-!- Irrsi  Log opened Thu May 08 00:00:38 2003
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[00:06] < rxr> hm - when you search for "gtkextra-2" on google you get mostly ROCK Linux links ...
[00:09] < esden> when you search for dietlibc it is the same
[00:18] < rxr> urghs
[00:18] < rxr> this SPAM gets annoying:
[00:19] < rxr> 5534  05/07   1k "Samenspender" <sa Dein Sperma ist Gold wert !
[00:19] < rxr> and I already run spamassassin on my mails ...
[00:23] < esden> yes ... they are getting from day to day more sofisticated in writing spam that is not detected by spamfilters
[00:24] < rxr> this mail has:
[00:24] < rxr> X-Spam-Score: 3.7 (+++)
[00:25] < rxr> maybe a rule for "Outlook" +2 would remove more spam from my inbox ;-)
[00:26] < rxr> and for 5 or more receivers in the same domain (the mail was To'ed to many .gmx.net people ...
[00:26] < esden> ack ... that would be a solution
[00:28] < kasc> the best spam mails are those that claim to be able to fix your spam problem ;)
[00:29] < esden> kasc: yes they rule ;-)
[00:29] < esden> I got one today
[00:32] < kasc> 205 detected spams since Apr 10
[00:34] < kasc> 2 of them false negatives
[00:35] < kasc> think i should start doing some statistics ;)
[00:37] < esden> are you american that you love statistics so much?
[00:38] < kasc> not at all, but i need some more practice in doing statistics for my studies
[00:39] < esden> aha
[00:41] < rxr> I'm really impressed by kernel 2.5.68
[00:41] < rxr> it is up since "4 days, 22 min"
[00:41] < rxr> and it is _much_ smoother than 2.4
[00:41] < rxr> (21-rc1)
[00:42] < kasc> it was here, too... until it fscked my /etc...
[00:43] < rxr> ah this way you lost your /etc ...
[00:43] < george> hi.
[00:43] < rxr> hi george
[00:43] < george> hi rxr.
[00:43] < rxr> I'll reiserfsck after the -beta2 build ... ;-)
[00:43] < rxr> I only have a proble with the -beta2 - the RAID array in ther gsmp.tfh-berlin.de server
[00:44] < rxr> is full :-(
[00:44]   JTBurn wishes a gn8 2 all :)
[00:44] < george> rxr: can you send me the pam err log? (hoping it was not my change causing it to err)
[00:44] < rxr> I just shipped the two IBM 40GB disks lying here for weeks back for exchange to Hitachi global storage - but I guess my -beta2 will finish before I have the disks to extend the raid array ...
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[01:09] < rxr> hehe Linus:
[01:09] < rxr> "But even if it wasn't, the fact is that new additions that break major
[01:09] < rxr> architectures _will_ be reverted. No ifs, buts or maybes about it. If new
[01:09] < rxr> code shows itself to be broken, it's going to get reverted, and the sooner
[01:09] < rxr> the better."
[01:11] < esden> full ack to linus
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[01:11] < esden> hi jhidalgo
[01:11] < jhidalgo> esden: hi!
[01:17] < kasc> woohoo... the first undefined references during setup of the build environment for openoffice...
[01:17] < kasc> looks like a good point to break and continue tomorrow
[01:17] < kasc> gn8
[01:18] < george> happy dreamin
[01:22] < esden> ok .. n8 everyone
[01:22] < rxr> n8 esden
[01:22]   rxr leaves soon, too
[01:22] < esden> the idea of how to get the uclibc wrappers right needs a bit of more sleep
[01:26] < rxr> ;-)
[01:26] < rxr> wow gnumeric seems to compile after I updated it:
[01:26] < rxr> == 01:13:29 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gnumeric12 [1.1.16 2.0.0-beta2].
[01:35] < rxr> Yeah:
[01:35] < rxr> == 01:13:29 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gnumeric12 [1.1.16 2.0.0-beta2].
[01:35] < rxr> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
[01:35] < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.gnumeric12.1052349193.12539.1866864561
[01:35] < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-gnumeric12.out
[01:35] < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-gnumeric12.out -> 5-gnumeric12.log
[01:35] < rxr> == 05/08/03 01:38:45 =[5]=> Finished building package gnumeric12.
