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--- Day changed Wed Dec 18 2002
00:15 < owl> gn8
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00:48 < tsa> moin
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02:00 < tsa> n8
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04:18 < rolla_> re
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06:53 < blindcoder> moin
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07:03 < Lorini> moin
07:03 < blindcoder> moin Lori *winke*
07:08 < blindcoder> wie gehts?
07:09 < Lorini> och.. es is früh :/
07:09 < blindcoder> stimmt ._<
07:10 < Lorini> es viel zu früh, wenn man mich fragt
07:10 < Lorini> und heute is auch noch ein ganz langer tag
07:11 < blindcoder> stimmt...
07:11 < blindcoder> heute bis 18.30 Arbeit und dann Firmentreffen
07:18 < Lorini> mhm.. wir haben bis 1600 uni, dann mathe rechnen bis mindestens 18 oder 1900 und dann weihnachtsmarkt.. dann irgendwann mal nach hause
07:22 < blindcoder> hmm... die Firmentreffen dauren normalerweise bis ~ 23 Uhr...
07:22 < Lorini> autsch
07:23 < Lorini> machts denn weniggstens spaß?
07:23 < blindcoder> meistens :)
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07:27 < Lorini> na dann :)
07:27 < holyolli> moin
07:27 < Lorini> moin
07:27 < holyolli> huhu Lorini
07:27 < blindcoder> hi holyolli
07:27 < Lorini> huhu ;)
07:28 < Lorini> na alles klar?
07:29 < holyolli> och...eigentlich schon...nen bisschen muede bin ich... ;)
07:29 < holyolli> und selber?
07:29 < Lorini> dito
07:29 < Lorini> muss gleich in die uni
07:29 < Lorini> :(
07:29 < holyolli> weia...so frueh?
07:29 < holyolli> .oO(uni vor 12 lohnt nicht! :-)
07:29 < Lorini> ja.. ich bni erstsemester, mit denen kann mans ja machen :)
07:29 < holyolli> hehe
07:30 < holyolli> nein...im 1. semester ist man noch motiviert... ;)
07:30 < Lorini> lol.. sollte man zumindest sein :)
07:36 -!- [anders]_ is now known as [anders]
07:36 < blindcoder> moin [anders]
07:37 < blindcoder> ah, coffee is ready... blb
07:37 < [anders]> lo blindcoder
07:37 < holyolli> hi anders, blindcoder
07:37 < [anders]> lo holyolli
07:38 * [anders] is building kernel rpm for SuSE 8.1.... Interesting options available in 2.4.20-ac2
07:39 < blindcoder> for example?
07:42 < [anders]> device mapper is now available..
07:42 < [anders]> for LVM2 for example.. but LVM2 isn't there yet..
07:43 < [anders]> You can have your kernel send you morse codes when something goes wrong...
07:43 < blindcoder> hmm... I could have needed that... when my kernel panic'ed when I was using X ...
07:43 < [anders]> (root filesystem not found, so the kbd led's flashes S-O-S... :)
07:44 < holyolli> ups..already late...have to go to school...cu later
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07:48 * blindcoder hates writing man-pages
08:00 < [anders]> blindcoder: you just don't like the nroff format or?
08:03 < Lorini> bye ich bin weg
08:03 -!- Lorini is now known as LoriAW
08:04 < blindcoder> [anders]: never used nroff... writing the pages with vim. But I don't really know WHAT to write... I mean... _I_ know haw to use my libs...
08:04 < blindcoder> but I don't know how to tell ethers how to do it...
08:04 < blindcoder> others
08:05 < [anders]> blindcoder: aahh.. Well, grab another existing man-page from the man3 section and have a look in there how they have done it.. Failing that, look at the info pages some packages come with. You should be able to write for either one..
08:06 * [anders] has to go to work now.. cya laters dudes..
08:06 < blindcoder> see you
08:31 < fake> morgen
08:32 < fake> esden: ping
08:35 < blindcoder> moin fake
08:39 < blindcoder> okay, 3 pages done, 30 to go :(
08:39 < blindcoder> brb
08:44 < blindcoder> re
08:45 < fake> blindcoder: wo bekomm ich noch eine zusaetzliche karte fuer heute abend her?
08:48 < blindcoder> ruf Zero an
08:48 < blindcoder> der Mike wollte keine Karte und vielleicht ist die noch nicht weg
08:48 < blindcoder> warte ich klingel Zero mal eben an
08:49 < fake> oh cool
08:50 < blindcoder> gestern sind die Karten bestellt worden (182 wie besstellungen)
08:50 < blindcoder> aber du kannst an Commi mal anrufen
08:50 < blindcoder> vielleicht kriegt der noch welche
08:56 < blindcoder> fake: other question: In OOP a class can inherit from another class. How is the class called from which is being inherited?
08:56 < blindcoder> Ex:
08:56 < blindcoder> class NEW : public OLD { }
08:56 < fake> super()
08:56 < blindcoder> is there any special name for closs OLD?
08:56 < fake> super().method();
08:57 < fake> at least in java ;)
08:57 < blindcoder> hmm... I don't mean how to invoke inherited methods, but how the 'mother'class is called in documentation...
08:57 < blindcoder> I'm currently writing the man-pages for libgli
08:59 < fake> parent
08:59 < blindcoder> hmm... sounds reasonable... thanks :)
09:00 < blindcoder> btw. if you want to see some screenshots:
09:00 < blindcoder> https://www.crash-override.net/libgli/main.php
09:08 < fake> sw33t
09:09 < blindcoder> thanks :)
09:58 < fake> der commi meldet sich nicht -_-
10:00 < blindcoder> das ist... schlecht...
