-!- Irrsi  Log opened Thu May 01 00:00:24 2003
[00:03] < ringo78> Anybody know why i get RNETLINK answers network is unreachable  ? /etc/network start
[00:04] < tcr> No idea sorry
[00:04] < tcr> esden: Ping
[00:11] < ringo78> ping answers network unreachable. Think its something with iptables...
[00:12] < ringo78> I have an annoying habbit, each time I ask it pops in my mind ... Thanks esden
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[00:24] < Mike1> re.
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[00:38] < ringo78> errrr re
[00:39] < ringo78> me done stupid things today ;-)
[00:40] < Mike1> ringo78: such as?
[00:41] < ringo78> make a swap partition of my old ext2 partition ...
[00:42] < ringo78> real productive ;-)
[00:42] < Mike1> ouch
[00:44] < ringo78> love hurts
[00:45] < Mike1> ringo78: actually not, femeles are the ones that do the hurting job.
[00:46] < ringo78> depends if you're gay ... ;-)
[00:47] < Mike1> ringo78: i am not talking about phisical injuries
[00:47] < ringo78> Ahh its good practice :-)
[00:47] < Mike1> !
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[01:03] < rxr> re
[01:03] < george> hello
[01:05] < ringo78> hello george
[01:06] < Mike1> re rxr
[01:07] < ringo78> Why is there no $NETMASK in /etc/conf/network ?
[01:10] < george> rxr, just sent you a mail, but now that you're here,
[01:10] < george> can I have a svn repo for hotplug with rw access
[01:15] < rxr> 2;-) I'm just replying that this has been already fixed ;-)
[01:16] < rxr> oh - no. I see what you mean. Thanks typo fixed now ;-)
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[01:18] < mnemoc> hi
[01:18] < Mike1> mnemoc: greetings Ale.
[01:19] < mnemoc> hi mike
[01:19] < ringo78> hi mnemoc
[01:19] < mnemoc> (hi)... is rene around here?
[01:19] < Mike1> mnemoc: you look like a whole execute on the pic of the rock devs gallery
[01:19] < mnemoc> :-\
[01:20] < rxr> Committed revision 75.
[01:20] < rxr> hi mnemoc
[01:21] < mnemoc> rxr: hi..can i add a postpkgselconfig.in? <--- what an ugly name....
[01:22] < mnemoc> i need to do to populate a list depending of the installed packages to do a 'choice' after populated
[01:22] < mnemoc> ideas?
[01:24] < rxr> hm for what do you need this ?
[01:24] < mnemoc> initstyle
[01:24] < mnemoc> i want to add runit and minit...
[01:25] < mnemoc> and to can enable simpleinit
[01:25] < rxr> why do you need a postpkgselconfig.in for this ?
[01:26] < mnemoc> if .. minit is enabled in pkgsel.. it should add it's styles to a list
[01:26] < rxr> we should introduce some init-style switch for this - like for the mail and printing system
[01:26] < mnemoc> after the list if populated by all package/*/foo.in i need to 'choice'
[01:26] < rxr> ah - or this ...
[01:26] < rxr> I'm too sleepy for this now
[01:27] < rxr> I need to meditate whether this can be cone in the normal config.in or if we need to introduce s.th. new for this ...
[01:27] < mnemoc> config.in's are sorted... mixing misc, packages, ...
[01:28] < rxr> but shouldn't it work to simply do a:
[01:28] < mnemoc> or... initstyle's config.in could filter styles if the are X or not
[01:28] < rxr> if pkgsel minit X ; then
[01:28] < rxr> SOME_LIST=$SOMELIST minit-style
[01:29] < rxr> fi
[01:29] < mnemoc> but where? minit's preconfig?
[01:29] < rxr> -- typos and wrong names (me drops from the chair in some minutes ...)
[01:29] < rxr> hm - minit's config.in ?
[01:30] < mnemoc> but that *can* be AFTER initstyles config.in
[01:30] < mnemoc> because config.in files are sorted
[01:31] < rxr> then introduce the list in some preconfig and fill the list in all the init-style normal config.in
[01:31] < mnemoc> if i introduce the list on preconfig i ignore pkgsel
[01:32] < mnemoc> i didn't understand the "all the init-style normal config.in"
[01:32] < george> anybody reading LKML?