[01:35] < rxr> one broken package less
[01:37] < rxr> 675 builds total, 493 completed fine, 4 with errors.
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[01:45] < Caspar> hi rxr - whats the difference between your subversion tree and the cvs tree? go all changes in the subversion tree into the cvs tree ?
[01:46] < rxr> jups
[01:47] < rxr> in the last half year we only had the cvs tree
[01:47] < rxr> and since I did muc work I exported my private tree via rsync and so
[01:47] < rxr> but since I'll maintain the 2.0 stable tree we start to prepare to fork
[01:47] < rxr> and the svn tree will be the 2.0 stable tree and the current cvs tree will be the 2.1 devel tree
[01:48] < Caspar> ok - i see
[01:48] < rxr> alhough Clifford also might discard CVS in favour of something more powerfull ...
[01:48] < Caspar> i just checked out the svn tree - i'll see if i've less errors ... especially i want to build wine ...
[01:54] < rxr> Caspar: my build has not yet reached wine - but I know it build correct during -beta
[01:54] < rxr> I just do a Build-Pkg wine into my system
[01:57] < Caspar> i'm just downloading missing files- then i'll start a fresh build or try to rebuild my broken cvs version with the svn version - is this possible?
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[01:58] < rxr> Caspar: rebuild using Build-Target or Update-System ?
[02:00] < Caspar> Build-Target
[02:00] < Caspar> i'm doing a diskless rocklinux installation as a prestep to a rocklinux live cd ...
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[02:01] < Caspar> my system already starts X on my diskless box ;)
[02:02] < Caspar> one of my problems - autodetection of the graphic card and monitor to do the X configuration :(
[02:03] < Caspar> the other problem dhclient :(
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[02:14] < george> how do I get the dereferenced name of a link?
[02:17] < rxr> readlink
[02:17] < rxr> oh  - the cmdline tool is included in tetex - this sucks
[02:19] < george> |-]
[02:20] < rxr> I only knew the C function before ...
[02:23] < george> could this fail on a non-C locale: ls -l <link>  | sed "s,^.*[0-9][0-9]:[0-9][0-9] .* -> ,,"
[02:24] < george> uuuuhhhh, I mean: ls -l <link>  | sed "s,^.* -> ,,"
[03:01] < rxr> Caspar:
[03:01] < rxr> == 01:58:02 =[9]=> Building rene/wine [20030408 2.0.0-beta2].
[03:01] < rxr> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
[03:01] < rxr> -> Preparing build in src.wine.1052351840.32473.4213795973
[03:01] < rxr> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/9-wine.out
[03:01] < rxr> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-wine.out -> 9-wine.log
[03:01] < rxr> == 05/08/03 02:38:56 =[9]=> Finished building package wine.
[03:01]   rxr off into bed now cu
[03:08] < Caspar> sleep well rene
[03:09] < Caspar> BTW: 675 builds total, 640 completed fine, 5 with errors.
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[03:19] < lowks> does rock have packages for cmucl or scheme,erlang ... functional programming languages ?
[03:23] < george> scheme is part of slang, or? but what is cmucl and erlang?
[03:23] < lowks> george: cmucl is Carnegie Melon University Common Lisp
[03:24] < lowks> george: what about the Steel Bank Lisp ?
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[04:23] < george> lowks: AFAICT, no. But better ask on the mailing list.
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[04:36] < george> gn8 all
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[04:59] < n00kie> rxr: Are you there?
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[07:04] < daja77> moin
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[07:30] < esden> moin
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[09:24] < rxr> re
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[09:30] < Brainbeer> anyone here?
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[09:55] < rxr> err yes
[09:56] < rxr> hm
[09:56] < rxr> Committed revision 149.
[09:56] < rxr> 675 builds total, 513 completed fine, 9 with errors.
[10:03] < netrunner> wasn't it 6 yesterday? ;)
[10:06] < rxr> yes but now some more are build ...
[10:06] < rxr> [3] base/pam                            [5] gnome2/gimp14
[10:06] < rxr> [5] rene/sylpheed                       [5] gnome2/abiword20
[10:06] < rxr> [5] kde31/kdemultimedia31               [5] tibit/ctags
[10:06] < rxr> [5] rene/koffice-i18n                   [5] rene/kmatplot
[10:06] < rxr> [5] base/pam
[10:06] < netrunner> oh, didn't remember the big numbers :)
[10:07] < netrunner> do you have a minute to give me a pointer concerning my shared files issue?
