-!- Irrsi Log opened Tue Dec 17 00:00:33 2002
[00:13] < th> has anyone in here experience with using untrusted NFS space? (some way of encryption)
[00:14] < tsa> nope.
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[00:16] < esden> ok burning src cd ...
[00:19] < sjefen> say wasn't this a math project?
[00:19] < sjefen> work chan.
[00:28] < esden> sjefen: ?
[00:28] < sjefen> yeah?
[00:30] < sjefen> where are these famous boot disks?
[00:33] < esden> which boot disks do you mean ?
[00:33] < sjefen> found em' :)
[00:37] < sjefen> I've got to install some new hardware.
[00:37] < sjefen> some real high end stuff...
[00:37] < sjefen> Have to reboot...
[00:37] < sjefen> a FLOPPY DRIVE!
[00:37] < sjefen> *difficult*
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[00:43] < th> how to get sources out of a source-rpm?
[00:44] < tsa> hm..install the src.rpm?
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[00:44] < tsa> should give you the sources, patches and a .spec
[00:44] < th> tsa: i really don't want to install a rpm
[00:45] < tsa> th: hm..i see..
[00:45] < esden> hmm ... rock builds happyly in stage 2 now ... /me can go to bed now
[00:45] < tsa> with alien, you can extract contents of a binary rpm, but i don't know about src.rpms ..
[00:45] < esden> th: you can use mc .. it can enter rpm files
[00:46] < esden> then you can normally copy stuff out of it
[00:46] < esden> like out of a tar or tar.gz
[00:47] < sjefen> I hate stuff that only comes in .rpm
[00:47] < esden> sjefen: world is not perfect ;-)
[00:47] < sjefen> *nods*
[00:47] < esden> but we try our best here on rocklinux ;-)
[00:47] < th> esden: thanks
[00:47] < esden> th: denada
[00:48] < esden> ok ... good night everyone
[00:48] < owl> bye,gn8 esden
[00:48] < sjefen> laters esden
[00:50] < th> hmmm that cfsnfs sf-project did nothing but packagin the original source from tgz into srpm...
[00:50] < th> bastards..
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[00:52] < tsa> hehe
[00:53] < sjefen> reboot again. Have to uninstall "the thing".
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[00:57] < rolla_> grr redhat is dumb
[00:59] < sjefen> anyone here cracked a amibios password before?
[01:00] < owl> sjefen: nope. but i guess that i still can remember a "masterpwd"...
[01:01] < sjefen> oh, that would help right now.
[01:01] < sjefen> forgot the pass on my old p90
[01:01] < owl> ok. i guess it was: lkwpeter
[01:01] < owl> or: ami?
[01:01] < sjefen> ami
[01:01] < owl> try different types of writing
[01:02] < owl> yes.. you should type "ami?"
[01:02] < sjefen> it's 6 chars
[01:02] < sjefen> one case only
[01:02] < owl> haeh?
[01:02] < owl> your pwd?
[01:02] < sjefen> remember the input pad in the bios
[01:02] < sjefen> 6 chars max.
[01:02] < owl> urgs...
[01:02] < sjefen> it's waaay old.
[01:03] < owl> it's almost a dead pc...
[01:03] < sjefen> I've had about a zillion passwords in my past...
[01:03] < owl> hm.
[01:04] < sjefen> I remember last time I tried to crack the sucker, I tried to jank the bios chip out of the motherboard. Never in my life heard worse sounds.
[01:04] < owl> let's aks google
[01:04] < sjefen> The chip has grown stuck.
[01:04] < owl> www.pcsupport.dk/support/masterpassword.htm
[01:05] < owl> might you should try them :)
[01:05] < sjefen> hum.
[01:06] < owl> do you have the version number of your bios?
[01:06] < sjefen> gimme sec.
[01:07] < sjefen> no clue. probably version 1 or something :)
[01:07] < owl> urgs
[01:07] < sjefen> it says A772
[01:08] < sjefen> whatever that is.
[01:08] < sjefen> and it's a serial with about 30 numbers...
[01:09] < owl> hm. k.
[01:09] < sjefen> I've cracked it once before. But it's ages ago.
[01:09] < sjefen> I guess I'll just have to think *realy* *hard*
[01:09] < owl> hrhr. but nice to know... it's crackable... jsut to find out how...
[01:09] < sjefen> heh
[01:09] < owl> i guess one solution could be to remove the "backup battery" on the mainbaord...
[01:10] < sjefen> I've gotta try girls names for the last... like... 10 years. *grin*
[01:10] < sjefen> owl: tried that.
[01:10] < owl> damn
[01:10] < owl> jumpers?
[01:10] < sjefen> owl: it's stuck like hell. It's been there for like... many years.
[01:10] < sjefen> everything just makes a crack'y sound when I try to move it.
[01:10] < sjefen> it's like one big living oranism.
[01:10] < owl> ahrg. not so nice
[01:11] < owl> hm. did you try some of the passwords..?
[01:12] < sjefen> yeah, it's a waste. I need something brutal here. Like a shovel or something.. argh
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[01:13] < owl> nonono
[01:13] < sjefen> :)
[01:13] owl = happy, that she isn't sjefen's pc
[01:13] < sjefen> heh
[01:13] < owl> *g* scnr
[01:14] < sjefen> I need a beer to remember this darn' password.
[01:15] < owl> *ouch* "Hol dir den geilsten HACKERTOOLZ virus" << stupid guys
[01:15] < sjefen> yupp. pretty lame.
[01:17] < sjefen> so owl, how long have you been using linux?
[01:18] < owl> uh. can't remember that fact. i'm too stupid to remember
[01:18] < sjefen> heh
[01:19] < sjefen> you always used linux?
