--- Log opened Sat Dec 28 00:00:50 2002 --- Day changed Sat Dec 28 2002 00:12 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-129-14-bs2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 00:12 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-129-14-bs2.tiscali.ch] has quit (Client Quit) 00:43 -!- Netsplit sterling.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: praenti, blindcod1r, huebi, ichilton, simon, tsa, mayan, kasc_, tcr, hannes__, (+3 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 00:46 -!- Netsplit over, joins: praenti, tcr, simon, ichilton, bluefire, tsa, kasc_, blindcod1r, rxr, huebi (+3 more) 00:50 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50812E0B.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 00:52 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9E113C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 00:52 < Be-El> hi ppl 00:53 < tsa> moin bello. 00:55 < Be-El> na, brav am package-fixen ? ;-) 00:55 < tsa> was macht dein athlon-build? 00:55 < tsa> hehe 00:55 < Be-El> stage 7 durch....und vor stage 9 wollte ich mir die kaputten packages nochmal anschaun 00:55 < Be-El> meiner meinung nach sollte man gnome-14 und gnome-20 _ganz_ rauswerfen 00:55 < Be-El> und wer ist auf die hirnrissige idee gekommen, pakete nach ihren versionsnummern zu benennen (siehe gal-019) 00:56 < tsa> hehe 00:56 < tsa> wir koennten rene morgen erschiessen, reicht das? ;) 00:57 < Be-El> zumal mal jemand die ganzen gnome-14 sachen aktualisieren sollte 00:57 < Be-El> neee...fesselt ihn an den rechner und lasst ihn das fixen 00:57 < tsa> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 18:32:21 +0100 00:57 < tsa> From: Sebastian Jaenicke 00:57 < tsa> Subject: 1.7 gnome-14 00:57 < tsa> archive.progeny.com ist absolut outdated.. 00:58 < tsa> einige sachen sind noch gleich, aber der grossteil ist 1.4.2 afaik 00:58 < Be-El> hmmm.....die mail hab ich gar nicht... 00:58 < tsa> <- hab letzte woche gnome 1.4 komplett von hand gebaut, weil die packages irgendwie vorne und hinten nicht passen... 00:59 < tsa> die war auch off-list direkt an rene.. 01:05 < Be-El> so...mal cdrdao fixen 01:06 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F115.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 01:08 < Be-El> moin blindcod 01:08 < Be-El> +er 01:11 < Be-El> *narf* /usr/include/libintl.h:40: parse error before `__const' 01:12 < tsa> hehe 01:14 < Be-El> zu welchen paket gehoert das ? 01:15 < tsa> libintl.h? 01:15 < tsa> gettext vermutlich 01:19 < Be-El> nope...da sieht das anders aus 01:19 < Be-El> ich tippe mal fast auf den gcc 01:20 < Be-El> In file included from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.1/include/c++/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bits/c++locale.h:39, 01:20 < Be-El> usw... 01:20 < tsa> oh fein, dann bist du wohl auch soweit.. 01:20 < tsa> kommt mir alles recht bekannt vor.. 01:20 < Be-El> nope....bau gettext einfach mal neu ;-) 01:20 < tsa> hehe 01:20 < Be-El> falls es danach klappt wisst ihr, was zu tun ist....gettext in stage 5 packen 01:20 < tsa> ;) 01:21 < Be-El> sofern der gcc bzw. die libstdc++ dann noch tut 01:21 < Be-El> make[2]: Entering directory `/R.src/gettext-0.11.5/misc' 01:21 < Be-El> WARNING: Warnings can be ignored. :-) 01:21 < Be-El> komisches volk, diese gnu 01:22 < tsa> jupp 01:23 < Be-El> bzw...wer ist maintainer fuer mozilla ? 01:23 < tsa> hehehe 01:23 < tsa> du stellst aber komische fragen.. 01:23 < Be-El> nimm mal das -j 4 beim make raus 01:24 < Be-El> auf nicht-smp-system will man komplexe c++-sourcen nicht parallel bauen... 01:25 < Be-El> bei c-sourcen ist das ok, c++ ist wesentlich resourcenhungriger 01:25 < tsa> hm.hast du die aktuelle version des packages? 01:25 < Be-El> jupp...cvs version 01:25 < tsa> ich hab hier vor ein paar tagen mozilla gebaut, da war das package schon broken wegen irgendwelcher kaputter --with-mozilla-libs usw.