[10:09] < netrunner> what has mine to share with gcc? lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.2.3/cc1: gcc3 mine
[10:19] < esden> hi all
[10:20] < esden> netrunner: have you missed info IV ?
[10:21] < netrunner> esden: nope, i have wlan :)
[10:21] < netrunner> esden: are you still here? I need somebody to help me with my rock-build problem! ;)
[10:25] < esden> yes I am in athalle
[10:25] < esden> sitting at athalle17 ;-)
[10:27] < netrunner> esden: oh, i am already there remote ;)
[10:27] < netrunner> esden: I'll come over
[10:57] < rxr> https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
[11:01] < esden> rxr: nice ;-)
[11:02] < rxr> ;-)
[11:05] < rxr> Updated to revision 151.
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[11:08] < JTBurn> Holla
[11:11] < rxr> hi jb
[11:11] < rxr> JTBurn: even
[11:15]   esden -> food
[11:21] < rxr> Committed revision 153.
[11:30] < rxr> 154
[11:41] < rxr> == 05/08/03 11:42:10 =[5]=> Finished building package tetex.
[11:41] < rxr> yes ;-)
[11:41]   rxr at work cu
[11:58] < esden> re hi all
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[12:05] < daja77> hi
[12:11] < daja77> hmmm girls with horse what a nice subject...
[12:11] < daja77> horses
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[12:24] < daja77> hi dreamind
[12:25]   daja77 is laughing about the bsa madmen
[12:26] < dreamind> Hi Folks
[12:26] < dreamind> Hi daja77
[12:26]   daja77 would be happy if he could join from university too...
[12:33] < esden> daja77: why not?
[12:33] < daja77> esden: the machine I used for this is broken in a strange way
[12:33] < daja77> I can login but don't get a shell
[12:37] < esden> daja77: what were you doing with that box ...
[12:37] < esden> you nasty boy ;-)
[12:38] < daja77> esden: nothing just running a screen with irssi and slrn
[12:38] < daja77> esden: :ppp
[12:39] < esden> aha ... it is called that these days ... ok ;-)
[12:39] < daja77> this is not my machine >_<
[12:39] < esden> ahh ... ok ... so the machine is going "fremd" ... nice ... it gets better and better ;-)
[12:40] < netrunner> daja: try to reboot, I heard that helps :)
[12:40] < daja77> netrunner: hahaha
[12:40] < esden> what an idea netrunner !!!!
[12:40] < esden> you are amazing me ;-)
[12:40] < daja77> esden: what's up with you?
[12:41] < netrunner> daja: or just format and reinstall :)
[12:41] < esden> daja77: I am in good mood ;-)
[12:41] < daja77> omg
[12:41] < netrunner> esden: that beef was somewhat old, hey>?
[12:41] < esden> netrunner: that was probably from mathilda ...
[12:41]   netrunner now building rock in an uml. there no hw can break.
[12:42] < daja77> this non-interactive rtai configuration is interactive >_<
[12:42] < esden> that is not good daja77
[12:43] < daja77> ACK this is getting on my nerves
[12:43] < esden> netrunner: but the harddisk of the host system ...
[12:43] < esden> daja77: look in the .config of pcmcia-cs package
[12:43] < daja77> why
[12:43] < esden> it can be a help
[12:43] < netrunner> esden: no, my uml is completely virtual :)
[12:43] < netrunner> (i am only imaginig it :)
[12:43] < esden> you are running an uml on your brain? ... you freak1
[12:43] < esden> !
[12:44] < daja77> well this is not a problem of the .config file but of the fscking config scripts shipped with rtai
[12:44] < esden> daja77: do not discuss and look in it ...
[12:44] < netrunner> yea, /me likes shadowrun :)
[12:44] < esden> netrunner: ack ... me too
[12:44] < daja77> esden: I don't discuss anything
[12:44] < esden> netrunner: what implants do you have?
[12:45] < esden> daja77: ok ...