[01:19] < owl> nope
[01:19] < sjefen> I've only used linux for like the last 5 years or so.
[01:19] < sjefen> dont remember exactly neither.
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[01:43] < LocalHero> Hello :)
[01:43] < sjefen> olla :)
[01:43] < owl> LocalHero:
[01:43] < owl> haeh? hi LocalHero
[01:43] < owl> irssi, don't cheat me!
[01:45] < LocalHero> Wow, finaly i have started to build 1.6.0pre :)
[01:45] < owl> congrats
[01:45] < LocalHero> Well Tobias Rittweiler mailed me the source :)
[01:46] < owl> hm. k.
[01:46] < LocalHero> Is it possible to start several ./script/Download -base ? I mean, when i have 100mbps connection its usualy the remote server that is slow :)
[01:46] < tsa> yes.
[01:47] < LocalHero> tsa, and there will be no strange "writing the same file" issues
[01:47] < tsa> nope - we're doing some "very basic" file locking
[01:48] < LocalHero> tsa, sounds great :)
[01:48] < LocalHero> I must say that rock 1.5.20 is very stable, cant wait to try 1.6.0pre :)
[01:49] < sjefen> LocalHero : hey know any easy ways to waste a ami bios password?
[01:49] < tsa> open case, put reset jumper on baord?
[01:49] < owl> LocalHero: *g* might you should ask SMP what he thinks about 1.5.20... :P
[01:50] < LocalHero> owl, oki?!? :)
[01:50] < sjefen> tsa : OLD machine.
[01:50] < tsa> ah, i see
[01:50] < sjefen> tsa : jumper = nope. battery = nope. BIOS chip = nope.
[01:50] < owl> ,
[01:50] < owl> aaah.
[01:50] < tsa> open case, put water in - bios password will be reset. (some other things, too)
[01:50] < LocalHero> sjefen, well reseting the cmos data should do it. In other case you could alvays use another computer and burn antoher bios into it
[01:51] < sjefen> hehe
[01:52] < LocalHero> sjefen, you can find some crack utilites at https://astalavista.box.sk/
[01:52] < sjefen> hehe
[01:52] < sjefen> redirecting me to oldskool box.sk :)
[01:52] < sjefen> I think I'll just get my hammer.
[01:52] < LocalHero> sjefen, its a very anoying site with lots of popups but if you search for a while you should get it
[01:53] < sjefen> LocalHero : I've found many neat programs at astalavista yeah :)
[01:53] < LocalHero> sjefen, nobody works?
[01:53] < LocalHero> Whats the motherboard model?
[01:53] < sjefen> LocalHero : haven't started there yet'.
[01:54] < LocalHero> searching for ami password gives a few hits
[01:54] < sjefen> it's too brutal.
[01:54] < sjefen> the 'generic ones' have been tried, but that ain't the way.
[01:54] < sjefen> I'm going in with a screwdriver and try to unjam stuff soon :)
[01:56] < LocalHero> Well then the screwdriver should do the trick :)
[01:56] < sjefen> think so :)
[01:56] < sjefen> I've tried before, but the motherboard makes noises of death when I try.
[01:56] < sjefen> but this time, I will be merciless.
[01:57] < sjefen> I'll bend on that BIOS chip till it breakes.
[01:57] owl wants to be this "almost dead motherboard"
[01:57] < tsa> owl: you want to be broken, then? ;)
[01:57] < owl> tsa: nope. to be dead..
[01:57] < sjefen> well, I bet I can jumpstart this sucker :)
[02:00] < LocalHero> have you tried to flash the bios or remove the batery?
[02:01] < sjefen> LocalHero : the battery is stuck (been the same place for 10 years or so) but I'm going for the bios chip now.
[02:04] < LocalHero> sjefen, well the bios chip wont help you. Its a flash ship so it doesnt need power. If you have an old one its not even flash. Its eeprom
[02:04] < LocalHero> Check the bios reset jumper
[02:04] < LocalHero> Whats the model of the motherboard
[02:05] < sjefen> working on it..
[02:07] < sjefen> pentium SI2? It's got a SIS 85C50(1-3) chipset
[02:15] < LocalHero> sjefen, oki, no other information?
[02:15] < LocalHero> like company ?
[02:15] < sjefen> hmm.
[02:16] < sjefen> well
[02:16] < sjefen> it's made in taiwan :)
[02:16] < owl> *lol* like 99.9 % (or so) of motherboards
[02:16] < sjefen> hehe
[02:17] < LocalHero> hehe :)
[02:17] < sjefen> working on it.
[02:18] < LocalHero> Oki, what does the bios say when you start up?
[02:18] < sjefen> it sais here in the mb that is has 'special 5/3.3v mixed sram' hehe
[02:18] < sjefen> AT the mb even.
[02:20] < LocalHero> hmm, oki, there is nothing writen betwean the pci buses, like gigabyte has GA-34x or something like that
[02:21] < sjefen> MS 5109
[02:21] < sjefen> and that is a.
[02:21] < sjefen> MSI
[02:21] < sjefen> :)
[02:22] < sjefen> nope, that is MS: 5109
[02:22] < LocalHero> wow, fantastic :)
[02:22] < sjefen> and VER:1.3
[02:22] < sjefen> hehe
[02:22] < LocalHero> thats an msi after all :)
[02:23] < sjefen> you sure?
[02:24] < LocalHero> I found the manual :)
[02:25] < LocalHero> https://www.motherboards.org/manuals/p/MSI-MS-5109/1992.html
[02:25] < sjefen> mohaha, and I've janked the AMIKEY chip out :)
[02:25] < LocalHero> arrgh, what have you done?
[02:25] < sjefen> hehe :)
[02:26] < sjefen> it's a removable one.