10:09 < esden> morning
10:10 * -> esden lacht ganz gehaessig 
10:26 < esden> blindcoder: ping ?
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10:29 < fake> esden: ping
10:29 < fake> esden: wieviele karten hast du fuer heute abend? auch nur eine, oder?
10:29 < owl> *grrrrrrr*
10:29 < owl> morgen
10:29 < fake> morgen owlita
10:30 < esden> ich habe gar keine fake 
10:30 < fake> blindcoder: could you do me a favor and call commi? i will not be able to do so until 1700 (have to fetch tires after school -_-)
10:31 < fake> esden: oh.
10:31 * fake muss unterricht folgen ;)
10:31 < owl> hi fake
10:32 < esden> hi owl 
10:32 < owl> moin esden
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10:34 < blindcoder> esden: pong
10:34 < blindcoder> hi owl
10:34 < blindcoder> fake:  I'll give it a try
10:35 < fake> blindcoder: thanks!
10:36 < blindcoder> fake: He'll try to do it.
10:36 < fake> blindcoder: cool
10:36 < blindcoder> But the remaining tickets went to the regular selling office, so not much a chance.
10:42 < owl> hi blindcoder
10:42 < blindcoder> owl: already watched X?
10:43 < owl> blindcoder: episode 0, yes.
10:43 < blindcoder> and?
10:43 < owl> looks quite cool.
10:43 < owl> and the rammstein-avm is great! i'm loving it :)
10:44 < blindcoder> hehe :)
10:44 < owl> s/avm/amv
10:44 < blindcoder> the scenes to this AMV are from the Movie, which I haven't got until now  >_<
10:44 < owl> i c.
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11:02 < fake> blindcoder begging for cake *lol*
11:02 < blindcoder> hehe
11:03 < blindcoder> hey, I've lost about 8 kilos of weight in the past 9-10 months
11:06 < fake> wo..
11:06 < fake> i am loosing wieght again, too
11:06 < blindcoder> you should eat more then :)
11:06 < fake> that's the problem - no time ;)
11:06 < blindcoder> YOU don't need to lose weight... contrary to me
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11:07 < fake> we could file a memorandum of understanding and share best of both
11:07 * fake could use some muscles
11:07 < blindcoder> erm... in understandable words?
11:08 < fake> blindcoder: wir koennten teilen ;)
11:08 < fake> man... scheiss verbdingun hier... mitmeisselgeschwindigkeit... zum KOTZEN
11:08 < blindcoder> achso :)
11:08 < blindcoder> fake: wo bist du denn grade?
11:08 < fake> BFS1
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11:09 < fake> Berfuufsschule IN
11:09 < blindcoder> oh... Ingolstadt Netz... I-Team Leitung...
11:10 < fake> na, irgendwas anderes is da kaputtkonfiguriert
11:10 < blindcoder> hmm
11:11 < blindcoder> also ich hab eine (fast) fluessige Verbindung zzu mir nach hause
11:11 < owl> fake: immer noch der alte router? oder ist der linux-r.schon aktiv?
11:11 < blindcoder> hmm...
11:11 < blindcoder> mldonke ist strange...
11:11 < blindcoder> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
11:11 < blindcoder> 0x08142fc8 in strcpy ()
11:12 < fake> owl: nicht das ich wuesste
11:13 < owl> fake: hast du die sms am - mo. oder so - wg. dem router bekommen?
11:15 < fake> owl: kann sein...
11:15 < fake> mittagspauseeeee
11:15 < blindcoder> baba
11:17 < aszlig> rehi
11:17 < aszlig> fake: wie bitte!?
11:17 < aszlig> fake: jetzt schon!?
11:17 < aszlig> fake: ihr schweine!
11:18 < blindcoder> aszlig: *auslach*
11:18 < aszlig> blindcoder: hoeh?
11:18 < blindcoder> hehe
11:18 < aszlig> blindcoder: gehst du noch zur schule?
11:19 < blindcoder> noe :P
11:19 < aszlig> blindcoder: des mein ich ja, warum gibts da dann was zu lachen!?
11:19 < esden> hi aszlig !
11:19 < aszlig> 'lo esden
11:20 < blindcoder> aszlig: lass mich doch lachen
11:20 < esden> *lach*
11:20 < aszlig> *rotflol*
11:20 < aszlig> *lmao*
11:21 < aszlig> *rotflmaoalutbdatcs*
11:22 < blindcoder> jetzt dreht er endgueltig durch
11:22 < aszlig> *rootffl*
11:22 < aszlig> *lollol*
11:22 < blindcoder> *kaffeeschluerf*
11:22 < esden> *kaffeeschluerf_und_gelangweilt_aszlig_zuschau*
11:22 < aszlig> blindcoder: ey sid! weg mit dem kaffee *lol*
11:23 * aszlig dreht durch *lol*
11:23 * aszlig braucht ne kippe *lmao*
11:23 < aszlig> brb :Q *rotfl*
11:24 * blindcoder stellt sich grade vor wie aszlig schreiend wie ein Affe ducrhs Zimmer rennt
11:24 < owl> blindcoder: *lol*
11:26 < esden> blindcoder: ich muss es mir nicht vorstellen ... ich habe es schon oft genug gesehen ;-)
11:28 < aszlig> re *lol*
11:28 < blindcoder> esden: ja, stimmt :)
11:28 < aszlig> esden: hehe *rotfl*
11:28 < esden> argh ... wie heisst das lied !!! 