-statements 01:26 < Be-El> das ist galeon....ich meine mozilla selber 01:26 < tsa> ah,jo 01:26 < Be-El> bei galeon laesst sich das fixen --with-mozilla-snapshot=trunk 01:26 < Be-El> allerding kommt dann nachher ein anderer fehler 01:26 < tsa> hm...wollte ebenfalls nicht, ich hab dann doch wieder den 1.2 genommen.. 01:26 < Be-El> und immer noch parse error 01:27 < tsa> hm.. 01:27 < tsa> wobei? 01:27 < Be-El> cdrdao 01:27 < tsa> ah 01:27 < Be-El> /opt/gnome/include/gnome-1.0/libgnome/gnome-i18n.h:31:1: warning: "gettext" redefined 01:27 < tsa> hehe 01:27 < Be-El> /usr/include/libintl.h:110:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition 01:27 < Be-El> ich weiss, warum ich gnome nicht mag 01:31 < Be-El> dein nvidia-package ist uebrigens auch kaputt ;-) 01:31 < Be-El> und ethereal meckert immer noch 01:34 -!- blindcod1r [blindcoder@pD958F263.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:38 < Be-El> so....und wech 01:40 -!- Be-El [be-el@pD9E113C9.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Client Exiting") 01:57 -!- Parabull [~Parabull@62.99.178.159] has joined #rocklinux 02:03 < aszlig> 'lo 02:03 < aszlig> and rehi 02:08 * tsa 0wnz ethernet 02:08 < tsa> ftp upload with 10mb/s 02:08 < aszlig> tsa: hmm? 02:08 < aszlig> *gg* 02:08 < tsa> nice. 02:09 < aszlig> sounds neat :) 02:09 < aszlig> my hdd is currentli in pio-mode... 02:09 < aszlig> s/tli/tly/ 02:09 < tsa> my hdd doesn't have pio mode. 02:09 < tsa> ;) 02:09 < aszlig> hehe 02:09 < tsa> scsi rulez. 02:09 < aszlig> my hdd don't even get 1mb/s 02:10 * aszlig wished, that he took his alpha with him... 02:10 < tsa> hehe 02:10 < aszlig> there i've got scsi, too ;P 02:12 < aszlig> YAAAAAH! 02:12 < aszlig> hehe 02:12 < aszlig> dimmu rules :) 02:23 -!- blindcoder [blindcoder@pD9E4F115.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:51 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-248-123-zh2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 03:29 -!- apan [~guz@as20-6-5.kp.g.bonet.se] has joined #rocklinux 04:25 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522AA8.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 05:02 -!- apan [~guz@as20-6-5.kp.g.bonet.se] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:34 -!- kasc__ [~shaman@p50908CAA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 05:52 -!- kasc_ [~shaman@p5090B566.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:04 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-248-123-zh2.tiscali.ch] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:09 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-248-123-zh2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 06:22 -!- dennis_ [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has joined #rocklinux 06:22 < dennis_> hallo 06:27 < th> hi dennis_ 06:34 -!- tsa [~tsa@213.173.58.231] has quit (Remote closed the connection) 06:34 -!- tsa [~tsa@213.173.58.231] has joined #rocklinux 06:34 < tsa> re 06:35 < dennis_> jep 07:35 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-248-123-zh2.tiscali.ch] has quit () 09:14 -!- hdw_user0 [~c428058a@196.40.30.180] has joined #rocklinux 09:15 -!- hdw_user0 is now known as demian 09:15 < demian> hi all 09:19 < th> hi demian 09:19 < demian> mr. th 09:19 < demian> 19c3 going ? 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"Give a reason" rules! 13:13 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@p50813BBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:18 -!- bluefire [bluefire@pD9522BD4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 13:22 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813D4C.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:23 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 13:28 -!- owl [~mail-spam@213.173.58.15] has quit ("leaving") 13:41 -!- martin_ [~martin@213.173.58.239] has joined #rocklinux 14:16 -!- netcrow [~toberkel@213.173.52.129] has joined #rocklinux 14:17 -!- netcrow [~toberkel@213.173.52.129] has quit (Client Quit) 14:20 < tsa> moin 14:21 < huebi> moin tsa 14:21 < huebi> tsa: gut geschlafen 14:21 < huebi> ? 14:31 < tsa> moin huebi 14:31 < tsa> hm..geht so 14:31 < tsa> viel zu wenig natuerlich, aber was soll's .. 