[02:26] < sjefen> but I don't remember what way it was. hope the webpage say something :)
[02:27] < LocalHero> sjefen, there is usualy marks that tell :)
[02:27] < LocalHero> look for a mark on the chip and one on the socket
[02:28] < sjefen> LocalHero : hey, it's old, I've dropped things. It's lots of marks :)
[02:28] < th> can someone explain bash-syntax "${1:-18}" to me please?
[02:29] < LocalHero> Well, need some sleep, cya all
[02:29] < sjefen> LocalHero : thanks :)
[02:29] < sjefen> laters LocalHero
[02:29] < owl> bye LocalHero
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[03:03] < tsa> n8
[03:03] < sjefen> laters tsa
[03:03] < tsa> cya sjefen
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[03:07] < sjefen> nite all.
[03:08] < sjefen> heh, yeah, that's probably only me :)
[03:08] < sjefen> anyways.
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[03:34] < rolla_> anyone here know alot about DNS?
[03:38] < th> hmm ack
[03:39] < th> rolla_: what's your problem?
[03:41] < rolla_> I need to know how to register a DNS server for a domain
[03:42] < th> using a NS record
[03:42] < rolla_> ?
[03:42] < th> is it a subdomain?
[03:43] < rolla_> no
[03:43] < rolla_> top level
[03:43] < rolla_> maisenhelder.net
[03:44] < th> so you need to do this at you domain-registrar. because a NS record must be set on .net DNS-server
[03:44] < th> s,you,your,
[03:45] < rolla_> hmm
[03:45] < th> did you ever register a domain?
[03:45] < rolla_> yes I registered it throught a website
[03:45] < th> and did you enter a NS-server there?
[03:46] < th> Maryland Heights, MO 63043?
[03:46] < rolla_> no I used theirs
[03:46] < rolla_> cause I didn't have the static ips yet
[03:46] < th> so you should be able to set NS-servers through that website.
[03:46] < th> otherwise you should change the registrar
[03:47] < rolla_> yeah I tried that they sent me this message
[03:47] < rolla_> This usually means that the nameserver is not a registered nameserver. You +need to go the registrar for that nameserver and register it.
[03:47] < th> could you bounce that to th@rocklinux.de?
[03:48] < rolla_> bonuce what? the email?
[03:48] < th> yes
[03:48] < rolla_> sure
[03:49] < rolla_> sent
[03:49] < th> receipt
[03:50] < rolla_> they don't say much
[03:50] < owl> gn8
[03:50] < th> what did you ask them?
[03:50] < th> n8 owl
[03:51] < th> rolla_: did you try to setup a nameserver and they refused to "use" it for the domain?
[03:52] < rolla_> I told them that I tried to change the DNS servers on the site but it told me Unable to add nameserver: Command failed: unable to verify existence of nameserver frisbee.maisenhelder.net
[03:52] < rolla_> they have some script that spits that out
[03:52] < th> well.
[03:53] < rolla_> yeah
[03:53] < th> frisbee.maisenhelder.net does not answer queries
[03:53] < rolla_> ?
[03:53] < th> the name-server does not seem to be running
[03:53] < th> dig maisenhelder.net @frisbee.maisenhelder.net SOA
[03:53] < th> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[03:54] < th> did you start the name-server?
[03:54] < rolla_> yeah I am looking at the now :(
[03:56] < th> and "adding a nameserver" is somewhat confusing. you can add a slaving nameserver. but there can only be exactly one primary (or master) name-serverf
[03:56] < rolla_> try is now
[03:56] < th> and i think you want to add a primary server
[03:56] < th> looks better
[03:56] < th> but...
[03:56] < rolla_> yeah I think I got the primary part right
[03:56] < th> SOA is sorta unacceptable
[03:56] < th> maisenhelder.net. 7200 IN SOA 66.136.183.235. dnsadmin.dnsvr.com. 1031575337 14400 7200 950400 7200
[03:57] < th> don't use the IP there
[03:57] < rolla_> ?
[03:57] < th> use a name instead of the IP
[03:57] < rolla_> okay
[03:58] < th> and change the serial (1031575337) to something in YYYYMMDDXX format
[03:58] < rolla_> I think that is from there server
[03:58] < th> and times seem to be too small
[03:59] < th> hmm
[03:59] < rolla_> try that
[03:59] < th> frisbee.maisenhelder.net seems to be already added as dns-server
[03:59] < th> hmm
[03:59] < rolla_> yeah I got it added as a server but I am not sure if it is the master
[04:00] < th> yes it is
[04:00] < th> at least with respect to the SOA
[04:00] < th> you can check that by chaning something
[04:00] < th> increasing serial and SIGHUPping named
[04:00] < th> and querieng ns1.domainmonger.com after that
[04:01] < rolla_> okay
[04:02] < th> do you have two SOA records in that zone?
[04:03] < rolla_> ?
[04:04] < th> mail me the zone-file please
[04:04] < rolla_> which one
[04:05] < th> maisenhelder.net
[04:05] < th> we are only talking of that one
[04:05] < rolla_> send
[04:07] < th> hmmm it's different from what your name-server says
[04:07] < th> is it entered correctly in named.conf?
[04:08] < th> send me your named.conf please
[04:10] < rolla_> send
[04:10] < th> zone "maisenhe.net" in {
[04:10] < th> thought you want to server maisenhelder.net
[04:11] < th> s,server,serve,
[04:12] < rolla_> yeah
[04:12] < th> so you should correct that
[04:12] < rolla_> cr@p
[04:13] < rolla_> done
[04:13] < th> server restarted?
[04:13] < th> or at leaste HUPed?
[04:13] < th> s,ste,st,
[04:13] < rolla_> yes
[04:13] < th> strange
[04:13] < th> something went wrong
[04:14] < rolla_> yes
[04:14] < rolla_> I get servfail
[04:15] < th> did you allow queries?