[01:32] < Mike1> ich..
[01:33] < george> du?
[01:33] < Mike1> ja.
[01:33] < mnemoc> lier
[01:33] < Mike1> mnemoc: ?
[01:33] < george> 2.4.21-rc1 scheint so einige Probleme mit sich zu bringen, oder?
[01:33] < Mike1> george: english please :)
[01:34] < george> sorry,
[01:34] < george> 2.4.21-rc1 seems to have some problems?
[01:34] < Mike1> yes some few.
[01:35] < Mike1> george: /query
[01:37] < mnemoc> rene? 1: ignore pkgsel, 2: show all initstyles even if pkg is disables, 3: filter initstyles lists before choice, 4: introduce another ugly hook.
[01:38] < mnemoc> i see 3 as the cleaner solution... but it would slow the config.
[01:48] < rxr> mnemoc: no
[01:48] < rxr> do instroduce the empty list somewhere always.
[01:49] < rxr> then add the package to that list in it's config.in if it is selected.
[01:49] < rxr> sorry for the delay /me preparing to sleep ...
[01:51] < rxr> mnemoc: does this make sense ?
[01:52]   rxr 70% sleeping already ...
[01:52] < mnemoc> yes...
[01:52] < mnemoc> i'll bother you tomorrow :)
[01:52] < mnemoc> gn8
[01:53] < ringo78> n8 alle going to sleep 2. c you
[01:54] < mnemoc> n8
[01:54] < mnemoc> 8pm here ;)
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[01:56] < ringo78> 2 oclock here ;-)
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[02:12] < jose> somebody here uses lids ?
[02:25] < jose> somebody here is not a bot!?
[02:26]   Mike1 .
[02:26] < Mike1> but i am out :P
[02:26] < Mike1> n8 all.
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[03:34] < esden> hi all
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[03:40] < mnemoc> hi
[03:45] < george> hi
[03:46] < esden> hi mnemoc, george
[03:47] < esden> argh ... I have no floppy disks >_<
[03:48] < george> floppies, what's that?
[03:51] < esden> I do not want to burn a cd to test a boot floppy
[03:51] < esden> and burning cdrw's is somehow not working here .. >_<
[03:52] < mnemoc> install vmware :)
[03:54] < george> floppies are cheaper - unless somebody else pays a license ;-]
[03:54] < mnemoc> there is not opensource vmware-clone?
[03:54] < george> plex86 etc.
[03:55] < george> https://plex86.sourceforge.net/
[03:56] < george> BTW, we should add that to the package tree.
[03:57] < esden> mnemoc: give me vmware ...
[03:57] < esden> george: so add it ;-)
[03:57] < george> k.
[03:57] < george> on my TODO now.
[03:58]   esden tryed bochs but it is somehow difficult to configure it so that it boots anything besides the demo stuff that is coming with it
[04:00] < esden> hmm to boot a linux kernel on plex86 you need to patch the kernel
[04:01] < george> bochs is an emulator! plex86 a virtual machine.
[04:02] < george> hmm, read that too, strange...
[04:26] < mnemoc> esden: did you get it?
[04:42] < george> gotta go. c ya.
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[04:54] < esden> mnemoc: ok ... I am back here
[04:54] < esden> hmm where to upload
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[04:59]   esden installing linux on his palm
[04:59] < Lorini> hey
[04:59] < esden> hi Lorini
[04:59] < esden> *knuddel* ;-)
[04:59] < Lorini> great, somebody to talk to :)
[04:59] < esden> Lorini: are you ever sleeping?
[04:59] < Lorini> ähm
[04:59] < Lorini> well..
[05:00] < Lorini> *g*
[05:00] < Lorini> lets say no
[05:01] < esden> hehe
[05:01] < esden> urgh it is 5 in the morning >_<
[05:01] < esden> that sux
[05:01] < mnemoc_> esden: did you got it?
[05:02] < esden> mnemoc_: where?
[05:02] < Lorini> esden: i know.. why sleep at 5 o'clock in the morning?