14:43 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813BBE.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 15:17 < huebi> tsa: Ist bei dir das Netz auch so lahm? 15:17 < tsa> huebi: jupp 15:20 < huebi> hmmm 15:29 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813F68.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 15:30 < tcr> huebi , th ? 15:41 -!- martin_ [~martin@213.173.58.239] has quit ("Client Exiting") 15:56 -!- kasc__ is now known as kasc 15:56 < kasc> moin 16:13 < tcr> huebi !!! th !!! 16:16 < huebi> tcr: Moin! 16:17 < tcr> aaah, there is even something alive! ;) moin 16:18 < tcr> huebi: How does it come that we've already pre3 in the CVS but pre2 has never been released ??? 16:29 < tcr> ... 16:50 -!- sts [~sts@213.173.54.37] has joined #rocklinux 17:36 < th> tcr: pre2 HAS been released ;) 17:36 < th> tcr: it just wasn't _that_ public 17:36 < th> there are no images 17:36 < th> but we are back building pre3 17:36 < th> and we seem to be sync with current cvs-trunk 17:37 < th> except for 4 Build-* scripts which we had to downgrade to have a working build-env 17:37 < tcr> i'm puzzeling on the Build-Pkg problem 17:38 < th> yes. we just encoutered a (i hope so) minor problem 17:39 < th> with kdebindings 17:39 < th> some gtk issue 17:41 < tcr> i can't really localize the bug, because i changed the way on how we say when a error occured to evaluating the MTIME of some files. This causes that sometimes 00-dirtree is built, sometimes not 17:50 < th> hmmm 17:50 < th> but it seems all smooth with: 17:50 < th> /Build-All/1.21/Sat Dec 28 07:26:12 2002//T1.21 17:50 < th> /Build-Pkg/1.14/Sat Dec 28 07:26:35 2002//T1.14 17:50 < th> /Build-Stage/1.3/Sat Dec 28 07:27:43 2002//T1.3 17:50 < th> /Build-Tar/1.6/Sat Dec 28 07:28:03 2002//T1.6 17:50 < th> 1.21, 1.14, 1.3, 1.6 17:54 < tcr> yeah, but 1.21 is buggy 18:01 < tcr> brb 18:01 -!- tcr [~tobrit@p50813F68.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 18:05 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49CFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:13 < fake> bu ha. 18:16 -!- dennis_ [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has joined #rocklinux 18:16 < dennis_> hoi 18:28 -!- dennis_ [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has quit ("leaving") 18:34 < th> tcr: wo hasten du den green-console-patch? 18:36 < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/matrix/ 18:37 < tcr> die changes musste aber wahrscheinlich per editor selbst keinkopieren 18:41 < tcr> th: lol! ich hab den verdammten fehler gefunden, und zwar indem ich mir mal die quellen von fl_wrapper.so angeschaut habe 18:42 < tcr> th: ich muss jetzt ein wenig Build-Pkg umstellen 18:42 < tcr> aber nur ein wenig 18:43 < th> tcr: ok. wir werden die genannten versionen als pre3 taggen und dann erst integrieren 18:55 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49CFD.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 18:58 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D6D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:09 * aszlig expecting "tcr hails all" 19:13 < tcr> hail aszlig 19:19 < tcr> ok th, huebi. The bug seems to be eliminated. am committing it 19:20 -!- neddiemaster [neddiemast@ppp28-003-gw06.athens.access.acn.gr] has joined #rocklinux 19:20 < neddiemaster> hello 19:20 < tcr> chaire neddiemaster 19:20 < neddiemaster> anyone alive in here 19:20 < neddiemaster> hi tcr 19:20 * tcr . 19:20 < tcr> th: ping 19:20 < th> tcr: ack 19:20 < neddiemaster> he he 19:20 < tcr> neddiemaster: why? what's up 19:20 < neddiemaster> this is suposed to be the main irc thing for roclinux ? 19:20 < neddiemaster> nah i just wanted to koin 19:21 < neddiemaster> LFS man here 19:21 < neddiemaster> :) 19:21 < neddiemaster> th: SYN SYN SYN SYN SYN SYN SYN SYN 19:21 < tcr> if we used LFS, there wouldn't be ROCKLinux 19:21 < aszlig> ACK! 19:22 < th> /kick neddiemaster synflood 19:22 < neddiemaster> ha ha 19:22 < tcr> th: https://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/scripts/Build-Pkg.diff?r1=1.14&r2=1.14.2.1 19:22 < neddiemaster> oopsy i will come back later dudes 19:22 < neddiemaster> i have to go to the kictecn a bit 19:22 < tcr> th: line 433 19:22 < neddiemaster> l8r 19:23 < tcr> bye 19:23 -!