[04:15] < th> hmm seems so
[04:16] < th> run a check-zone and check-config please
[04:16] < rolla_> okay
[04:17] < th> and i think you should insert a newline and @ before first IN
[04:17] < th> yes i think that's it
[04:17] < th> start with:
[04:17] < th> $ORIGIN maisenhelder.net.
[04:17] < th> and on 2nd line: @ IN SOA ...
[04:17] < th> or i prefer @ 1D IN SOA ...
[04:18] < rolla_> dns_master_load: /var/named/maisenhelder.db:7: No current owner name
[04:18] < th> yea
[04:18] < th> insert that @
[04:19] < th> i sent you a reply
[04:20] < rolla_> where did you send email?
[04:20] < th> From: maisenhe@frisbee.maisenhelder.net
[04:20] < th> i replied
[04:20] < rolla_> that will not do :(
[04:21] < rolla_> try joel@maisenhelder.net
[04:21] < th> gimme another addr
[04:21] < th> Message bounced.
[04:21] < rolla_> ?
[04:21] < rolla_> the one to joel@maisenhelder.net ?
[04:21] < th> i bounced the message i first sent to maisenhe@frisbee.maisenhelder.net to joel@maisenhelder.net
[04:22] < rolla_> master.c:1172: dns_master_load: /var/named/maisenhelder.db:2: no TTL specified. THIS ZONE WILL NO LONGER WORK IN FUTURE VERSIONS. Add a TTL.
[04:22] < th> add a 1D after the @
[04:23] < rolla_> dns_master_load: /var/named/maisenhelder.db:10: ignoring out-of-zone data
[04:23] < th> did you correct the named.conf?
[04:23] < rolla_> yes
[04:23] < rolla_> zone "maisenhelder.net" in {
[04:23] < rolla_> type master;
[04:23] < rolla_> file "maisenhelder.db";
[04:23] < rolla_> notify yes;
[04:23] < rolla_> };
[04:24] < th> aehm
[04:24] < th> test without the last 4 cnames please
[04:24] < th> comment 'em out
[04:25] < rolla_> stil errors :(
[04:25] < th> but looks better now
[04:25] < th> mail or paste the errors
[04:25] < th> remove the .maisenhelder.net. from cnames and you can readd them
[04:26] < th> don't forget to always increase serial when changing something
[04:26] < rolla_> okay
[04:26] < rolla_> sent
[04:27] < th> and the whole zone again please
[04:27] < th> aehm
[04:27] < th> no
[04:28] < rolla_> ?
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[04:28] < th> you are using named-checkzone incorrectly
[04:28] < rolla_> ack so?
[04:28] < th> usage: named-checkzone [-dq] [-c class] zone [filename]
[04:28] < th> should be "named-checkzone maisenhelder.net maisenhelder.db"
[04:28] < rolla_> I am dumb
[04:29] < th> i'd rename maisenhelder.db to maisenhelder.net makes things easier
[04:29] < rolla_> nod
[04:29] < th> ok your named seems to be serving correctly
[04:29] < rolla_> :)
[04:29] < th> do you still need slaving from domainmonger.com?
[04:29] < rolla_> thank you very much
[04:30] < rolla_> I am not sure
[04:30] < th> if so you should add NS records for them
[04:30] < th> and establish slaving
[04:30] < rolla_> ah so
[04:30] < th> currently they don't slave.
[04:30] < rolla_> in the maisenhelder.db file ?
[04:30] < th> yes
[04:30] < th> and after all you should sync the NS-list with your registrar
[04:31] < rolla_> :)
[04:31] < rolla_> should there be NS lines in the db.66.136.183 file ?
[04:32] < th> i think you won't get reverse-delegation for that
[04:32] < rolla_> ?
[04:32] < th> and db.66.136.183 is useless at all without an entry in named.conf
[04:32] < rolla_> cr@p
[04:33] < th> are you sure you are able to set dns-server for 233.183.136.66.in-addr.arpa?
[04:33] < th> (... to point to your server)
[04:33] < rolla_> no
[04:34] < th> would be an issue you need to discuss with your provider
[04:34] < th> and i think they wont allow you to be the nameserver for it
[04:34] < rolla_> yeah
[04:34] < rolla_> very true
[04:34] < rolla_> one more question
[04:35] < rolla_> I want to resolve maisenhelder.net to an ip address
[04:35] < rolla_> how do I add that as an alias ?
[04:36] < th> just add 1D IN A Your_IP_Here below the 2nd NS line
[04:36] < th> as an alias?
[04:36] < th> alias as in "cname"?
[04:36] < rolla_> yes
[04:37] < th> you really do not want maisenhelder.net to be a CNAME
[04:37] < th> you just want a A-record on maisenhelder.net to point to your IP
[04:37] < rolla_> yes
[04:38] < th> 04:36:14 < th> just add 1D IN A Your_IP_Here below the 2nd NS line
[04:38] < th> exactly taht way
[04:38] < rolla_> okay
[04:38] < rolla_> sweet
[04:38] < th> well you added ns1.domainmonger.com but they still do not slave
[04:39] < th> you need to make them use your server as master and just slave
[04:39] < rolla_> yeah I think I must wait for an email from them
[04:39] < rolla_> yup
[04:39] < th> ok
[04:39] < th> time for bed now...
[04:39] < th> it's almost 05:00 AM
[04:40] < rolla_> bye
[04:40] < th> (i always sleep well after zone-file crash-curses ;) )
[04:41] < rolla_> :)
[04:42] < th> gn8
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[07:16] < aszlig> moin
[07:46] < blindcoder> moin
[07:49] < blindcoder> hmm... I'm somehow sure that I do something really wrong...