11:28 < esden> ich will es haben !!!
11:28 < aszlig> esden: which one? *lmao*
11:30 < esden> mono surround - I want you around
11:30 < esden> now I know the name ;-)
11:30 < aszlig> esden: is that song a *boom_boom*-song? *lol*
11:31 < esden> aszlig: it is a good song
11:31 < aszlig> esden: then it is a boom-boom song *rotfl*
11:31 < esden> it is bringing one i a good mood ... 
11:31 < esden> that is most importaint
11:32 < owl> blindcoder: could it be, that the 2nd .avi isn't complete?
11:32 < blindcoder> owl: shouldn't be, why?
11:32 < aszlig> esden: yeah, if you want to be in a good mood, try death metal *rotflol*
11:32 < blindcoder> you mean the first Episoe?
11:32 < owl> blindcoder: about 5 mb...
11:33 < owl> blindcoder: nope. X-Tv 02.avi
11:33 < blindcoder> mom.... which File are we talking about?
11:33 < blindcoder> 02 is incomplete, that's correct
11:33 < aszlig> esden: even better: melodic death metal *lol*
11:33 < owl> k. thx.
11:33 < blindcoder> I was low on Hard disk space, so I put only the 00 and 01 on the FTP
11:33 < owl> ok :)
11:33 * aszlig is in a good mood :) *lmao*
11:34 < blindcoder> I'll do it tonight or tomorrow afternonn
11:34 < owl> aszlig: there are people with other "meinungen" - accept it!
11:34 < blindcoder> owl: opinions
11:34 < owl> blindcoder: thx.
11:35 < blindcoder> hmm... I could also just mount the cdrom into the FTP-Directory...
11:35 < owl> hm.
11:35 < blindcoder> no I can't. The CD-Rom isn't attached on the router and I don't want to reboot it
11:35 < aszlig> blindcoder: erm...
11:35 < aszlig> blindcoder: nfs?
11:35 < owl> k. then i will get hacksig first
11:36 < owl> +n
11:36 < blindcoder> owl: HS is still on the Server o_0
11:36 < owl> blindcoder: pardon?
11:36 < blindcoder> aszlig: sure. I'll install nfsd on my workstation which gets booted three times a day and mount it onte my Server
11:37 < blindcoder> owl: Hack Sign has only the Liminality Wovie on, hasn't it?
11:37 < aszlig> uh...
11:37 < owl> yep
11:37 < fake> aaaah... endlich normal arbeiten
11:37 < aszlig> then just copy the files...
11:37 < aszlig> fake: hrm?
11:37 < aszlig> fake: where are you?
11:38 < blindcoder> owl: hmm... the Movie plays after the Series...
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11:38 < blindcoder> and will be rather boring for you...
11:38 < owl> blindcoder: hm. why?
11:38 < aszlig> blindcoder: hrm? 4 /me?
11:38 < blindcoder> owl: https://www.animenfo.com/anime.php?id=862
11:38 < blindcoder> owl: https://www.animenfo.com/anime.php?id=954
11:39 < blindcoder> Hack Sign and Hack Sign  Liminality
11:39 < owl> k. thx
11:39 < fake> aszlig: bitz
11:39 < aszlig> fake: ey!
11:40 < aszlig> *grml*
11:40 < fake> aszlig: but only for 5 more minutes
11:40 < fake> then i'll have to go back -_-
11:40 < aszlig> fake: hoeh?
11:40 * fake listenst to Artwork - Liebling der Goetter once more
11:40 < aszlig> fake: you have to go back to school at 12:00 am?
11:41 < aszlig> fake: are you wrung to schredl-bwp?
11:43 < fake> no
11:43 < fake> german
11:43 < aszlig> something told me to tell you - don't give into me *sing*
11:43 < fake> schmidtner -_-
11:43 < aszlig> fake: oh...
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11:43 < fake> ack.
11:44 < fake> but it's the last time this year ;)
11:44 < aszlig> fake: y?
11:44 < aszlig> fake: oh!
11:44 < aszlig> understood ;)
11:45 < fake> esden: Pain is uh?
11:45 < fake> like tears in the rain...
11:46 < blindcoder>  owl as you are going to 19C3 for sure now, I could just bring my Anime Collection with me to copy
11:46 < fake> esden: that clarifies a very unclear situation
11:46 < esden> fake: ?
11:46 < fake> esden: remember Alex Ploner aka Black Pain? you met him on nos' 19th birthday
11:46 < owl> blindcoder: that would be great... :)
11:46 < esden> fake: yes
11:46 < fake> esden: we (nos and me) thought he'd particiapte and flamed him like hell ;)
11:47 < esden> fake: uh is having this nick since many years
11:47 < fake> (he is a windows-user...)
11:47 < esden> lool
11:47 < blindcoder> owl: I may even have other interesting things for you like Neon Genesis Evangelion :)
11:47 < fake> aiie! let's watch Lain on 19c3!
11:47 < owl> blindcoder: what is it about?
11:47 < fake> DEATH! DESTRUCTION! PAIN!
11:47 < esden> yes on the big screen ... in the aula!
11:47 < owl> *g*
11:47 < aszlig> hehe
11:48 * fake wants the "NINJ4"-sweater
11:48 < esden> ich weiss warum ich verrueckt bin ... ich weiss warum ... es ist mir egal
11:48 < esden> *sing*
11:48 < blindcoder> owl: https://www.animenfo.com/anime.php?id=284
11:48 < aszlig> esden: /me ist auch verrueckt!
11:48 * fake muss wieder
11:48 < fake> bis nacher!