- neddiemaster [neddiemast@ppp28-003-gw06.athens.access.acn.gr] has quit () 19:23 < tcr> th: i've checked out a completely new rock-1.5 this morning 19:23 < tcr> and this change doesnt seem to be there 19:23 < th> tcr: we are going to tag pre3 in about 80 minutes 19:24 < tcr> th: yeah, but why wasnt that merged?? 19:24 < th> tcr: i've did not sleep last night... 19:24 < th> s,'ve,, 19:24 < th> tcr: which changes do you mean? 19:25 < tcr> https://cvs.rocklinux.de/cvs/viewcvs.cgi/rock-1.5/scripts/Build-Pkg.diff?r1=1.14&r2=1.14.2.1 19:26 < th> tcr: ouhm... are you still committing to pre1 branch? 19:26 < tcr> actually not 19:27 < tcr> th: but this change should have been merged into main 19:27 < th> well. we have a 1.16 from 2002/12/23 11:27:54 19:27 < th> tcr: and you committed to revision 1.14.2.1 from 2002/12/17 16:39:00 19:28 < tcr> that means? 19:28 < th> tcr: what is in your scripts/CVS/ dir? 19:28 < tcr> mom 19:30 < tcr> (currently checking out to prevent talking crap) 19:31 < tcr> ok. 19:32 < tcr> the changes werent merged 19:32 < tcr> >_< 19:32 < th> due to lack of commitment? 19:32 < tcr> i actually committed them against 'release-1_6_0pre1-patches' 19:33 < th> ok. 19:33 < th> that explains a lot 19:33 < tcr> hm 19:33 < tcr> well, i could commit them once again 19:33 < tcr> should I do? 19:33 < th> ok. just checkout a fresh copy. 19:33 < th> and copy scripts into it. 19:34 < th> and commit 19:34 < tcr> jaja :P that dumb i'm not yet 19:35 < th> sorry. no offence intended... 19:35 < th> i'm just noticed a drain on concentration 19:35 < th> ouhm 19:35 < th> causes typos... 19:39 -!- thalerim [~tobrit@pD9E49557.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 19:47 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D6D3.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:50 -!- thalerim is now known as tcr 19:52 < tcr> so.. both things are committed now 19:57 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.252] has joined #rocklinux 19:57 < demian> hi 19:59 * tcr away: eating 19:59 < tcr> hi demian 19:59 < demian> umm :) 20:05 -!- demian [~hdw_user@196.40.64.252] has quit ("leaving") 20:12 < tcr> rw 20:12 < tcr> re 20:13 < th> just a question of minutes... 20:16 < tcr> th: hmm, could you also run a build with the new gcc stack protector? 20:17 < tcr> https://freebits.de/trash/sonstiges/patches/rocklinux/gcc-protector-patch-1.6.diff 20:17 < tcr> that doesn't enable the stack protector per default though 20:17 < th> tcr: when this build is finished we will tag and merge your Build-scripts. 20:17 < th> after that scsi-boot follows 20:17 < tcr> oh 20:19 -!- neddiemaster [neddiemast@ppp26-173-gw02.athens.access.acn.gr] has joined #rocklinux 20:19 < neddiemaster> hello again 20:20 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD9E49557.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 20:21 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DECC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 20:22 < tcr> th: hmm, could you open ext-config/xmms/xmms.ext please 20:23 < neddiemaster> hi tcr 20:23 < neddiemaster> sorry i canot help you in this 20:23 < neddiemaster> i know shit about xmms 20:23 < tcr> therefore i'm talking to th :P 20:25 < neddiemaster> yeah but he is syn - flooding someone else now ... 20:25 < neddiemaster> :P 20:25 < th> tcr: "open"? 20:25 < tcr> th: less is more 20:25 < th> tcr: i'm afraid i lost you?! 20:25 < tcr> $EDITOR 20:25 < tcr> or open it with whatever 20:26 < th> ahhhh 20:26 < th> yes ok. 20:26 < th> what's your matter? 20:26 < tcr> [V] 1.2.2 (rock-ext: $Revision: 1.3 $) 20:26 < th> yea? 20:26 < tcr> i intend to update this package, should I just remove the (rock-ext...? 20:26 < th> yes. should be no problem 20:27 < tcr> ok, that's all 20:27 < th> fine 20:28 < neddiemaster> th : you knwo a lot about the insides of rock ? 