[05:03] < Lorini> nice time to be awake.. nobody else disturbs you
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[05:04] < Lorini> hm von wem is denn das nochmal... von... schopenhauer? nietzsche? .. hmpf
[05:06] < esden> Lorini: ack ... that is right ... you can concentrate much better on nice stuff then ;-)
[05:06] < esden> like booting linux on a plam ;-)
[05:06] < Lorini> ... or doing some maths ;)
[05:08] < esden> maths? ... no ... not good idea
[05:08] < esden> CPU:            MC68EZ328
[05:08] < esden> MMU:            none
[05:08] < esden> FPU:            none
[05:08] < esden> Clocking:       10.9MHz
[05:08] < esden> BogoMips:       1.36
[05:08] < esden> Calibration:    683200 loops
[05:08] < Lorini> *g*
[05:08] < esden> weee !!! ;-)
[05:08] < Lorini> oh there it is again... my little weee :)
[05:09]   esden booted linux on a palm *jump_around*
[05:10] < Lorini> congratulations :)
[05:11] < mnemoc_> esden: transfer timed out
[05:12] < esden> mnemoc_: please try once more ...
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[05:16] < esden> urgh ... that sux ... I am too slow or something is wrong >_<
[05:16] < esden> hmm dcc says that I am downloading but I get no data ...
[05:17] < esden> and no ... I am not behind a firewall and I am sure that it works because tested with other people
[05:18] < mnemoc_> could you connect that ftp server?
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[06:11] < esden> ok ... I go to bed
[06:11] < esden> good night folks
[06:11] < mnemoc> gn8
[06:11] < mnemoc> and luck
[06:11] < esden> you too ;-)
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[07:26] < rxr> re
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[08:37] < rxr> hi mnemoc
[08:38] < rxr> I'll just plug the CRT into a test box - cu later
[08:48] < rxr> back
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[10:10] < kasc> moin
[11:22] < netrunner_> moin (starting new build)
[11:28] < kasc> moin netrunner_
[11:32] < netrunner_> well, I hope _this_ hd won't crash during the build :)
[11:34] < netrunner_> there's something wrong anything. rh wouldn't install on this pc, only an olsdrock-1.6.1 would.
[11:44] < daja77> re
[11:53] < kasc> moin daja77
[11:53] < daja77> hi kasc
[12:25] < kasc> time to resume my breakfast :)
[12:26] < daja77> yeah reattach to your breakfast session ;)
[12:27] < kasc> still have to wait, tho
[12:27] < daja77> why
[12:28] < kasc> eggs are still cooking
[12:28] < daja77> *g*
[12:30] < kasc> i could write some .desc files in the mean time...
[12:30] < daja77> have fun
[12:30] < kasc> torcs, tuxcart and tux_aqfh are the next entys on my todo :)
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[12:37] < daja77> ah good
[12:37] < daja77> hi ringo78
[12:38] < ringo78> hi daja77
[12:43] < kasc> moin ringo78
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[12:58] < daja77> hi senaxl
[12:58] < senaxl> Hi! :)
[12:58] < senaxl> Huhu capchaos :)
[12:59] < capchaos> hi franky
[12:59] < daja77> hi capchaos
[12:59] < senaxl> na, alles ok? :)
[12:59] < capchaos> senaxl, switched to ROCK? ;)
[12:59] < senaxl> nö ;P
[13:01] < capchaos> senaxl still needs to be converted ;)
[13:01] < daja77> capchaos: cast a spell
[13:01] < senaxl> vielleicht könntest du mir mal deine "packages" geben ;)
[13:04] < senaxl> als damit habe ich noch probleme :)
[13:04] < capchaos> why?
[13:04] < senaxl> ich brauche kein gnome 1.4 und 2 und auch kein kde, gcc 2.95.3 brauche ich auch nicht. etc. :)
[13:05] < capchaos> senaxl, switch it off in ./scripts/Config
[13:05] < senaxl> *g*
[13:07] < daja77> capchaos: nope not in Config but packages.txt afaik
[13:07] < senaxl> ah :)
[13:09] < capchaos> daja77:
[13:09] < capchaos> [*]    Show expert-only and experimental options
[13:09] < capchaos> - Additional Package Selection
[13:09] < capchaos> [*]    Custom package selection
[13:09] < capchaos> ----    Use "X <pattern>" to enable  packages
[13:09] < capchaos> ----    Use "O <pattern>" to disable packages
[13:09] < capchaos> ----    Use "- <pattern>" to remove  packages
[13:09] < daja77> ah yes have it worked for you?
