-!- Irrsi  Log opened Sun Dec 22 00:00:02 2002
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[01:14] < owl> re and bye
[01:14] < holyolli> n8 owl
[02:14] < tsa> .oO( rejoin, um "n8" zu sagen ? )
[02:15] < holyolli> hehe
[02:15] < holyolli> so in etwa
[02:25] < holyolli> n8
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[02:27] < huebi> moin
[02:31] < tsa> moin huebi
[02:31] < huebi> hi tsa *freu*
[02:32] < tsa> was macht die 1.6-bastelei?
[02:32] < huebi> Betrge von Arbeit, aber es geht sehr gut vorran
[02:32] < huebi> -t
[02:32] < tsa> hm..klingt ja nicht schlecht...
[02:33] < tsa> wie sieht das mit den ports auf andere architekturen aus, bastelt da darzeit ueberhaupt irgendwer?
[02:33] < huebi> Ich hoffe, mein Testbuild laeuft jetzt bald durch, dann kann ich vielleich morgen scvhon 1.6.0pre2 releasen.
[02:34] < tsa> ..nen freund von mir stellt uns fuer den 19c3 ne alpha zur verfuegung, ohne irgendwas drauf, wenn da bastel-bedarf besteht, koennte man ja mal testen..
[02:34] < huebi> Ich mache sparc, sparc64. Bald auch wieder alpha und vielleicht noch ppc. ppc bekomme ich jetzt 2 Stueck
[02:34] < tsa> oh, nett.
[02:34] < huebi> tsa: Ja, mitbringen, bitte
[02:35] < tsa> huebi: geht klar, kein problem...
[02:35]   huebi writing answer to the very nice mail from tcr
[02:36] < tsa> will you do package updates for 1.6.0 or just fixes?
[02:37] < huebi> There may be some update for KDE, but I don't know it yet because the build did not finish.
[02:38] < tsa> ah, ok..
[02:39] < tsa> i have some new versions for my packages installed here for testing purposes..
[02:39] < huebi> They are updating faster than I can...
[02:40] < tsa> nessus, nvidia, ethereal
[02:40] < tsa> hehe
[02:40] < huebi> tsa: Just commit them into cvs, I merge them later.
[02:40] < tsa> huebi: not now..i always test stuff for about 2-3 weeks on my system before commiting anything..
[02:41] < huebi> tsa: kool, very good the way you work.
[02:41] < huebi> for i in kde*/*.pz; do sed -e s/3.0.5/3.0.5a/g -e s/Unknown/huebi/ <$i >$i.tmp; mv $i.tmp $i; done
[02:41] < tsa> i don't like being the maintainer for packages that don't even work at all ;-)
[02:41] < huebi> I'm fast, too if I want
[02:42] < tsa> hehe
[02:42] < tsa> nvidia and ethereal looks good so far, didn't have the time to do some nessus testing so far..
[02:43] < huebi> tsa: Did you take the maintainership of nessus? That would be great.
[02:45] < tsa> huebi: i'm already the maintainer of nessus for 1.7-dev, so updating those in both trees wouldn't make too much additional work for me.. ;-)
[02:45] < huebi> fabulous *g*
[02:46] < tsa> ;-)
[02:47] < tsa> anyway, i won't commit this before i hab the time to do some more testing..
[02:47] < tsa> s/hab/had/
[03:14] < huebi> So, mail ist draussen
[03:14] < tsa> fein.
[03:26] < huebi> ach so. Gnome1 ist jetzt eine separate Kategorie, getrennt von KDE und X11
[03:30] < tsa> hm..ok
[03:30] < tsa> ..solange nicht gleich jedes stueck software, das irgendwie gegen gtk linkt, zu gnome-software ernannt wird.. ;-)
[03:31] < huebi> erleichtert spaeter den Wechsel zu Gnome 2.x
[03:31] < tsa> jupp
[03:32] < huebi> tsa: Ich schreibe eine Liste mit allen Packeten, die in Gnome sind und die, die in X11 geblieben sind an die Liste zur weiteren discusion. Erstmal den ersten Schritt, sonst wird das mir Gnome2 nie etwas.\
[03:33] < huebi> Gnome 2 istr ein _muss_ fuer x86-64
[03:33] < tsa> ja, vermutlich..