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[10:10] < esden> morning
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[10:32] < aszlig> 'lo esden
[10:48] < esden> cu all
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[12:19] < mjm_> hi.
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[12:51] < esden> mjm ??? who was that ...
[12:57] < esden> wee my cd burner is working once again ! ;-)
[13:06] < owl_> moin
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[13:38] < esden> yo ... new kernel for the sunfire is now building ...
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[14:22] < esden> hi Lorini !!! *hug*
[14:22] < Lorini> hi esden
[14:24] < esden> na endlich wird es waermer in meinem zimmer ...
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[14:35] tcr hails all
[14:37] < rolla> re
[14:41] < esden> hi tcr
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[14:41] < esden> hi rolla
[14:41] esden testing bochs
[14:41] < esden> it seems to be pretty usable
[14:42] < rolla> :)
[14:43] < rolla> I have my two alpha servers up running linux now :)
[14:44] < esden> rolla: good !!
[14:45] < rolla> yeah they are my DNS servers :)
[14:46] < rolla> and once rock can work on alpha they will be rocked
[14:46] < esden> rolla: yo ... I will give my best ...
[14:50] < rolla> :)
[14:52] < blindcoder> rehi
[14:56] < pjotrp> Anyone want to give 1.6.0pre1 a try?
[14:57] < blindcoder> If you have a Sparc32 ISO I could really use it :)
[14:57] < pjotrp> soure tar ball
[14:57] < pjotrp> source
[14:58] < pjotrp> Not been tested on SPARC yet
[15:00] < blindcoder> hmm... where can I get it?
[15:01] < blindcoder> hmm... I gotta go...
[15:01] < blindcoder> sorry
[15:01] < blindcoder> see you
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[15:08] < rolla> pjotrp you mean compile ?
[15:08] < pjotrp> yeah
[15:09] < pjotrp> it is a peek preview of the pre version ;-)
[15:09] < rolla> I am working on that right now :)
[15:09] < rolla> I need to finish the downloads of the sources
[15:09] < pjotrp> Did you get the 1.6 tarball?
[15:09] < rolla> got it from Mike
[15:10] < rolla> but I will take whatever you have aswell :)
[15:13] < owl> re
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[15:14] < gnupg> Hi all
[15:15] < owl> hi gnupg
[15:15] < tcr> moin
[15:16] gnupg likes CVS
[15:17] tcr is beginning to like it, well kind of
[15:18] < esden> hi gnupg
[15:19] < esden> argh qt needs an eternity to build
[15:20] < gnupg> Wie komme ich an drock 1.6.1 ran?
[15:20] < rolla> qt sucks how long for you esden?
[15:20] < esden> == 14:11:14 =[5]=> Building kde-30/qt-30 [3.0.6 1.7-snapshot].
[15:20] < esden> and has not finished yet ...
[15:22] < rolla> it takes me 3 and 1/2 hours to 4 to build qt :(
[15:23] gnupg likes compilercache
[15:23] < rolla> compilercache?
[15:24] < gnupg> rolla - have a look at https://www.erikyyy.de/compilercache/
[15:27] < esden> gnupg: is it working ?
[15:28] < gnupg> esden - yes, i compiled my kernel with it.
[15:29] < gnupg> esden - bis du auch in #debian aktiv?
[15:29] < esden> hmm ... I will test it when I finally start working on the uClibc target
[15:29] < esden> gnupg: noe ... ich bin ein ueberzeugter rocklinuxer seid mehreren jahren ... lasse dich nicht von dem weasel verwirren ;-)
[15:29] < gnupg> esden - do you know dietlibc?
[15:30] < esden> gnupg: yes ... I made the dietlibc target in rocklinux ;-)
[15:30] < gnupg> esden - i guess, you had a lot of fun... :)
[15:30] < esden> and lost a lot of my helth on it ;-)
[15:31] < esden> and sleep too ;-)
[15:31] < gnupg> lol
[15:32] < gnupg> is mit dem cvs server was nicht in ordnung?
[15:32] < esden> gnupg: mit welchem ?
[15:33] < gnupg> esden - anoncvs.rocklinux.de
[15:33] < tcr> wieso?
[15:33] < esden> ach das ist 1.5 ... da habe ich nichts damit zu tun ... und weiss es nicht ...
[15:33] < esden> aber der sollte in ordnung sein
[15:35] < gnupg> der macht bei mir nach rock-1.5/subdists/user-mode-linux/syscon schluss.
[15:36] < gnupg> Krieg ich eigentlich auch drock von cvs?
[15:36] < gnupg> esden - wie viele habt ihr den?
[15:37] < tcr> gnupg: und was soll daran so unnormal sein ???
[15:38] < gnupg> tcr - waere das checkout danach fertig, wuerde müsste ich nicht Ctrl-C drücken, dass muss ich leider.
[15:39] < gnupg> s/wuerde//
[15:39] < tcr> nein, einfach ein wenig warten
[15:39] < gnupg> tcr - ein wenig?
[15:39] < tcr> ich weiß auch nicht was der da am ende macht, aber das dauert bei mir auch manchmal ein wenig länger
[15:40] < esden> gnupg: zwei ... einen fuer 1.7 und einen fuer 1.5
[15:40] < esden> das sind zwei trees
[15:40] < tcr> haste du denn mal auf den prozesstatus geguckt?
[15:40] < tcr> glaube kaum, dass er defunced oder sleeped war
[15:41] < gnupg> tcr - der schläft.
[15:42] < gnupg> Ist gnome 2.0 in rock-1.7?