11:48 < aszlig> fake: cu later
11:48 < blindcoder> fake: I'll bring theAnime, you talk the Arch Angels into playing it :)
11:48 < esden> ich weiss warum ...ich denk nicht mehr weiter
11:48 < owl> cu later,fake
11:49 < esden> *sing*
11:49 < esden> cu fake 
11:49 < blindcoder> argh, AnimeNFO has no picture of Pen²
11:50 < esden> o_O
11:51 < blindcoder> there is one!
11:51 < blindcoder> https://mitglied.lycos.de/ngeanime/content/images/personen/pen_pen_202.jpg
11:51 < blindcoder> owl: that's one of the most important characters in Evangelion :)
11:52 < owl> evil tux? ;)
11:52 < blindcoder> "Manchmal hat man durchaus den Eindruck, Pen Pen sei der mit Abstand intelligenteste Bewohner von Misatos Haushalt..."
11:52 < blindcoder> owl: something like that. Hot-Water-Penguin
11:53 < owl> k.
11:59 < esden> blindcoder: wee ... cool
12:00 < blindcoder> hm?
12:01 < esden> blindcoder: nothing ... :D
12:01 < blindcoder> okay... *shakes head*
12:02 < esden> blindcoder: be carefull that your brain does not flow out your skull ... when you shake it
12:02 < fake> back
12:03 < blindcoder> esden: my ears are stuffed, so don't worry :)
12:03 < blindcoder> re fake-on-the-slow-school-line
12:03 < fake> i'd like to see a cap of that by kleemann's braincam(tm) *g*
12:04 < esden> we need to ask him that he tells us where we can get the stream ;-)
12:04 < blindcoder> you mean the webcam in the I-Team Serverroom showing Neelix?
12:04 < esden> noo
12:05 < esden> that is a cam used by the neurosurgers ... and kleeman digitalized the camera output
12:05 < blindcoder> oh
12:05 < esden> and now it is a video streem avalable in whole klinikum
12:05 < fake> streaming mpeg2 ;)
12:05 < fake> <0 off
12:05 < fake> lesson
12:05 < esden> fake: have fun
12:06 < blindcoder> that's something only kleemann can come up with
12:07 < esden> yes
12:38 < owl> brb (installing & testing a bit)
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12:55 < fake> re
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12:55 < owl> re
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13:17 < fake> hm...
13:18 < fake> schreiben grade sozi-ex ;)
13:18 < aszlig> *lol*
13:18 < aszlig> fake: habich gestern auch geschrieben *gg*
13:18 < fake> aszlig: oh gut, dann sag mir mal... *ggg*
13:21 < fake> zu spaet.
13:25 < fake> raucherpause
13:31 < blindcoder> re
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13:39 < blindcoder> re owl
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13:47 < fake> hm...
13:47 < fake> 2.5.52 uml doesn't mount my root_fs :(
13:49 < fake> schmidtmeyer: "das internet hab ich wieder gesperrt"
13:49 < fake> o_O ?
13:49 < esden> fake: du meinst deinen lehrer ?
13:49 < fake> <- did nothing special
13:50 < fake> esden: ack
13:50 < esden> fake: but you are still online o_O
13:50 < fake> it seems so
13:50 < esden> have you made the internet off button foo ?
13:52 < fake> nope, i'm not gonna touch it - it doesn't seem to work, anyways
13:52 < aszlig> fake: hehe...
13:52 < aszlig> fake: he only denied access to winroute ;P
13:52 < fake> *lol*
13:53 < aszlig> fake: yesterday, /me routed the whole class *gg* ;)
13:53 < fake> <- is prepared for that, to
13:53 < aszlig> hehe
13:53 < fake> but they can't change their default route, can they?
13:53 < aszlig> aiieh!
13:54 < aszlig> fake: if you set up a proxy ;)
13:54 * aszlig has to rewrite the whole php-file!
13:54 < aszlig> argh!
13:55 < aszlig> it used form-interlace!
13:55 < aszlig> hate that!
13:55 < aszlig> grr!
13:55 < owl> aszlig: bad luck for you
13:55 < fake> ha-ha
13:56 < aszlig> *rewriting*
13:56 < aszlig> all that fscking crap!
13:56 < aszlig> maybe should use pframe for that...
13:57 < blindcoder> form-interlace?
13:57 < aszlig> yeah!
13:57 < aszlig> <table>
13:58 < aszlig> <form>
13:58 < aszlig> <td>
13:58 < aszlig> blah...
13:58 < aszlig> <form>
13:58 < aszlig> blah
13:58 < aszlig> </form>
13:58 < aszlig> <form>
13:58 < esden> hmm ... /me had no cigarette since yesterday at 12 .. and still feels good ... ;-)
13:58 < aszlig> <form>
13:58 < aszlig> and so on...
13:58 < blindcoder> so... several forms intermixed? is that correct?
13:59 < aszlig> blindcoder: yeah :(
13:59 < blindcoder> or forms within a table?
13:59 < aszlig> blindcoder: erm, no..
13:59 < blindcoder> okay :)
13:59 < aszlig> forms within a table are allowed...
13:59 < aszlig> if they are within td or th
14:00 < blindcoder> yes, okay.
14:00 < aszlig> but you couldn't use:
14:00 < aszlig> <td>
14:00 < aszlig> <form>
14:00 < aszlig> </td>
14:00 < blindcoder> esden: good, keep i up :)
14:00 < aszlig> <td></form></td>
14:00 < esden> yo yo
14:00 * blindcoder getting coffee
14:00 < esden> blindcoder: but I still have time till 01.01.2003 ;-)
14:00 < aszlig> esden: you'll get some from /me today!