[03:34] < huebi> und sparc64.
[03:35]   SMP waer ja eher dafuer weder Gnome 1.2 noch Gnome 2 zu haben..
[03:35] < SMP> (dafuer ein KDE wo das Hilfesystem nicht komplett nicht funktioniert)
[03:36] < huebi> eieiei - KDE muckt auch....
[03:36] < huebi> SMP: hi btw
[03:38] < tsa> *nerv*
[03:39] < tsa> wieso krieg ich hier andauernd cksum-errors? kuemmern die leute sich nicht mal um das einfachste zeug?
[03:39] < huebi> hmm. ich fixe die in base und opt immer, bevor ich comitte
[03:40] < tsa> 1.7
[03:40] < huebi> for i in `ls base-archive/*/*err | sed s/.cksum-err//` ; do mv -v $i.cksum-err $i; done
[03:40] < tsa> aktuell: gnome-control-center-14
[03:40] < huebi> so geht's auch.
[03:40] < huebi> *g*
[03:41] < tsa> [M] Rene Rebe <rene@rocklinux.org>
[03:41] < tsa> ARGH.
[03:41] < SMP> hehe. mal zusaetzlich ne 400MB swapspace LV angelegt. mein X Server hat irgendwie nen memleak und der OOM killer mag den Opera nicht :}
[03:41] < huebi> SMP: Die Loesung mit der Brechstange....
[03:41] < tsa> rxr_: falls du mal wach werden solltest - fix mal deine cksums.
[03:42] < SMP> huebi: der kann ruhig ein paar Hundert MB davon rausswappen - solange er sie nie mehr reinswappen muss... ;>
[03:42] < SMP> . o O ( swapon /dev/null )
[03:43] < tsa> hehe
[03:43] < huebi> *g*
[03:43] < tsa> macht rxr_ eigentlich ueberhaupt noch was - irgendwie hoert man da gar nix mehr..
[03:44] < huebi> tsa: cat rxr >/dev/female
[03:44] < tsa> lol
[03:44] < tsa> huebi: grep rxr /dev/female
[03:44] < huebi> hehe
[03:44] < tsa> rm /dev/female || rm -f rxr_
[03:44] < tsa> ;)
[03:45] < huebi> https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ju-21.12.02-000/ <- Man, sind die schlau. Darueber habe ich dieses Jahr schon 3 Vortraege gehalten.
[03:46]   SMP findet es eher gar nicht lustig dass (wieso) 1.5 Rene's Wissen verloren hat
[03:47] < tsa> SMP: naja, schlimmer ist IMHO, dass er teilweise Unmengen von packages uebernommen hat, um die sich jetzt keiner kuemmert..
[03:47] < huebi> Ich auch nicht, aber wohl erst beim 19C3 wieder yu aendern, wenn ueberhaupt. Genau so ist es aber auch mit Cliffords wissen.
[03:54] < huebi> cu tomorrow. Nacht
[03:55] < tsa> cu huebi
[03:55] < SMP> bye
[03:57] < tsa> ich geh auch mal pennen..
[03:58] < tsa> n8
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[06:09] < aszlig> rehi
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[09:43] < raffi> hi
[09:58] < raffi> ah, sorry
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[10:46] < tcr> moin all
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[11:32] < holyolli> moin
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[11:32] < holyolli> hi bluefire
[11:32] < bluefire> moin holyolli
[11:32] < tcr> moin holyolli and bluefire
[11:33] < bluefire> moin moin ;)
[11:33] < holyolli> hi tcr
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[12:07] < holyolli> moin owl
[12:07] < owl> re
[12:08] < owl> holyolli: meine anwesenheit ist vn kurzer dauer... ich penn weiter :)
[12:08] < holyolli> owl: och
[12:08] < holyolli> <-- is jetzt traurig
[12:10] < tcr> glück gehabt ;)
[12:10] < holyolli> hehe
[12:12] < owl> holyolli: och, kannst einem ja direkt leid tun. :P
[12:12] < holyolli> owl: ich bitte drum...