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[15:45] < Mike1> moin all
[15:46] < rolla> re Mike1
[15:46] < rolla> my DNS is up :)
[15:46] < owl> hi Mike1
[15:46] < Mike1> pjotrp: make the release
[15:46] < Mike1> rolla great
[15:47] < rolla> yeah i needed help from th last night to get it going
[15:47] < Mike1> m...
[15:50] < tcr> gnupg: ps -p<PID> -o pid,tt,user,fname,tmout,f,wchan
[15:51] < gnupg> tcr - zu spät... jetzt versuche ich es mit 1.7
[15:51] < tcr> viel spaß
[15:52] < gnupg> :-D
[15:52] < tcr> hi Mike1
[15:53] < esden> hi Mike1 !
[15:54] tcr is listening to Die Apokalyptischren Reiter - Erhelle Meine Seele
[15:56] gnupg ponders
[15:56] < gnupg> Noch jemand aus Hamburg hier?
[15:58] < pjotrp> Don't understand German
[15:58] < pjotrp> ;-)
[15:58] < rolla> neither do I :)
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[16:00] < Mike1> moin Satg
[16:00] < Satg> hello people
[16:00] < Satg> Hola Mike
[16:00] < tcr> moin
[16:08] gnupg rofls
[16:13] < gnupg> Ihr scheint e4in ähnliches prinzip wie gentoo zu haben.
[16:14] < tcr> hm. well
[16:14] < Mike1> export LANG=en_UK
[16:15] < esden> Mike1: he said that we have a simmilar system to gentoo
[16:15] < tcr> gnupg: that only seems so because both are source distributions
[16:15] < esden> gnupg: I would not say something like this here ;-)
[16:15] < Mike1> esden: i know
[16:15] < esden> tcr: ack
[16:16] < Mike1> esden: but i am trying to be polite with the ones that will not understand german
[16:16] < esden> gnupg: rocklinux is a distribution build kit ... and gentoo is a source distribution
[16:16] < esden> that is a very big difference
[16:16] < esden> rocklinux could also contain gentoo as a part ...
[16:18] < esden> Mike1: yo ... you are right
[16:23] < gnupg> What's the difference between gawk an any other awk expect the license?
[16:23] < gnupg> My english is a bit partial.
[16:23] < tcr> info gawk
[16:23] < tcr> there is a historical section
[16:27] < tcr> pjotrp: i'm not familiar with install discs and such stuff, otherwise i'd take care bout them :/
[16:28] < gnupg> How much space i need to build rocklinux 1.7? (Are 4GByte enough?)
[16:30] < esden> gnupg: yes it should be enough
[16:33] < esden> gnupg: you need for the sources 1.2GB
[16:33] < esden> and for the build ...
[16:36] < esden> something about 4 GB should be enough
[16:37] < aszlig> rehi
[16:37] < Mike1> re aszlig
[16:37] < esden> hi aszlig
[16:37] < Mike1> ROCK - 1.6.0pre1 has been released
[16:38] < esden> uh oh ... interesting ...
[16:38] < gnupg> Mike1 - hah?
[16:38] < Mike1> gnupg: its the current stable tree
[16:39] < gnupg> Mike1 - but without the pre1.
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[16:39] < Mike1> gnupg: not yet
[16:39] < Mike1> gnupg: this is a test release
[16:39] < Mike1> one more test release left before stable
[16:40] < gnupg> I saw drock 1.6.1-rc1 at https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/src
[16:40] < esden> Mike1: you mean "stable"
[16:40] < Mike1> esden: yes
[16:40] < Mike1> gnupg: dROCK != ROCK
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[16:41] < esden> stable as in : works for huebi ...
[16:41] < gnupg> Mike1 - i know!
[16:41] < Mike1> esden: stable as in words of PJ and i
[16:41] < pjotrp> tested
[16:41] < esden> Mike1: I will test the release for sure ...
[16:42] < esden> pjotrp: good
[16:42] < Mike1> esdy we would really apreciate it thanks
[16:42] < esden> pjotrp, Mike1: I hope you guys will prove my prejudices as being wrong ...
[16:43] < Mike1> esden: yeah :)
[16:45] < Mike1> by the way regarding the SCSI thingy i think we should have this fixed
[16:45] < Mike1> and not just throw it away
[16:46] < esden> pjotrp: "If people get nasty just ask them to contribute instead of whining.
[16:46] < esden> " well said ;-)
[16:47] < esden> Mike1: yo
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[17:00] < tcr> hmm .. pjotrp ?? I ask me how Build-Pkg can ever branch to the the last else of the script (that one printing the `Aborted building package' msg) at all. It will only abort (according to the source) if $root/var/adm/logs/$logpf-$pkg.log does _not_ exist. So far so good, but some lines above (in the big {} that's respoinsible for the compilation) there is a line "touch $root/var/adm/logs/$logpf-$pkg.log" that is _always_ executed (yeah i know,
[17:00] < tcr> I have recognized the set -e, but that exists the whole script at once, and not only the code in the {}s). Have you any clue about this?
[17:03] < tcr> pjotrp: ooh, i got it mysefl ;0) .. it starts a subprocess, so the it won't actually exit the whole script
[17:04] < th> re
[17:05] < Mike1> moin th
[17:05] < th> hi Mike1
[17:07] < Mike1> th: i agree with you on no having gpm disabled by default
[17:12] < owl> and "wech" bye... (dentist
[17:13] < pjotrp> yes, the build uses the shell trap for that
[17:13] < pjotrp> basic exception handling ;-)
[17:14] < tcr> yeah, i havent seen that it's piped to another code block, which fact makes it to a subprocess :)
[17:15] < th> pjotrp: where should i commit changes to fix the mouse (gpm) problem?
[17:16] < Mike1> th: regular 1.5 repository
[17:16] < Mike1> th: as 1.6.0pre1 is out
[17:16] < th> ok. so pre1-branch is frozen now?