14:00 < fake> Writing a wtmp record.
14:00 < fake> Saving kernel random seed.
14:00 < fake> Sending all processes a SIGTERM (15).
14:00 < fake> INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel
14:01 < aszlig> hah?
14:01 < aszlig> *lol*
14:01 < fake> that's rock 1.7 in a 2.5 uml ;)
14:01 < esden> aszlig: no I will not ... because I am not leaving my home today ...
14:01 < aszlig> esden: you don't go to cinema today?
14:02 < esden> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-ia32-athlon-tbird-generic-expert:
14:02 < esden> 1132 builds total, 541 completed fine, 54 with errors.
14:02 < esden> aszlig: no I do not
14:02 < aszlig> fake: and u?
14:03 < blindcoder> esden: hows the alpha build?
14:03 < esden> blindcoder: es zickt
14:04 < esden> ich muss ein t-shirt fuer natalie kaufen ... wo drauf steht "ZICKE"
14:04 < aszlig> esden: kauf eins mit fuer owl
14:04 < zer0_o> lol
14:04 < esden> aszlig: lol
14:06 < owl> aszlig: ruhe!
14:06 < zer0_o> OWL !!!!! =DDDD *KUTSCH*
14:06 < zer0_o> OWL !!!!! =DDDD *KUTSCH*
14:06 < zer0_o> *DRÜCK* *UMARM*
14:06 < esden> owl: hast angst das ich es vielleicht noch mache ?
14:06 < esden> zer0_o: weiter so ;-)
14:07 < owl> *wegrenn*
14:07 < zer0_o> hehe
14:07 < zer0_o> esden willste auch ? =)
14:07 < owl> esden: wehe dir!
14:08 < esden> owl: keine angst ich muss dir kein t-shirt kaufen ... dir steht doch auf der stirn drauf das du ne zicke bist ;-)
14:08 < zer0_o> owl is doch zum knuddln ^^
14:08 * aszlig slaps owl with a big large bill gates doll!
14:08 < owl> esden: willste schlaeg?! komm nur her... dann haue ich dir win-cds um die ohren!
14:08 < esden> ich will nicht ... danke zer0_o 
14:08 < aszlig> hehe
14:08 < esden> owl: ohh cool ... das ist ne geile folter ... 
14:09 < owl> esden: spinner :)
14:09 < esden> owl: ich habe nie was anderes behauptet ;-)
14:09 < owl> esden: dann ist's ja gut
14:10 < esden> scheiss autoconf !!!!!!!!
14:10 < aszlig> hrm?
14:10 < owl> *gr* brb
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14:11 < blindcoder> esden: ACK
14:11 < esden> aber eigentlich ist es nicht das autoconf das scheisse ist sondern die die es einsetzen !
14:12 < blindcoder> esden: that's why libgli isn't atoconf'd :)
14:12 * fake hat sein UML ext2 image in ext3 konvertiert *lol*
14:12 < fake> tune2fs -j ./rott_fs
14:12 < fake> s,rott,root
14:12 < fake> ,
14:12 < blindcoder> your root-fs is rotten :)
14:12 < fake> *lol*
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14:13 < owl> re
14:13 < blindcoder> does anyone know if there is a SerfCity clone for Linux?
14:13 < blindcoder> re owlita
14:18 < blindcoder> hmm... I take this for a 'no'
14:19 < fake> aszlig: hast du den rechner bis morgen fertig? wie gedenkst du die IP-Addressen die per DHCP kommen den Klassenzimmern zuzuordnen? wie willst du die remote-sperrung machen?
14:25 < aszlig> fake -> query
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14:29 * tcr hails all
14:29 < blindcoder> hi tcr
14:29 < owl> hi tcr
14:31 < rolla> re
14:32 < owl> hi rolla
14:32 < rolla> :)
14:32 < rolla> == 07:29:15 =[3]=> Building base package kdeedu [3.0.4 1.6.0pre1].
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15:04 < esden> == 14:27:29 =[9]=> Building base/glibc [2.3.1 1.7-snapshot].
15:04 < esden> muahaha ;-)
15:05 < blindcoder> sweet
15:05 < blindcoder> aah... I'm so demotivated
15:07 < rolla> yeah
15:07 < blindcoder> I don't want to write documentation
15:08 < blindcoder> I can't even decide on a god-damn license
15:09 < rolla> :)
15:10 < rolla> I have to clean up someones else stupied cgi code :(
15:12 < blindcoder> clean up as in rewrite from scratch?
15:12 < rolla> ah kind of
15:12 < rolla> alot of cleaning :(
15:13 < blindcoder> urks
15:13 < blindcoder> hmm... I could also go to Munich East and buy some manga
15:14 < esden> blindcoder: why not ?
15:14 < blindcoder> esden: because my bank-account is 280 EUR in the minus
15:15 < esden> not good ...
15:15 < blindcoder> mhm
15:15 < blindcoder> mhm
15:15 < blindcoder> esden: and I don't know what to do with libgli
15:17 < blindcoder> GPL? LGPL? Free for non commercial use? I really don't know.
15:32 * blindcoder going to Munich East, buying some mangas, ja ne!
15:35 < huebi> moin
15:35 < fake> hi uebi!
15:35 < fake> +h
15:36 < huebi> hi fake
15:36 < huebi> :-)
15:36 < fake> huebi: erinnerst du dich noch an einen stefan ebbinghaus?