[12:13] < holyolli> btw. bist du eigentlich auf dem ccc? ich brauche noch wen zum kaffeekochen
[12:13] < owl> holyolli: ja bin ich. aber ich kann keinen kaffee kochen - es sei denn du willst mit vergiftungserscheinungen ins krankenhaus eingeliefert werden
[12:16] < owl> holyolli: wie geht's btw?
[12:16] < tcr> klar, holyolli unser kleiner masochist
[12:16] < owl> tcr: du solltest nicht immer von dir auf andere schliessen
[12:26] < holyolli> owl: ich bin am lernen...naja..im moment eher weniger
[12:26] < holyolli> owl: aber ich sollte...aber sonst gehts mir gut, weil ich heute ins hotel mama fahre ;)
[12:26] < holyolli> tcr: ich dachte eher, dass owl darauf steht andere zu quaelen...
[12:27] < tcr> das ist bei der psychosomatisch bedingt ;)
[12:27] < holyolli> ahso...na dann
[12:38] < owl> WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! es gibt arschloecher und es gibt meinen vater! *kotz*
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[14:25] < LocalHero> Wahho
[14:25] < LocalHero> Hello all
[14:45] < owl> re
[14:45] < owl> hi LocalHero
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[14:51] < tcr> re
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[15:01] < tcr> moin simon
[15:01] < simon> hello
[15:02] < owl> hi simon
[15:06] < simon> I've a problem with the installation of the new iso image (1.6pre1 iso.rocklinux.de), the floppy boot disks don't work.
[15:07] < owl> the root-disk doesn't work... that's a known problem...
[15:08] < simon> hmm, and i can't boot from cd.
[15:08] < simon> owl is there a workaround?
[15:09] < owl> hm. i guess on the website there's a workaround written...?
[15:09] < owl> https://www.rocklinux.de/projects/rock16/
[15:10] < simon> I#'ll lock, thank you!
[15:10] < owl> simon: do you have a running installation and do you want to install the rock-1.6-pre on another partition?
[15:11] < simon> no :-(
[15:11] < owl> urgs :-/
[15:12] < simon> The website says I should boot a root on my local hdd... sh**
[15:13] < simon> hmm, is the Install binary located?
[15:13] < simon> CDROM?
[15:13] < owl> pardon?
[15:14] < simon> hmm.. it's on cdrom, sorry ;-)
[15:14] < owl> you mean Install.bin?
[15:14] < simon> yes
[15:14] < simon> I'll try with a redhat boot disk.
[15:14] < owl> hm.
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[15:26] < tcr> re
[15:27] < tcr> simon: yes, that's right to do
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[16:49] < owl> hi blindcod*
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[17:08] < huebi> Moin
[17:28] < owl> hi huebi
[17:30] < netcrow> moin leute
[17:33] < fake> moin.
[17:33] < fake> netti: check mail...
[17:36] < owl> hi netcrow, fake
[17:36] < netcrow> ok (das treibt die load wieder auf 5 hoch...*g* blöder spamfilter)
[17:38] < fake> netcrow: 30!
[17:39] < netcrow> 37
[17:40] < fake> das ist alles andere als gut
[17:40] < fake> kannst du nicht bei dir zu hause nen fetchmail machen und den spamassassin da laufen lassen?
[17:41] < netcrow> jaja, mach ich normal auch...
[17:41] < netcrow> brb kurz essen, dann mail lesen, noch is nix da
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[17:56] < huebi> cu later
[17:56] < tcr> aah
[17:56] < tcr> huebi: !