[13:10] < capchaos> i haven't tried that yet myself, i wanted a full build ;)
[13:11] < senaxl> ;P
[13:11] < senaxl> "Everything you need and more" ;P
[13:13] < daja77> capchaos: me too, think I tried it once and it didn't work, can't not remember exactly
[13:14] < capchaos> hm that's bad
[13:14] < daja77> .oO time for a new cvs checkout
[13:43] < _NULL_> morning
[13:43] < capchaos> good morning, _NULL_
[13:45] < daja77> hi _NULL_
[13:59] < Lorini> good morning
[13:59] < senaxl> Huhu Lorini :)
[13:59] < daja77> hey Lorini
[13:59] < Lorini> :)
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[14:25] < senaxl> Huhu :)
[14:26] < tcr> moin all
[14:28] < kasc> moin Lorini
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[14:46] < capchaos> welcome back Lorbeere
[14:47] < Lorini> re
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[15:06] < _NULL_> re
[15:11] < daja77> re _NULL_
[15:15] < daja77> O_o why I am having all new mails already read >_<
[15:16] < senaxl> "I read you eMail." :)
[15:16] < daja77> huh?
[15:16] < senaxl> quatsch :)
[15:16] < senaxl> wait :)
[15:17]   daja77 waits
[15:18] < senaxl> <URL:https://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/frustrations/31fb/>
[15:18] < senaxl> :)
[15:18] < senaxl> btw, your *g*
[15:23] < daja77> hehe
[15:24] < senaxl> :)
[15:29] < daja77> senaxl: https://www.tetrinet.org/winxp/winxp_penguin.jpg
[15:29] < senaxl> yeah *g*
[15:29] < senaxl> a ct cover :)
[15:30] < daja77> really?
[15:30] < senaxl> wait *g*
[15:32] < senaxl> <URL:https://www.heise.de/ct/motive/00/19/> i mean it, but i only can find that...
[15:33] < daja77> hmm so it is not from heise
[15:35] < daja77> *argh* these borland suckers
[15:35] < senaxl> why? :)
[15:36] < daja77> the sended me spam yesterday which read: your visit at cebit2003
[15:36] < daja77> I never was at cebit in 2003
[15:36] < senaxl> *g*
[15:36] < daja77> now they got their error, that they used the wrong subject
[15:37] < senaxl> *lol*
[15:37] < daja77> they *resended* the whole mail with the new subject
[15:38] < senaxl> *rofl*
[15:38] < tcr> what subject?
[15:38] < daja77> good that I quit using borland stuff for years
[15:38] < daja77> J A X 2 0 0 3 : NUR NOCH WENIGE PLÄTZE VERFÜGBAR!
[15:38] < tcr> Hihi
[15:39] < daja77> btw, X-Mailer: Mail2000 1.10 https://groups.yahoo.com/group/tmail2000
[15:39] < daja77> *lol*
[15:40] < tcr> esthio, edomai, ephagon, kata-bebroka, kata-bebromay, kat-ebrothen, kata-brothesomai
[15:40] < tcr> Griechisch Stammformen rulen ;)
[15:57] < rolla> re
[15:57] < daja77> hi rolla
[15:57] < _NULL_> hi rolla
[15:58] < senaxl> hi di ho :)
[16:01] < rolla> daja77: where is the package for perl on 1.7 cd ?
[16:02] < daja77> rolla: dunno
[16:02] < daja77> maybe build broke
[16:05] < rolla> hmm
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[17:27] < kasc> any regex guru awake?
[17:30] < rolla> nein
[17:40] < esden> hi all
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[17:48] < zer0_o> hi all
[17:48] < senaxl> Huhu..
[17:49] < esden> hi zer0_o, senaxl
[17:53] < Lorini> hey esden
[17:54] < esden> hi Lorini
[17:55] < _NULL_> hi esden
[17:57] < esden> hi netrunner_
[17:57] < esden> erm
[17:57] < esden> _NULL_:
[17:57] < esden> -:
[17:57] < _NULL_> esden: ?
[18:02] < daja77> hi esden
[18:02] < esden> hi daja77
[18:11] < daja77> esden: remembering fefe's docbook flamebait?