20:28 < th> neddiemaster: it's quite rocky inside rock. 20:29 < th> neddiemaster: what's your question? 20:35 -!- neddiemaster [neddiemast@ppp26-173-gw02.athens.access.acn.gr] has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:41 -!- sts [~sts@213.173.54.37] has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:42 -!- sts [~sts@213.173.52.106] has joined #rocklinux 20:44 -!- sts [~sts@213.173.52.106] has quit (Client Quit) 21:04 < tsa> re 21:08 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958DECC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("Ho chresim eidos uch hoch poll eidos sophos") 21:24 -!- ak|ra [~mathias@p508836DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 21:24 < ak|ra> hello 21:24 < ak|ra> question: what is the difference to append some kerneloptions in lilo.conf or to hack them by hand at boottime? 21:29 < ak|ra> th: frohes fest uebrigens noch :) 21:34 < kasc> ak|ra: if they dont work for what reason or ever you can recover easier when its only a lilo option 21:35 < ak|ra> ?dont get it? 21:35 < kasc> oh, misread... thought you meant buildtime ;) 21:36 < ak|ra> perhaps i should explain the prob deeper :) 21:36 < kasc> putting those options to lilo.conf is just a matter of lazyness 21:36 < ak|ra> i got an old board (p55tb4xe) -> isnt able to recognize my wd 80 gig hdd 21:37 < ak|ra> so i let the bios ignore the ide1 - channel and put at boottime: 21:37 < ak|ra> mykernel vga=ask root=/dev/hda3 (i boot from a normal small disk) ide1=0x170,0x376,15 21:37 < ak|ra> and THIS will give me my big hdc in all its shinyness 21:37 < ak|ra> BUT 21:38 < ak|ra> if i do a append="ide1=0x170,0x376,15" the result isnt very satisfieing 21:39 < kasc> what happens when you use append? 21:40 < ak|ra> hdc isnt there 21:41 < kasc> did you put the lines in lilo.conf in the correct order? 21:41 < ak|ra> at the moment i thinking about givin "literal" a chance 21:41 < ak|ra> kasc: in what order? 21:42 < kasc> inside the corresponding image block 21:44 < kasc> (below the line image=yourkernel) 21:45 < ak|ra> of coz 21:45 < ak|ra> :) 21:46 < kasc> there should only be a difference to the kernel if some parts dont get appended correctly 21:46 < kasc> did you use multiple append= lines? 21:47 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has joined #rocklinux 21:47 < Mike1> moin all 21:47 < ak|ra> nope 21:48 < kasc> moin Mike1 21:48 < kasc> ak|ra: then i can only recommend trying grub ;) 21:49 < ak|ra> thought so too 21:49 < ak|ra> but .. big problem :) 21:50 < kasc> doesnt work? 21:50 < ak|ra> my current workstation is running a newer and gcc321 based glibc than the one of the target 21:53 < kasc> does that matter? dont you build grub statically? 21:54 < ak|ra> never :) 21:54 < kasc> never? 21:54 < ak|ra> never 21:55 < kasc> its usually difficult for dynamically linked programs to find the corresponding libs before a kernel provides filesystem support... 21:56 < ak|ra> :) true 21:57 < ak|ra> but if grub is started (stage123) it doesnt matter 21:58 < kasc> so did you already try grub? 21:58 < ak|ra> on my workstation yes 21:59 < ak|ra> there it works 21:59 < kasc> and on that other box? 21:59 < ak|ra> there not 22:01 < kasc> then i would suggest you to try it there, too ;) 22:04 < ak|ra> perhaps 22:04 < ak|ra> ye 22:04 < ak|ra> s 22:04 < ak|ra> indeed 22:05 < ak|ra> but i see in fact no real reason for lilo NOT to work 22:06 < kasc> from my understanding it should be equivalent if you put it in an append= line in the config file or if you type it at boottime 22:07 < kasc> you could only try to upgrade... perhaps its a bug and hopefully already discovered and fixed 22:08 * Mike1 wonders what problem is ak|ra having ... 