15:36 < owl> tach huebi
15:36 < huebi> fake: Jo, sehr guter Bekannter
15:36 < fake> huebi: mit dem hab ich gestern telefoniert ;)
15:36 < owl> huebi: krups bitte, bitte, bitte ned vergessen :)
15:36 < fake> huebi: er spendiert mir n' Cobalt RaQ2 (MIPS) *freu*
15:37 < huebi> fake: kooooool!!
15:37 < fake> hat mich gleich gefragt was du so machst ;)
15:37 < huebi> owl: geht klar.
15:37 < owl> huebi: cool. thx. :)
15:37 < fake> der hat eh die coolste 5digit-nummer von sun
15:37 < fake> x65536
15:38 < huebi> [Folder "INBOX" opened with 5,032 messages] - au scheisse....
15:38 < fake> *lol*
15:39 < fake> ich hoffe ich hab das raq2 zum 19c3 ...
15:39 < fake> urgh
15:39 < fake> jetzt schaltet er das internet ein (tm)
15:39 < owl> haha.
15:40 < fake> ich find das so witzig
15:40 < huebi> fake: Ich koennte es mitbringen, wenn du das organisierst.
15:40 < fake> huebi: er meinte es is ok, wenn er es mir schickt
15:40 < fake> er kriegt morgen nen brief, w ich schriftlich erklaere, dass ich es nicht weitervehoekere
15:40 < fake> wenn er es nicht schicken muss, hab ich natuerlich sicher zum 19c3...
15:40 < fake> hm...
15:41 < fake> mift.
15:41 < fake> haette mitdenken sollen
15:41 < fake> ruf einfach ma an und frag ob des geht
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15:42 < huebi> fake: 0178-2020253 - sag dann einfach bescheid.
15:43 < fake> danke! *knutsch*
15:43 < rolla> I ma losing my mind
15:43 < rolla> s/ma/am/
15:43 < fake> rolla: why?
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15:44 < rolla> weird actions from a webserver
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15:44 < rolla> if I go to a .shtml file I am fine
15:44 < Mike1> moin all
15:44 < rolla> if I go to a .html it redirects me to another site!!!
15:44 < fake> urgh
15:45 < huebi> Moin Mike1 , Moin rolla
15:45 < owl> hi Mike1
15:45 < rolla> yeah tell me about it
15:45 < rolla> it is my server but someones elses docs
15:45 < rolla> I am losing my mind
15:46 < Mike1> master huebi
15:46 < fake> rolla: sleep a night over it. the solution will occur to you when you look at it tomoroow.
15:46 < rolla> I alrady have :(
15:47 < rolla> I started this yesterday
15:49 < rolla> grrrrrrr
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15:50 < fake> rolla: then get some coffee ;)
15:51 < rolla> I don't drink coffee but I am thinking of a drink ;)
15:52 < fake> rolla: something with lots of caffeine.
15:53 < huebi> caffeine. <- argh I missed the order....
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15:54 < Mike1> hi [anders]
15:54 < owl> moin [anders]
15:55 < huebi> mopin [anders]
15:55 < huebi> moin [anders]
15:56 < fake> <- hat aus
15:56 < fake> cya later
15:56 < huebi> cu fake
15:59 < rolla> damn .htaccess file
16:00 < rolla> it is fixed
16:03 * huebi fixing the CVS
16:03 < huebi> somebody did tag it wrong.
16:07 < Mike1> huebi: i asume it was PJ
16:09 < huebi> I delete the CVS and restore my backup!
16:09 < huebi> Nobody was allowed to fuck it up.
16:10 < huebi> arghh. .cvsignore files. Nobody needs them.
16:10 < Mike1> huebi: could please send an email to hackers list regarding this isssue
16:10 < rolla> == 09:06:09 =[3]=> Building base package kdepim [3.0.4 1.6.0pre1].
16:11 < huebi> Mike1: NO!
16:11 < Mike1> huebi: are you yelling at me my friend?
16:11 < huebi> rockcvs-2001-11-03.tar.bz2 <- This is the state I restore NOW.
16:12 < huebi> I'm angry! deletet packages all around.
16:12 < huebi> all fucked up.
16:13 < Mike1> :(
16:14 < Mike1> huebi: why 2001-11-03?
16:14 < huebi> last backup.
16:14 < Mike1> also you didnt answer my previous question
16:14 < huebi> I do not write a mail because of this.
16:14 < Mike1> no that one
16:14 < Mike1> <Mike1> huebi: are you yelling at me my friend?
16:15 < huebi> no, I'm only _very_ angry
16:15 < huebi> l
16:16 < Mike1> if you restore to 2001 11 03 a whole year of work will be gone!
16:16 < huebi> I mean 2002
16:16 < huebi> -rw-r--r--   1 huebi    users           0 Dec 18 16:13 rockcvs-2001-11-03.tar.bz2
16:16 < huebi> -rw-r--r--   1 huebi    users     2637715 Aug 27 18:29 rockcvs-2001-08-27.tar.bz2
16:16 < huebi> better back to august
16:16 < huebi> more contnent
16:17 < Mike1> huebi: ok well you are the maintainer, so there is nothing i can / will say
16:18 < Mike1> this is just too fucked up already
16:18 < huebi> And it is the CVS tree I use. I only made it avaliable to the public because I was sure there are no such problems.
16:18 < huebi> Only I release or branch tag sth
16:19 < Mike1> yes you are right
16:19 < Mike1> i am sorry for fucking it up as well
16:19 < huebi> And packages never have to be deleted without my YES!
16:21 < huebi> OK, I try to fix it now.