[18:12] < esden> yes
[18:13] < daja77> it seems that rtai developers having experienced the same trouble with it, and will continue using latex
[18:14] < daja77> I had trouble with it, A-tui as well
[18:15] < daja77> I have to admit that sometimes fefe (in spite of his rude language) is finally right with some things he says
[18:16] < esden> yes that is right
[18:16] < esden> he uses very easyly flamable language ;-)
[18:16] < daja77> yeah, I call it fun ;)
[18:17] < esden> yes that is right ... I like what fefe produces ;-)
[18:18] < esden> daja77: dou you have got fvl fortune db?
[18:19] < daja77> nope I just randomly put some of his quotes in a txt file
[18:19] < daja77> esden: do you have?
[18:20] < esden> mom
[18:20] < esden> https://sourceforge.net/projects/fortune-mod-fvl/
[18:20] < daja77> a sf project *lol*
[18:21] < daja77> thx esden
[18:21] < daja77> quote: Fortunes extracted from Felix von Leitners usenet postings. German language. Hackerish. Offensive.
[18:21] < daja77> hehe
[18:23] < daja77> fortune-mod-at.linux home of the debianist *nope*
[18:23]   rolla needs mike to show up
[18:23] < daja77> rolla: ack
[18:24] < esden> everyone wants mike ;-)
[18:25] < rolla> well I have a iso from him but it does not have perl on it so I cannot recompile the kernel :(
[18:25] < rolla> and the damn network card does not want to work :(
[18:27]   daja77 reading...
[18:28] < rolla> I wish I could read
[18:28]   rolla is not impressed with 1.7 at all
[18:29]   daja77 laughs
[18:29] < rolla> why are you laughing?
[18:32] < daja77> I'm reading the fortune db esden gave me
[18:33] < esden> "geh sterben. Woanders." -- fefe
[18:33] < senaxl> tze..
[18:33] < senaxl> er hat auch gesagt, dass ms gar nicht so schlecht ist, sondern nur die programme :)
[18:34] < daja77> Es wird spontan zu "funktionieren" beginnen, wenn du das Handbuch liest.
[18:34] < senaxl> eigentlich ist ms gar nicht scheisse, es sind nur die programme *g*
[18:34] < esden> senaxl: the concepts of windows NT and higer are very nice ... I really have to admit that
[18:35] < senaxl> esden: which concepts? *g*
[18:35] < senaxl> domain blah, finde ich mal total blöd!
[18:35] < daja77> senaxl: nope system architecture
[18:35] < senaxl> hm?
[18:35] < senaxl> the system architecture? *g*
[18:35] < senaxl> explain that :)
[18:37] < esden> "Nicht scha"tzen.  Standard lesen." lol
[18:37] < daja77> microkernel + hardware abstraction layers, the process and threads concept and so
[18:37] < daja77> on
[18:37] < esden> daja77: ack
[18:38] < senaxl> *g*
[18:38] < esden> also Direct x is a very nice idea ... but the implementation is sucking badly
[18:38] < daja77> Ein Stück Scheiße mit Kryptographie ist immer noch ein Stück Scheiße.
[18:40] < daja77> hehe, Please solve your trivial homework assignments yourself.  At home.
[18:40]   daja77 gonna stop now
[18:40]   Lorini will das auch lesen
[18:41] < esden> Lorini: https://fortune-mod-fvl.sourceforge.net/fvl.html
[18:41] < daja77> Lorini: scroll back for esden's link
[18:41] < Lorini> oh, thx.. sorry
[18:41] < esden> the second one is better ;-)
[18:41] < daja77> ;)
[18:46] < daja77> I fear I must stop reading it for my own health ;)
[18:46] < esden> daja77: LOL
[18:47] < daja77> ack
[19:41] < mnemoc> hi
[19:41] < mnemoc> is rene around?
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[20:11] < blindcoder> beer and an empty stomach don't mix >_<
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[21:06] < tcr> re all
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[21:10] < daja77> hi tcr
[21:12] < tcr> hi daja77. Sent a pic yesterday to esden; he hasn't yet incorporate that into the galery though
[21:13]   daja77 frightened
[21:15] < tcr> Well ;)
[21:15] < tcr> Also watching star wars?
[21:18] < daja77> no I've seen them already
[21:19] < tcr> Who cares!
[21:19] < daja77> which one is today?