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:36 < ak|ra> i got an old board (p55tb4xe) -> isnt able to recognize my wd 80 gig hdd 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:37 < ak|ra> so i let the bios ignore the ide1 - channel and put at boottime: 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:37 < ak|ra> mykernel vga=ask root=/dev/hda3 (i boot from a normal small disk) ide1=0x170,0x376,15 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:38 < ak|ra> and THIS will give me my big hdc in all its shinyness 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:38 < ak|ra> BUT 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:38 < ak|ra> if i do a append="ide1=0x170,0x376,15" the result isnt very satisfieing 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:40 < kasc> what happens when you use append? 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:40 < ak|ra> hdc isnt there 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:36 < ak|ra> i got an old board (p55tb4xe) -> isnt able to recognize my wd 80 gig hdd 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:37 < ak|ra> so i let the bios ignore the ide1 - channel and put at boottime: 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:37 < ak|ra> mykernel vga=ask root=/dev/hda3 (i boot from a normal small disk) ide1=0x170,0x376,15 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:38 < ak|ra> and THIS will give me my big hdc in all its shinyness 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:38 < ak|ra> BUT 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:38 < ak|ra> if i do a append="ide1=0x170,0x376,15" the result isnt very satisfieing 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:40 < kasc> what happens when you use append? 22:10 -!- tcr [~tobrit@pD958D86A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #rocklinux 22:10 < ak|ra> 21:40 < ak|ra> hdc isnt there 22:11 < ak|ra> ah, damn mouse 22:11 < ak|ra> Mike1: thats the problem :) 2 times 22:11 < Mike1> ok let me read :) 22:11 < tcr> re 22:12 < Mike1> ak|ra: shouldnt it be actually append="ide0=0x170,0x376,15" ? 22:14 < ak|ra> not for hdc 22:14 < ak|ra> the disk on secondary master 22:15 < Mike1> append="hdc=0x170,0x376,15" ? 22:16 < ak|ra> the question is: why the manual typing works 22:16 < Mike1> why dont you add it to ur lilo.conf file? 22:16 < tcr> ak|ra: kernel? 22:17 < ak|ra> 2.4.20 22:17 < Mike1> hi tcr btw 22:17 < tcr> moin Mike1 :) 22:17 < Mike1> tcr: i thought you would be at 19c3 22:17 < ak|ra> Mike1: you didnt read it? :) the question is, why does it work for manual handtyping and not by adding the same options in the append line in lilo.conf 22:18 < tcr> ak|ra: ah, ok. Just recognized that writing vga=0x318 into lilo.conf doesnt work, though passing it by directly works just fine 22:18 < tcr> but i'm using 2.5.52 22:18 < tcr> .53 22:18 < tcr> Mike1: nah 22:19 < ak|ra> tcr: mysterioes behavior right? :) 22:19 < Mike1> ak|ra: try an updted lilo version? 22:19 < ak|ra> Mike1: not yet 22:20 < tcr> yeah ak|ra. i'm too busy currently, but if if it survises in 2.5.54, I'll blaim for that on the lkml 22:20 < kasc> i just remember reading something about lilo converting numbers strangely 22:20 < tcr> hmm. 22:20 < Mike1> ak|ra: try that first 22:20 < tcr> indeed I updated lilo recently 22:21 < kasc> in Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt in the kernel tree i think... 22:22 < kasc> no hint towards that in the lilo manpage, tho 22:33 < ak|ra> thanx folks so far 22:42 < fake> kool 22:43 < fake> rock building status display on my cobalt... 22:43 < fake> ;) 22:47 -!- ak|ra [~mathias@p508836DA.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ("leaving") 22:48 < Mike1> nice fake 22:48 < Mike1> have seen Sun lx50? 23:11 -!- zer0_o [~zer0_o@adsl-248-163-zh2.tiscali.ch] has joined #rocklinux 23:12 < Mike1> 0_o 23:12 < zer0_o> o_0 23:12 < zer0_o> «0_o» 23:12 < Mike1> (*)(*) 23:12 < Mike1> opps 23:12 < Mike1> :) 23:12 < zer0_o> ^^ 23:13 < Mike1> how are you zer0_o? 23:35 -!- Mike1 [~mike@odin.informatica.co.cr] has left #rocklinux ("Client Exiting") 23:45 < zer0_o> i'm fine but already away ... 23:45 < zer0_o> =) 23:45 < zer0_o> sry 23:53 -!- dennis_ [~lug00-in@pima.hostsharing.net] has joined #rocklinux 23:53 < dennis_> re --- Log closed Sun Dec 29 00:00:08 2002