[17:16] < Mike1> th: ack
[17:16] < th> affirmed.
[17:18] < pjotrp> I'll do a merge later this week and we will rename the repository module to rock-1.6
[17:19] < th> ok
[17:19] < Mike1> pjotrp: why not today ? *gg*
[17:20] < pjotrp> need to do some other work
[17:20] < Mike1> ok :)
[17:21] < pjotrp> Anyone feel up to it can do it - not really difficult. Just may need to resolve a few conflicts
[17:21] < pjotrp> See CVS manuals
[17:25] < fake> wee!
[17:25] < fake> <- will get a donation from SUN
[17:25] < fake> a cobalt raq2 (mips)
[17:25] < fake> *jumparound)
[17:26] < esden> congrats fake
[17:26] < Mike1> fake: htf did you get the donation? i have been looking for it for long time
[17:26] < esden> Mike1: he is having a lot of luck in the last time ;-)
[17:27] < esden> tons of it ;-)
[17:27] < Mike1> godd thing
[17:27] < Mike1> good even
[17:28] < esden> Mike1: yes you are right. At least some people have luck ;-)
[17:28] < esden> that is good to know ;-)
[17:29] < esden> hmm ... gt-30 ... 2 hours compile time ...
[17:29] < esden> not gt >_<
[17:29] < esden> qt !
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[17:37] < esden> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-athlon-tbird-generic-expert:
[17:37] < esden> 1174 builds total, 409 completed fine, 24 with errors.
[17:42] esden is asking himself how many people are subscribed to the rlml
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[18:17] < aszlig> rehi blindcoder?
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[18:24] < aszlig> 'lo gnupg
[18:25] < gnupg> Da bin ich wider
[18:27] < gnupg> Wie kann ich das downloaden und kompilieren von kde 3.1 abschalten?
[18:27] < aszlig> dunno, never used it...
[18:33] < gnupg> Kann mir keiner helfen :-((
[18:33] < aszlig> sorry, please ask your question in egnglish again..
[18:36] < tcr> gnupg: what about disabling it?
[18:36] tcr brb
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[18:40] < tcr> Mike1: ping
[18:40] < Mike1> pong
[18:43] < tcr> Mike1: i'm currently adding the new gcc protector patch (dimitar pointed to it recently) to 1.6 -- will need anyone to perform a test build (my development box is a p-mmx 200mhz, would be a pain in the ass 8))
[18:43] < Mike1> tcr: adding it to ur own tree or to cvs?
[18:44] < tcr> talked to pjotr about this, we agreed in adding it to 1.6 only if it obviously breaks any pkgs
[18:45] < tcr> er, if it doesnt break ;)
[18:45] < Mike1> i have a Dual athlon xp 2.0ghz so it will not be a pain :)
[18:45] < tcr> hm, ok will send a patch to the hackers list
[18:45] < Mike1> thanks
[18:49] < gnupg> tcr - how to disable it?
[18:50] < gnupg> How to disable d/loading building kde 3.1?
[18:51] < gnupg> Were's Crusoe missing in ARchitecture menu.
[18:51] < tcr> gnupg: we are talking about 1.7, right?
[18:52] < gnupg> tcr - yes
[18:52] < tcr> please take a look at the Config script (./scripts/Config?), and choose an option named à la "For experts only" (or something similiar), there is an additional option where you can choose pkgs
[19:06] < owl> re
[19:07] < gnupg> tcr - i did "Additional Package Selections -> Custom Package Selections" and added "- kde-31", "- gnome-14" under the topic ",----< Package selection rules >----.", but nothing changed. (./scripts/Download -all is still downloading erverything)
[19:10] < gnupg> tcr - any idea?
[19:10] < tcr> hm. well Download -all is probably supposed to do so. I'm not familiar to 1.7 to be able to say how you should invoke Download .. Mike1? esden? fake?
[19:11] < gnupg> tcr - so you're using 1.5, aren't you?
[19:11] < tcr> jap
[19:15] < gnupg> esden - are you able to help me?
[19:15] < Mike1> tcr: on 1.7 you can dowload all packages with scripts/Download -all
[19:15] < tcr> Mike1: no, he just wants to download the choosen pkgs
[19:15] < Mike1> gnupg: tcr but all you want / need to download for building is fetched with scripts/Download -required
[19:16] < Mike1> tcr: the package sselectiong is done while running scripts/Config
[19:16] < Mike1> then simply run srcipts/Download -required
[19:16] < Mike1> that will do it
[19:16] < tcr> ok, thats what he wanted to know :)
[19:16] < gnupg> thanks Mike
[19:17] < Mike1> gnupg: you are welcome
[19:17] Mike1 back to work
[19:17] < tcr> have phun
[19:18] gnupg whishes Mike1 a lot of fun
[19:19] gnupg likes A-DSL (but S-DSL would be better)
[19:33] gnupg is jump'n'running
[19:33] < gnupg> PnP - Plug and Pray
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[19:49] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[19:50] < Mike1> hi blindy
[19:50] < owl> hi blindcoder
[19:51] < blindcoder> hi Mike1 !
[19:51] < blindcoder> hi owly !
[19:57] < aszlig> rehi
[19:57] < aszlig> 'lo blindcoder
[19:59] < owl> hi aszlig
[19:59] < owl> did you ask katharina and/or christoph about their mobile phone numbers?
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[20:00] < gnupg> ich komme wieder keine frage.
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[20:05] < bishophome> hi can someone say me where i can get summit v2.2 DX Platinum?
[20:06] < blindcoder> what's that?