[21:20] < tcr> Krieg der Sterne
[21:21] < daja77> episode IV ;)
[21:21] < tcr> Yop
[21:28] < n00kie> Heya daja77 :)
[21:30] < daja77> hi n00kie
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[22:09] < rolla> grrr
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[22:16] < tcr> rolla: wazzup?
[22:17] < rolla> crappy iso I am dealing with
[22:17] < rolla> I have a useless laptop now
[22:17] < tcr> Give it me! ;)
[22:30] < rolla> no I can reinstall 1.5.7 on it
[22:30] < rolla> but I wanted rock 1.7
[22:31] < tcr> Did you talk to rxr about that?
[22:32] < rolla> nope
[22:32] < rolla> it is a iso from mike
[22:32] < rolla> perl is not there
[22:32] < rolla> and there is no support for my network card even thou it was there in 1.5.17
[22:34] < tcr> rolla: Hmm, well 1.7 has an easier possibility to use your own .config for the kernel, but an ISO should actually have a as much featured version as possible, that's right
[22:35] < mnemoc> ALL the kernel drivers are built on 1.7... as modules
[22:36] < rolla> yeah well the one I need is gone
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[22:38] < tcr> rolla: Was a 2.5 on the iso whereas you had had a 2.4 kernel before?
[22:39] < rolla> nope
[22:39] < rolla> it is a 2.4
[22:39] < netrunner_> ./msg  how does glibc check for kernel headers? I am trying to build on a fresh installed drock-1.6.1, and glibc fails complaining about missing kernel headers ... I put a vanilla kernel to /usr/src/linux and symlinked to /usr/include ... still fails
[22:40] < netrunner_> s/.\///
[22:40] < netrunner_> (i mean, ignore the ./msg ;)
[22:42] < tcr> well, as kernel headers are included by <linux/header.h>, the compiler searchs in the common include dirs + those passed with -I
[22:42] < tcr> So there should be a link from /usr/src/linux/include to /usr/include/linux
[22:44] < netrunner_> tcr: in stage 0 this should be in the fs of the host system, right?
[22:45] < tcr> I think so
[22:46] < netrunner_> hm ... there is no header.h ... nowhere on this system.
[22:47] < tcr> s,header,foobar, ;)
[22:47] < mnemoc> /usr/include/linux/*
[22:48] < tcr> header was just a name that should represent all possible filenames ;)
[22:49] < netrunner_> ah, ok. but I have those, this is what I am wondering about. glibc does not recognize them.
[22:52] < tcr> That's strange
[22:53] < netrunner_> ok - thx so far, I'll dig deeper into that tomorrow. (already digged through half my garden, that's enough for today ;)
[22:54] < tcr> I'd take a look into the configure.ac and the resulting configure script how it looks for the files. And would try to find the place where it fails
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[22:54] < tcr> btw. drock 1.6 is quite old
[22:55] < rxr> but it is up to now the most stale ROCK release ;-)
[22:55] < mnemoc> rxr: hi!!... can you sync with cliff? please...
[22:56] < netrunner_> yes i know. but none of my redhats wanted to install on this system, so I was happy when drock istalled without problems :)
[22:56] < rxr> netrunner_: nice to hear!
[22:56] < wdslbr> hi, i have a question on avison - sane driver. is this the right place for asking?
[22:57] < netrunner_> rxr: I won't mentioning things like lo not having an ip adress etc :)
[22:57] < daja77> wdslbr: I don't think so
[22:57] < rxr> wdslbr: I'm suprised ;-) I'm the author of that backend ;-)
[22:57] < daja77> uh really what a coincidence
[22:58] < wdslbr> i found the channel on your homepage
[22:58] < rxr> (maybe on the ROCK site which is linked from the avision site ...
[22:58] < rxr> wdslbr: what is your question?
[22:59] < wdslbr> the scanner is working fine so far. but adf don't work. is there a newer developer version available ?
[23:00] < wdslbr> sorry hp 7450
[23:00] < rxr> ah - yes this is a known problem :-(
[23:01] < rxr> the 74xx do not act like most other Avision based scanners - but since I'm busy preparing ROCK Linux 2.0 I have not spent time on the backend the last months ...
[23:01] < rxr> but I will do continue work on it when I have ROCK 2.0 where we need it to have ...
