < martin__> modprobe: Can't locate module i2c
[20:43] < capafk> "Linux is the worst OS ever. But I've not seen a better one."
[20:43] < capafk> martin__: Hm
[20:44] < martin__> capafk: Wollen wir es fuer heute sein lassen?
[20:44] < capafk> martin__: Niemals!
[20:44] < capafk> martin__: Wofuer brauchst du i2c ?
[20:45] < martin__> capafk: Fuer die TV Karte im Rechner ...
[20:45] < capafk> Aso
[20:46] < capafk> martin__: Was sagt grep I2C .config ?
[20:46] < martin__> capafk: https://www.linuxnetmag.com/de/issue5/m5tvkarte1.html z. B. oder google
[20:46] < martin__> Janny:/usr/src/linux-2.4.18-rock # grep I2C .config
[20:46] < martin__> # I2C support
[20:46] < martin__> CONFIG_I2C=m
[20:46] < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=m
[20:46] < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_PHILIPSPAR is not set
[20:46] < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_ELV is not set
[20:46] < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_VELLEMAN is not set
[20:46] < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_ALGOPCF=m
[20:46] < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_ELEKTOR is not set
[20:46] < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=m
[20:46] < martin__> CONFIG_I2C_PROC=m
[20:46] < martin__> # CONFIG_I2C_PARPORT is not set
[20:47] < Mike1> re all
[20:47] < capafk> martin__: Hat das "make modules && make modules_install" einweindfrei gefunzt?
[20:47] < capafk> re Mike1
[20:47] Mike1 wonders if _ALL_ this flood is necesary
[20:47] < capafk> Mike1: Hmm, I guess no.
[20:48] < capafk> martin__: Kannst auch in #Discordia flooden ;)
[20:48] < martin__> capafk: mom Telefon. sorry
[20:49] < Mike1> btw not trying to offend anyone, i just think is _TOO_MUCH_ flood
[20:49] < capafk> Well, yes.
[20:50] < tcr> grep I2C .config | grep -v '^#'
[20:50] < Mike1> but of course is just my opinion and no one else has complaied about it
[20:50] < tcr> hmm actually i don't care much
[20:51] < tcr> still not having my account >_<
[20:51] < Mike1> poor acountless tcr
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[20:58] < blindcod1r> hi hi and rehi
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[21:01] < martin__> capafk: ja (noch immer am Telefon ...)
[21:27] < rolla> Mike
[21:33] < martin__> re
[21:34] < martin__> capafk: ja, make modules && make modules_install funktionierte ohne Fehler
[21:36] < capafk> martin__: Bin mal AFK. Lorini ist da :-)
[21:37] martin__ teste mit neuen Kerneln rum und geht dann mal. Danke capafk!!!
[21:37] < martin__> gn8
[21:38] martin__ is away: I'm busy
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[22:36] < Mike1> re all
[22:36] < Mike1> rolla: did you need to talk to me?
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[22:45] < rolla> not really
[22:45] < rolla> just saying hi
[22:48] < Mike1> oh
[22:49] < Mike1> hi rolla
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[23:53] < Mike1> n8 all
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[23:56] < netcrow> hi rockers ;)
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