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[20:06] < bishophome> a driver for ati
[20:07] < blindcoder> sorry, no idea
[20:07] < bishophome> i have fucking probs with my ati radeon 8500
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[20:17] < tcr> Mike1: will send the patch in some minutes
[20:59] < rolla> == 13:50:32 =[2]=> Building base package perl5 [5.8.0 1.6.0pre1].
[21:05] < rolla> anyone alive?
[21:06] < tcr> ja
[21:09] < rolla> gute
[21:09] < rolla> == 14:08:45 =[2]=> Building base package groff [1.17.2 1.6.0pre1].
[21:09] < rolla> the slow march of the 1.6.0pre1 build
[21:09] < tcr> hehe :) but seems to be good so far.. that's fine
[21:10] < Mike1> ...
[21:10] < Mike1> re all
[21:10] < rolla> re Mike
[21:10] < rolla> yeah the build is going very well :)
[21:11] < tcr> ah Mike1 :) the patch have been delaying :/
[21:11] < tcr> has even
[21:11] < Mike1> rolla i need to run a build but have been unable because a patch has not arrived to me
[21:11] < Mike1> !!!
[21:11] < rolla> :)
[21:12] < tcr> do you mean mine patch?
[21:12] < Mike1> tcr: of course :)
[21:12] < tcr> okok, just creating the diffs
[21:12] < Mike1> tcr: no worries
[21:12] < Mike1> i just moved it 4 lines below my TODO list
[21:16] < rolla> == 14:16:35 =[2]=> Building base package util-linux [2.11w 1.6.0pre1].
[21:16] blindcoder in now going to end this fscking day
[21:16] < Mike1> blindcoder: bad day
[21:16] < Mike1> ?
[21:16] < blindcoder> maye I don't need to get up tomorrow... oh well...
[21:16] < blindcoder> good n8
[21:17] < Mike1> oyasumi nasai blindcoder
[21:17] < blindcoder> Mike1: not today... I'll tell you some other day...
[21:17] < blindcoder> oyasumi, Mike-san!
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[21:26] < Mike1> hi netcrow
[21:27] < tcr> arghs Mike1 lol! damn, i forgot to add one line :/
[21:29] < tcr> hm
[21:34] < tcr> Mike1: sent
[21:40] < netcrow> hi
[21:40] < owl> hi netcrow
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[21:58] < tcr> moin sjefen
[21:58] < sjefen> hello.
[21:58] < sjefen> this is my first install of rock :)
[21:59] < sjefen> feels great :)
[22:05] < rolla> :)
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[22:13] < rolla> == 15:11:59 =[3]=> Building base package binutils [2.13.90.0.10 1.6.0pre1].
[22:13] < rolla> rock on
[22:13] < esden> hmm ... interesting ... how many days do I need to build 1.7 ? >_<
[22:13] < esden> that sucks !
[22:17] < sjefen> what's the diffrence between 1.7 and 1.5?
[22:17] < sjefen> doesn't both download up to date packages and compile them?
[22:18] < tcr> yap
[22:19] < sjefen> so what is the diffrence?
[22:20] < tcr> 1.7 is development, 1.6 stable -- 1.7 have got plenty new and interesting features, rewrites etc. but needs manually tweaking on many places
[22:20] < tcr> s,have,has,
[22:21] < sjefen> features like what?
[22:22] < Mike1> hi Lorini
[22:22] < Mike1> hi sjefen
[22:22] < Lorini> hi mike :))
[22:22] < sjefen> hello Mike1
[22:22] < sjefen> Mike1 : got my first rockl up and running :)
[22:23] Mike1 feels very glad to hear the nordish lands are finally rocked
[22:23] < sjefen> hehe :)
[22:24] < tcr> sjefen: rewriting of buildscripts, managing of packaging ... cluster support
[22:25] < sjefen> tcr : ok.
[22:25] < tcr> sjefen: see https://www.rocklinux.de/rolling/2002-01/page1.html
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[22:27] < holyolli> moin
[22:28] < sjefen> hello
[22:28] < sjefen> tcr : so, is 2.0 close?
[22:28] < sjefen> :)
[22:28] < holyolli> hi sjefen
[22:28] < tcr> dunno
[22:29] < owl> re
[22:29] < owl> Mike1: unkraine will be rocked soon, too ;)
[22:29] < sjefen> olla' owl.
[22:29] < holyolli> hi owl
[22:29] < owl> hi sjefen
[22:29] < owl> hi holyolli
[22:29] < holyolli> owl: *hug*
[22:29] < owl> *grrrrrr*
[22:30] < holyolli> ;)
[22:32] < owl> holyolli: how r u?
[22:34] < holyolli> owl: hm. så där
[22:34] < holyolli> owl: geht so..
[22:35] < owl> holyolli: zu viel zu lernen? ;)
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[22:40] < esden> sjefen: I would not say that 2.0 is close ... there are tons of work that still has to be done ... and we would like to include many things that are still not implemented ...
[22:40] < esden> but that is not the main point
[22:41] < sjefen> yeah.
[22:41] < esden> the only architecture that really works in 1.7 is intel ... and that is not the only architecture in the world
[22:41] < sjefen> true, but the majority is intel tho'.
[22:41] < owl> uh... somone sounds frustrated... esden ? ;)
[22:42] < esden> owl: not frustrated
[22:42] < owl> annonyed?
[22:42] < esden> I only describe what the current situation is
[22:42] < owl> ok :)
[22:43] < sjefen> what is this 'automatic package update thing' then? is it working? :)
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[23:01] < Lorini> night!"
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[23:02] < sjefen> nite' all.
[23:13] < esden> sjefen: I have not really tested the update stuff ... so I can not tell you ...
[23:13] esden -> bed
[23:13] < owl> gn8 esden
[23:17] < Mike1> n8 all
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[23:28] < satg> See you people !! >)
[23:28] < satg> bye
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