[18:09] < netcrow> fake: i have no mail
[18:10] < fake> netcrow: i sent you a screenshot of top of your spamassassin...
[18:11] < netcrow> okay, this has recieved
[18:12] < fake> that's what i ment...
[18:12] < netcrow> ahso
[18:12] < netcrow> normally i fetch my mail directly from bingo. gmx etc...
[18:12] < netcrow> ;)
[18:13] < fake> netcrow: then you could remove the spamassassin from your .procmailrc, right?
[18:13] < fake> would be a bit "relaxing" ;)
[18:14] < snyke> hmm
[18:14] < snyke> howto tanslate "fries"?
[18:14] < snyke> "pommes" can hardly be the meaning of it
[18:14] < netcrow> done
[18:14] < snyke> You can feed on fries that float in the air above the city...
[18:14] < snyke> what means "fries"?!
[18:15] < tcr> fritten
[18:15] < snyke> das passt doch aber ned oder?
[18:15] < tcr> doch
[18:15] < netcrow> hm, should i reinstall my laptop before ccc?
[18:15] < snyke> fritten die in der Luft über der Stadt fliegen?!
[18:16] < tcr> hm
[18:16] < snyke> na gut.
[18:16] < snyke> hm
[18:16] < snyke> kann man Gameplay übersetzen?
[18:16] < tcr> dunno maybe some kind of idiom
[18:17] < tcr> unübersetzbar
[18:24] < fake> snyke: spielspass?
[18:24] < fake> naja...
[18:28] < netcrow> snyke: use https://dict.leo.org
[18:36] < snyke> I already do.
[18:37] < snyke> fake: hmm
[18:37] < snyke> The gameplay is mission based.
[18:37] < snyke> Der Spielspass basiert auf Missionen :)
[18:42] < owl> snyke: aeh? wtf do you need that stuff for?
[18:43] < snyke> top secret :)
[18:44] < snyke> well, happypenguin.org provides a newsletter for linux-community.de and later if the people like it we also give stuff for linux-user
[18:44] < snyke> but don't tell anyone.
[18:45] < owl> snyke: *lol* google is watching you
[18:45] < snyke> I know.
[18:46] < owl> <-- away again. cu later
[19:09] < simon> is perl5.8 (in iso.rocklinux.de 1.6pre1) compiled with threads?
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[19:13] < tcr> mom simon
[19:14] < tcr> simon: https://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/base-config/perl5/perl5.conf?rev=1.3&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup
[19:15] < tcr> simon:as  you can see yourself it's commented out. So the answer must be 'No, it isnt'
[19:15] < simon> tcr thank you.
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[19:24] < tcr> simon: do you want/need it?
[19:25] < simon> perhaps for apache2 with mod_perl
[19:26] < simon> if you want to use the threading models with mod_perl enabled, you need perl with threading..
[19:26] < tcr> well, then just remove the comment in /usr/src/rock-src/base-config/perl5/perl5.conf and call ./script/Build-Pkg perl5 in /usr/src/rock-src in the running 1.6 system
[19:27] < tcr> oh
[19:27] < tcr> before calling Build-Pkg, you certainly have to run ./scripts/Download -package perl5
[19:27] < tcr> to get the sources..
[19:27] < simon> ok, thank you.. have to leave now! Bye..
[19:28] < tcr> good bye
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[19:53] < tsa> moin.
[19:54] < tcr> moin
[19:55]   tsa baut grad nen komplettes gnome-1.4 mit gcc 3.2.1 per hand neu..
[19:55] < tcr> viel spaß
[19:56] < tsa> dummdidumm..
[19:57] < tsa> imlib..
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[20:08] < tsa> re tcr
[20:08] < tcr> re
[20:20] < owl> *yawn* wie viele jahre braucht der gcc-3.2.1 zum bauen?
[20:20] < tcr> 4
[20:20] < tsa> owl: hm...40min oder so
[20:20] < owl> scheint so.