16:21 < Mike1> huebi: you will not have to worry about at least me fucking anything up
16:22 < Mike1> not anymore
16:22 < huebi> Mike1: I'm very sure about what you did. That is fine.
16:22 < Mike1> SMP: feel free to remove my cvs account anytime
16:23 < huebi> Mike1: What's up?
16:26 < huebi> Mike1: huhu?
16:50 < Mike1> huhu
16:51 < huebi> *g*
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16:51 < Mike1> :)
16:51 < holyolli> moin
16:51 < Mike1> hi holyolli
16:51 < huebi> holyolli: Muuuuh
16:51 < holyolli> hi Mike1
16:51 < owl> hi holyolli
16:51 < holyolli> huhu owl *hug* ;)
16:51 < holyolli> huebi: *froi* *eeeeellllch*
16:51 < holyolli> huebi: ;)
16:51 < Mike1> BTW there is nothing wrong between me and huebi don't miss understand our last discussion
16:53 < huebi> ACK
17:01 < fake> ls
17:01 < fake> >_<
17:03 < Mike1> ls: Permission denied
17:03 < huebi> *g*
17:05 < fake> :P
17:05 < fake> Operation not permitted
17:09 < huebi> Hi all,
17:09 < huebi> The cvs of 1.5 is fucked up!
17:09 < huebi> Packages are removed and the tree has been tagged. I made my cvs tree only
17:09 < huebi> avaliable to the public to get patches faster in ther. The tree will be
17:09 < huebi> restored now by me first. Then I merge all changes into the tree. After
17:09 < huebi> that I tag it again with 1.5.20 and 1.5.21. As I saw many unwanted changes
17:09 < huebi> are done and I have to review about 5200 files. Later I release
17:09 < huebi> 1.6.0.0pre1. I though I just could commit my changes to the tree today but
17:09 < huebi> now I need at least a few days for that. In the moment I have a very
17:09 < Mike1> holly SHIT
17:09 < huebi> limited internet connection so I need a long long time for it.
17:09 < huebi> As I had to mention the tags are not removable so many things have to be
17:09 < huebi> done by hand.
17:10 < huebi> sorry, Ella got the mouse and pasted half the mail.
17:10 < fake> *hehe*
17:10 < fake> greetz to ella!
17:10 < Mike1> huebi: yeah i realized that
17:10 < Mike1> bash: *hehe*: command not found
17:10 < fake> huebi's 3l1t3 daughter ;)
17:13 < rolla> :)
17:14 < owl> x
17:14 < owl> sorry
17:16 < fake> huebi: it talked stefan eb. onto his mailbox
17:16 < fake> y
17:27 < rolla> == 10:26:11 =[3]=> Building base package tetex [1.0.7 1.6.0pre1].
17:27 < huebi> rolla: nice
17:28 < rolla> yup still no problems :)
17:29 < huebi> I know, compiling is not the problem - The documentation, boot system and online documentation are the main points to be fixed.
17:29 < rolla> yeah
17:29 < aszlig> rehi
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18:50 * tcr hails all
18:50 < huebi> tach tcr
18:50 < Mike1> hi tcr
18:51 < tcr> huebi:  ???
18:51 < rolla> == 11:47:58 =[3]=> Building base package net-snmp [5.0.3 1.6.0pre1].
18:52 < tcr> huebi: mhm.. if it helps, I have got probably the most recent version of the old cvs tree.
18:52 < Mike1> tcr: you usre?
18:52 < Mike1> sure*
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18:52 < Mike1> capy :)
18:53 < capchaos> Mikey :)
18:53 < capchaos> How's it going?
18:53 < tcr> Mike1: yes, I'm really sure. Have the tree of yesterday + sed upgrade that i made today (but didnt fuck up the tree, after committing everything was normal)
18:54 < huebi> tcr: Perhaps I need it, but I don't think so.
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18:57 < tcr> huebi: OK. taking a shower right now, will be back for discussing and such stuff
18:59 < huebi> I'm off for now. I come back later. I need to go now. I come back in about two to three hours.
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19:45 < KeM> Hello
19:45 < holyolli> hi KeM
19:46 < KeM> Anyone know what's up with the 1.5.20 iso..
19:46 < KeM> Buggy..
19:46 < holyolli> in what way?
19:46 < owl> KeM: huh? what's wrong with it?
19:47 < KeM> Missing essential binaries as "swapon","cat" etc..
19:47 < KeM> Scripts failing because of it..
19:47 < owl> KeM: built it from sources or got the iso from server?
19:47 < holyolli> KeM: which platform are you using?
19:47 < KeM> Iso from server.. running athlon-xp here
19:48 < KeM> Downloaded the 586 iso
19:48 * KeM ponders if has has gotten a bad iso..
19:49 < holyolli> KeM: is it after booting the cd?
19:50 < KeM> heh, i'm running a new motherboard, so i compiled a custom kernel, booting it with grub, and using the cd as root fs..
19:50 < KeM> But As far as i can see, there isn't utils like "cat" even..
19:55 < KeM> Could the fact that i'm using a custom kernel, break the inst. ?
19:56 < holyolli> hm. normally not
19:56 < holyolli> i've also downloaded the iso, but didn't try it yet
19:56 < KeM> Noticed that I have to root fs mounted.. the cd and perhaps the cd again, one "ro" and one "rw" ...
19:57 < SMP> KeM: /bin/cat is in the textutils package. do "ls -l /var/adm/packages/textutils" to see if you have it installed
19:57 < holyolli> hi smp, btw
19:57 < KeM> SMP: I've not installed it yet.. Trying to. I was referring to the filesystem on the 1.5.20 iso..