[23:02] < rxr> the latest developer version is the one on the gsmp.tfh-berlin.de/rene/avision homepage - but I only did general work, and improvements for the 53xx series nothign 74xx special ...
[23:03] < netrunner_> ah - needed to 'make dep' in the kerneldir :) n8 *
[23:03] < wdslbr> do you have any documentation on 74xx ?
[23:03] < rxr> I have some documentation - but nothing special for the 74xxx
[23:03] < rxr> -x
[23:03] < rxr> some of this documentation is classified ... :-(
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[23:04] < rxr> My guess is that the backend sends some unexpected bytes which confues the scanner - this is based due to the random behaviour of the scanner ...
[23:05] < rxr> do you have some Mircosoft Not Operating System running where you could log the USB traffic?
[23:05] < rxr> this would help for an analysis which commands bytes differ ;-)
[23:06] < esden> hi all
[23:06] < rxr> hi esden
[23:06]   daja77 salutes all people who are taking the pain wrinting scanner backends for linux
[23:06] < wdslbr> i use linux.
[23:07] < daja77> re esden
[23:07]   esden thinks that he is drunk to often ... ... :-(
[23:07] < rxr> wdslbr: you mean linux only ;-) No dual-boot windows?
[23:07] < daja77> esden: too much free beer
[23:07] < wdslbr> linux only
[23:08] < esden> daja77: two free beer ... one non free beer and a cuba libre long drink
[23:08] < esden> and the long drinks are hard ... really hard
[23:08]   daja77 was drunk this morning
[23:09] < esden> in the morning ? o_O
[23:09] < esden> daja77: you are hard ;-)
[23:09] < daja77> I had party until 5.30 today
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[23:09] < tcr> heh, I guess daja77 talked the whole night with NULL -- after that he required some very hard drinks ;))
[23:09] < rxr> mnemoc: I'm just commiting the merge with cliff - enjoy ;-)
[23:10] < esden> tcr: tztztz ... you are too hard to her ...
[23:10] < daja77> tcr: you know I was in that thing which some people are referring as irl
[23:10] < daja77> I met real girls out there
[23:10] < esden> ok ... I am away meeting real people ;-)
[23:11] < daja77> again?
[23:11] < wdslbr> rxr: so i will try to log the traffic on usb to figure out the bytes ...
[23:11] < mnemoc> real people is bat for wealth
[23:12] < tcr> daja77: Bah, I lost my trust in reallife after having watched Matrix ;))
[23:12] < daja77> tcr: say you would eat the red pill
[23:13] < rxr> wdslbr: where do you want to log some bytes? windows or linux ?
[23:13] < tcr> Why not.. it'd be the door out of my solipsism ;)
[23:14] < wdslbr> rxr: at the moment my scanner is only accesed over scsi emulation. you wrote something about using the usblib direct. but i could not get it running.
[23:14] < rxr> Committed revision 79.
[23:15] < wdslbr> rxr: windows site...  ( i do have to install it ;( )
[23:16] < rxr> ah that would be great
[23:16] < rxr> use the usbsnoop too you find e.h. on sourceforge.net (IIRC)
[23:16] < rxr> for the new libusb access method search the SANE mailing list - there was an email from me ...
[23:17] < rxr> but I also added "write an how-to for the new libusb access method" for the SANE/Avision homepage
[23:17] < rxr> expect it to be added within the next two days ;-)
[23:18] < wdslbr> should i send you my usb-log?
[23:19] < rxr> jups - only sent it to me in private, you have the mail address?
[23:19] < wdslbr> i 'll have a look at the howto next days
[23:19] < wdslbr> no
[23:20] < rxr> btw the last time there where two version of usbsnoop on the net - the normal and an extended.
[23:20] < tcr> Ok, I finally finished the small introduction into aegis. Sent a mail to list
[23:20] < rxr> please use the extended version if there are still two
[23:20] < rxr> wdslbr: [email protected]
[23:20] < rxr> ok /me off to bed now - cu tomorrow
[23:21] < wdslbr> thanks cu
[23:21] < tcr> rxr: gn8
[23:21] < rxr> n8 all
[23:21] < daja77> gn8 rxr
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[23:27] < tcr> Uh that mail has got quite long ;)
[23:31] < daja77> tcr: which?
[23:31] < tcr> The one I sent some minutes ago??
[23:32] < daja77> ok
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