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[02:19] <esden> huhu h-k 
[02:27] <h-k> moin
[02:27] <h-k> mal n bischen idlen
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[04:42] <reinaldo> hello
[04:42] <reinaldo> hi
[04:42] <reinaldo> moin
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[04:49] <reinaldo> moin
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[08:16] <blindcoder> moin
[08:16] <h-k> moin
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[16:15] <clifford> daja77: ping!
[16:16] <clifford> .. the URL in [2005071815585006170] still refers to 20050618, you only changed the filename..
[16:17] <daja77> it is a cvs package ...
[16:18] <clifford> yes. the !20050618 at the end of the URL tells scripts/Download which date to check out.
[16:18] <daja77> hm ic
[16:18] <daja77> have to check again
[16:19] <clifford> (it might be a bad idea to use todays date because they might be doing some change later today..)
[16:19] Action: daja77 is confused
[16:19] <clifford> why? how can I help?
[16:20] <daja77> I definitely needed to change that function and now it is back to normal
[16:20] <daja77> yes, can you test if the new pyopenal patch works with the openal in trunk?
[16:20] <clifford> build-only or also functional?
[16:20] <daja77> build-only
[16:21] <daja77> jiba wrote a pysld_mixer wrapper when I told him of the cnages to get rid of openal ...
[16:22] <clifford> daja77: pretty sure not because I had to patch the alutInit() calls many other packages for the openal in trunk.
[16:22] <daja77> you patched them for three arguments?
[16:23] <clifford> yes. as far as I could see, passing NULL should be ok..
[16:23] <daja77> yes but recent openal versions have only two arguments alutInit as before and as it is documented
[16:23] <daja77> crap
[16:24] <daja77> ok tyring again
[16:24] <clifford> so I will remove the patches I have done again. (no problem)
[16:24] <daja77> wait
[16:24] <clifford> okok.. ;-)
[16:25] <daja77> ic in my sm an older openal is used, trying with the new one
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[16:31] <daja77> grrr
[16:31] <daja77> /usr/include/AL/alut.h:ALUTAPI void ALUTAPIENTRY alutInit(int *argc, char *argv[]);
[16:31] <daja77> /usr/include/AL/alut.h:    ALboolean (ALUTAPIENTRY *alutInit)( ALCchar *szDeviceName, ALCdevice **ppDevice, ALCcontext **ppContext );
[16:32] <clifford> so we can remove my patches when upgrading openal..
[16:34] <daja77> looks like that
[16:35] <daja77> interesting comment on the mailinglist, that function doesn't do anything with the arguments atm, so there not needed at all ...
[16:35] <daja77> they are*
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[16:37] <daja77> yes the modified patch works without changing the init, I'll send a clean patch
[16:46] <clifford> great!
[16:46] <daja77> done :)
[16:51] <clifford> daja77: [2005071318193227817] can be discarded now?
[16:51] <daja77> yes
[16:52] Action: clifford did so.
[16:52] <madtux> greetings
[16:52] <clifford> hi
[16:52] <daja77> just kept it because I didn't know if you wanted to keep the other version
[16:52] <daja77> hi madtux 
[16:53] <madtux> howdy cliff and Danny?
[16:53] <clifford> "Danny" ???   *grin*
[16:53] <madtux> haha
[16:53] <daja77> thought nookie was danny ^^
[16:54] <madtux> oh... sorry Mr. Daniel.
[16:54] <madtux> ;-)
[16:54] <daja77> :D
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[17:31] <blindcoder> moin
[17:33] <madtux> hi blindy
[17:33] <blindcoder> moin madtux!
[17:33] <blindcoder> I need to get a larger credit range on my mastercard...
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[19:03] <netrunner> what can I do if on a remote pc my backspace only shows a tilde?
[19:04] <mnemoc> change your term :)
[19:04] <netrunner> well, it's a konsole here.
[19:05] <netrunner> on my laptop via xterm it worked ...
[19:05] <netrunner> aha. maybe I shouldn't force TERM to xterm :)
[19:06] <netrunner> wonderful. now screen says it doesn't know about nxterm
[19:06] <tfing> netrunner: use ^H :)
[19:06] <mnemoc> konsole shall have an option to set backscape and delete keys
[19:07] <blindcoder> xterm-color
[19:07] <mnemoc> :)
[19:10] <blindcoder> also: stty erase ^H
[19:10] <mnemoc> i had forgotten that one
[19:10] Action: blindcoder ponders a daily graph of caught wikispam :)
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[19:34] Action: daja77 setting TERM to linux works much better than xterm-color
[19:38] <netrunner> ah, interesting.
[19:38] <daja77> backspace is working normal there
[19:39] <daja77> I noticed that this nxterm problem only occurs when logging into old systems
[19:53] <netrunner> hm, this is a quite new amd64, so not an old system.
[19:54] <blindcoder> old in terms of software :)
[19:55] <netrunner> debian 3.1
[19:56] <blindcoder> my point exactly ;)
[19:56] <mnemoc> :)
[20:00] <daja77> :D
[20:01] <mnemoc> some people loves debian because it moves slow :\
[20:03] <daja77> like windows
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[21:32] <reinaldo> moin
[21:35] <netrunner> moin reinaldo 
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