[20:21] < owl> tsa: 40 minuten? bitte? ich builde ca. schon 2 std... (433 mhz)
[20:21] < tsa> huh?
[20:21] < tsa> komisch
[20:21] < owl> ja. wuerde ich auch sagen...
[20:22] < owl> tsa: auf welchem PC braucht der ca. 40 minuten (mhz, mb ram...?)
[20:23] < tsa> owl: p3-750, 384mb
[20:24] < owl> oh mann... irgendwas mach ich echt falsch... :-/
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[20:28] < LocalHero> Hi all
[20:28] < tsa> hi localhero
[20:28] < owl> hi LocalHero
[20:28] < LocalHero> tsa, owl, whatz up?
[20:29] < tsa> not much.
[20:29] < tsa> just recompiling gnome-14 on my system..
[20:29] < tcr> hi LocalHero
[20:30] < LocalHero> tsa. nice, im almost finnished with my second 1.6.0-pre1 build
[20:30] < LocalHero> Wow, it takes some time to do the build
[20:30] < LocalHero> i wounder if dnetc slows the build process down
[20:30] < tsa> localhero: oh, i don't use the rock tree for this....doing everything by hand..
[20:30] < LocalHero> tsa. Haha :)
[20:47] < tsa> ..and rock's gnome-14 stuff is outdated..
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[22:13] < dennis> hoi
[22:16] < tcr> moin
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[23:26] < LocalHero> Hello all
[23:26] < owl> hello again LocalHero
[23:27] < LocalHero> Just a question. Im building rock-isos right now. Is there a major difference in build time when you are doing different optimizions?
[23:27] < LocalHero> k7- takes alot of time :(
[23:28] < tsa> more optimisation takes more time, basically..
[23:30] < LocalHero> hmm, oki, well, it has been building for some time now, I think its finnished any time. I got a new 2ghz to play with :)
[23:31] < tsa> nice
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[23:31] < tsa> still working with my dual p3-750..
[23:31] < martin_> hi
[23:31] < tsa> sufficient for me..
[23:31] < tsa> hi martin
[23:31] < martin_> hi tsa
[23:31] < owl> moin martin_
[23:31] < LocalHero> tsa, that should be enough :)
[23:31] < martin_> hi owl
[23:31] < tsa> hi owl!
[23:31] < tsa> *hug*
[23:32] < tsa> how's you gcc-3?
[23:32] < tsa> +r
[23:32] < owl> tsa: compiling...
[23:32] < tsa> still?
[23:32] < tsa> urghs
[23:32] < owl> since about 18 o'clock
[23:32] < tsa> something seems to be wrong, then..
[23:32] < owl> i guess it's a bit - strange... (ok)
[23:33] < owl> i dunno...
[23:33] < owl> 5 hours for an gcc... hm...
[23:33] < tsa> slow ide disks, not enough memory or something?
[23:33] < owl> simply called notebook (gericom...)
[23:33] < tsa> ah..
[23:33] < tsa> 5h are ok, then
[23:34] < tsa> gericom.. *lol*
[23:34] < owl> *cries*
[23:34] < owl> heh, don't laugh... my gericom is still alive... and ok for builds :)
[23:34] < tsa> let's guess...80% of the hardware in the laptop uses the same interrupt?
[23:35] < tsa> gericom just sucks
[23:35] < owl> *g* i really don't wanna know
[23:35] < owl> yes... but asus is great imho :)
[23:40] < LocalHero> Got to go, cya all :)
[23:40] < owl> bye LocalHero
[23:40] < martin_> hmmm, anyone here use BeOS, too?
[23:42] < tsa> cu localhero
[23:42] < tsa> martin: uhm...nope
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[23:50] < owl> YEAH! gcc-build finished! i can't believe my eyes! *jumpingaround*
[23:51] < tsa> hehe
[23:52] < owl> tsa: don't laugh. i thought i will become insane by building gcc-3.2.1 ;P
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Mon Dec 23 00:00:20 2002