19:58 < SMP> ahh
20:04 < KeM> when running chrtrg it nags about not having "chroot" present
20:04 < th> KeM: is your / fs -exec mounted?
20:05 < KeM> Has to be since i'm able to run, install_bin manually..
20:05 < th> hmm ok
20:05 < th> and the binaries aren't there?
20:05 < th> or "just" corrupted?
20:06 < KeM> Not there, I've looked through the cd
20:10 < th> sounds quite broken
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20:31 < rolla> == 12:43:00 =[5]=> Building base package linux [2.4.19 1.6.0pre1].
20:31 < rolla> stage 5 :)
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20:36 < Mike1> satg: having connection problems ?
20:37 < rolla> :)
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20:43 < Mike1> hi Lorini
20:43 < Lorini> huhu mike
20:43 < holyolli_> hi Lorini
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20:43 < Lorini> hi holyolli
20:43 < Lorini> _
20:43 < Lorini> :)
20:44 < holyolli> *g*
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21:06 < esden> abend
21:06 < holyolli> hi esden
21:07 < owl> hi esden
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21:09 < Lorini> huhu esden
21:10 < esden> hi Lorini 
21:21 < esden> hi owl 
21:21 < esden> hi holyolli 
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21:39 < tsa> moin
21:40 < holyolli> moin tsa
21:40 < tsa> anyone using daemontools?
21:42 < esden> hi tsa 
21:42 < esden> tsa: /me not ... thank god ;-)
21:43 < SMP> tsa: sure
21:43 < tsa> SMP: fine, perhaps you can explain me something
21:44 < tsa> i'm supervising apache, and from what i currently understand, the apache/run script _must not_ detach from the terminal
21:45 < tsa> i'm using "httpd -F" for this
21:45 < tsa> when i run "httpd -F" on the command line, it detaches
21:45 < SMP> what apache version?
21:45 < tsa> starting my "run" script on the command line, it detaches, too.
21:45 < tsa> 1.3.26
21:46 < SMP> hold on
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21:46 < tsa> but: actually using the "run" script for supervise, it works flawless..
21:47 < SMP> tsa: apply this: https://public.wronline.de/people/stefanp/sw/apache/apache_1.3.26-daemontools.diff
21:48 < tsa> i'm just trying to figure out why it works with supervise, but doesn't work when run on the command line
21:48 < tsa> ah..
21:48 < tsa> thanks, i'll try it out
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21:50 < Mike1> re all
21:50 < esden> hi Mike1 
21:50 < tsa> SMP: what other services do you use with daemontools?
21:50 < rolla> re Mike
21:51 < tsa> hi Mike1
21:53 < tsa> hm...i'm deeply impressed - i don't really like djb software, but this thingie just works..
21:55 < SMP> tsa: qmail and djbdns of course and then squid, postgres, mysql, tac_plus, radiator, thttpd, openldap slapd and some local thingies
21:55 < SMP> oh, and sshd
21:55 < tsa> nice..
21:55 < SMP> and inn and vsftpd
21:56 < SMP> no patches needed other than for apache 1.3
21:56 < tsa> ahh..good
21:56 < tsa> wil spervise give up when a service keeps crashing?
21:57 < SMP> no
21:57 < tsa> i see...so i'll get thousands of mails in case a service is really broken..
21:58 < tsa> guess i'l write a small counter for that..
21:58 < SMP> it will wait one second before starting it, to prevend serious thrashing
22:00 < tsa> looks like i can remove lots of stuff from /etc/init.d/* soon..
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22:23 < tsa> SMP: btw...any experience with daemontools and apache2 ?
22:28 < SMP> you only have to start the apache2 httpd with -DNO_DETACH
22:29 < esden> good night every one
22:30 < SMP> and if you really want to be notified when a service restarts, use a little script that does svstat on each of them and tests if the reported uptime has decreased
22:30 < tsa> a, ok...thanks
22:31 < SMP> er, and I forgot proftpd in the listing above ;)
22:31 < tsa> hehe ;-)
22:32 < tsa> ..moveed inetd, httpd, sshd to /service so far..
22:32 < tsa> ntpd always detaches, it seems.
22:46 < th> Makefile experience in here?
22:46 < th> want a makefile for code-snippets
22:47 < th> so i'd like to have a snippet.c >> snippet.o >> snippet rule
22:47 < th> .c.o should be clear
22:48 < fake> snippet: snippet.o
22:48 < fake> should do the trick
22:48 < th> yeah but i want SNIPPETS=snippet1 snippet2 snippet3
22:48 < fake> you don't need a makefile for taht, btw
22:48 < fake> just 'make snippet' should suffice
22:49 < fake> th: pinfo make - i have no clue
22:49 < fake> autoconfiscate it ;)
22:50 < th> hmmm there is a default rule to make binaries from objects
22:50 < fake> maybe...
22:50 < th> that's cool. thanks fake
22:51 < th> .c: is cooler...
22:52 < th>     $(CC) $(CFLAGS) $@.c $(LDFLAGS) -o $@
22:53 < th> a way to set LDFLAGS per target would be cool
22:53 < th> $(LDFLAGS_$@) deserves a try
22:54 < th> yeah that's it
22:56 < fake> when do you know you're too much into compiling? when you can iterate the Makefile syntax without reading documentation... by good guesses...
22:56 < th> yea ;-/
22:56 < tsa> hehehe
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23:13 < owl> *grrr*
23:27 < owl> gn8
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23:55 < LocalHero> hi all :)
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