[12:45] < netrunner> esden: brain 0.9pre-alpha
[12:45] < daja77> esden: I'm just gonna kick some asses *har har*
[12:45] < netrunner> belonged to an ork before :)
[12:46] < esden> daja77: I only want to say .... that pcmcia cs has interactive config ... and there is workaround for this ...
[12:46] < daja77> yeah chdir: could not get current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
[12:46] < esden> netrunner: sounds like quality ...
[12:46] < netrunner> esden: workaround for cs problems: do not use :)
[12:46] < daja77> esden: ok...
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[12:51] < daja77> esden: interested in perverse news? read this https://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/ola-07.05.03-002/
[12:54] < esden> daja77: *klick*
[12:57] < esden> daja77: that is perverted ... full ack
[12:57] < daja77> yeah morons teaching morals *shudder*
[12:57] < esden> hehe
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[12:59] < daja77> have fun
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[13:18] < JTBurn> re
[13:18] < daja77> re JTBurn
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[14:11] < n00kie_> I learned much of spanish today ;)
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[14:13] < n00kie_> wb JTBurn
[14:18] < daja77> hey n00kie_
[14:21] < n00kie_> hola daja77 :)
[14:34] < rolla> re
[14:35] < rolla> == 07:12:17 =[5]=> Building kde31/quanta31 [3.1 1.7-snapshot].
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[14:38] < daja77> hi rolla
[14:38] < daja77> hey Lorini_
[14:38] < JTBurn> Hi rolla
[14:38] < JTBurn> hi daja77
[14:38] < JTBurn> hi n00kie_
[14:39] < JTBurn> ... and the rest of chan *g*
[14:39] < daja77> hehe :p
[14:41] < daja77> == 14:33:47 =[5]=> Building rene/xine [1-beta8 2.0.0-beta2].
[14:44] < daja77> WEEEE I got my login at uni machine back cu soon ;)
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[14:48] < daja77> re
[14:48] < JTBurn> wb
[14:48] < daja77> thx
[14:49] < daja77> that's great to chat from here again ;)
[14:49] < JTBurn> daja77: you are studying in chemnitz ???
[14:49] < daja77> JTBurn: yes
[14:50] < daja77> why?
[14:50] < JTBurn> daja77: andd what ?
[14:50] < JTBurn> -d
[14:50] < rolla> re daja77
[14:50] < daja77> computer science *g*
[14:51] < daja77> thx rolla
[14:51] < JTBurn> daja77: :) I want to study this at autumn in Berlin on the TU
[14:52] < daja77> hmm why not :)
[14:52] < JTBurn> :)
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[14:58] < daja77> hi capchaos
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[14:58] < capchaos> hi
[14:59] < daja77> hmm Lorini without attachment *g*
[15:31]   daja77 getting stronger in magic...
[15:31] < capchaos> what kind of magic?
[15:32] < daja77> shell scripting
[15:32] < capchaos> aah what you working on?
[15:32]   daja77 almost decompiled the rtai configure process
[15:37] < capchaos> bash is man's best friend
[15:37] < daja77> yeah better to read than m4
[15:38] < capchaos> lol
[15:38]   daja77 off for awhile cu
[15:38] < capchaos> cu daja
[15:39] < JTBurn> cu daja
[15:58] < rolla> capchaos: zsh is better than bash
[15:58] < capchaos> it's not as complete tho
[16:04] < rolla> what
[16:04] < rolla> bash is crap most of the time
[16:04] < capchaos> why?
[16:05] < rolla> I have never liked bash
[16:06] < rolla> I use ksh and zsh where ever possible
[16:08] < capchaos> nice. i'm too regaled on bash's features tho
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[16:10] < rolla> what ever you like
[16:11] < jhidalgo> good morning people! (0810 in CR)
[16:11] < capchaos> hi jhidalgo
[16:13] < daja77> re
[16:14] < daja77> hi jhidalgo
[16:14] < daja77> I guess Mike1 sleeps longer ;)
[16:17] < capchaos> his coffee is mug was empty i guess ;)
[16:18] < capchaos> -is
[16:20] < rolla> == 08:27:27 =[5]=> Building kde31/kdebindings31 [3.1.1 1.7-snapshot].
[16:20] < rolla> when are we going to remove KDE from rock
[16:20] < rolla> it is too damn slow to build
[16:20] < rolla> a waste of cpu
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[16:20] < Mike1> Good day.
[16:21] < capchaos> buenos dias miguel!
[16:21] < Mike1> hey capchaos :), Buenos Dias
[16:21] < capchaos> aah i wrote it correctly *g
[16:21] < Mike1> capchaos: you wrote it perfect my friend :)
[16:22] < capchaos> so how're you going=?
[16:22] < Mike1> great, bit sleepy yet, but great :)
[16:22] < Mike1> isn't this a great day?
[16:23] < Mike1> :)
[16:23] < capchaos> i'll tell you when night comes down ;)
[16:28] < daja77> hi Mike1
[16:29] < Mike1> lo daja77
[16:32] < daja77> rolla: ack
[16:32] < Mike1> rolla: ?
[16:34] < JTBurn> HI Mike1 :)
[16:34] < Mike1> hola JTBurn
[16:35] < daja77> Mike1: rolla voted to remove kde ;)
[16:35] < Mike1> hehehe
[16:35] < JTBurn> KDE ? whats that ? *g*
[16:36] < Mike1> daja77: i vote for an option in scripts/Config to disable it.
[16:36] < daja77> ACK
[16:36] < Mike1> i guess all windowmaker and gnome lovers will agree with me.
[16:40] < esden> re hi all
[16:40] < esden> puhh .. is that hot here ...
[16:40] < capchaos> ack
[16:40] < capchaos> hi esden
[16:41] < esden> ok ... now I have to insert my new cdwriter into my machine ... *sigh*
[16:41] < esden> or I wait till it is bit colder ...
[16:41] < daja77> hi esden
[16:42] < esden> yes I think I will do it ...
[16:42] < esden> moving is inapropriate at the moment
[16:42] < Mike1> esden: how about swimming?
[16:43] < esden> that means moving to the tube ... no thanks
[16:43] < esden> I will take a shower I think ...
[16:43] < Mike1> :PP
[16:43] < Mike1> Bless you esden
[16:43] < esden> bless you Mike1
[16:43] < Mike1> ping rolla
[16:43]   esden is dripping sweat ...
[16:44] < daja77> esden smells...
[16:45] < Mike1> stinks..
[16:45] < Mike1> :P jk esdy
[16:45] < esden> ack
[16:45]   esden stinks like hell
[16:45]   daja77 hides from esden
[16:46] < esden> daja77: you can not hide before my stinch
[16:46] < daja77> oh damn
[16:46] < esden> hehe
[16:47] < daja77> esden: btw looking at pcmcia-cs doesn't help, their build system si different
[16:47]   Mike1 can't hold the breath anymore and crashed against the floor.
[16:47] < daja77> but I now know how to manipulate rtai config
[16:56] < esden> daja77: ahh ok ... then ...
[16:57] < daja77> then, I hate this then
[16:57] < esden> Mike1: holding breath is not good ... it has influence on your health ;-)
[16:58] < Mike1> esden: take a shower so i can breath
[16:59] < Mike1> brb, new server has arrived...
[16:59]   esden is kuddling his new cdburner
[17:01]   jhidalgo sad: radiostorm.com sucks today, another radio station ?
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[17:47] < esden> re hi all
[17:47] < esden> ok ... /me showered .. and the burner inserted in my box
[17:47] < daja77> re esden
[17:47] < daja77> congrats
[17:47]   daja77 hacking rtai.conf
[17:47]   esden has only one more slot free in his box >_<
[17:48] < esden> and that is bigtower
[17:48] < daja77> esden: you need a faster box anyway
[17:48] < esden> the faster hardware will go in that bigtower ...
[17:49] < daja77> hmm a new tower would be an option?
[17:50] < esden> I have not the money to buy new bigtower ... the mb+cpu+ram will be expensive inough
[17:50] < esden> s/ino/eno/
[17:51] < daja77> esden: please stop sobbing, will ya?
[17:52] < esden> why?
[17:53]   esden is a poor student :-(
[17:53] < daja77> who is not?
[17:53] < esden> some are rich ... the ones that have time to work ...
[17:54] < daja77> hmm /me not
[17:54] < esden> daja77: my condolences ...
[17:54] < daja77> yeah my condolences as well
[17:54] < esden> thanks
[17:54] < kasc> work besides studying?
[17:55] < esden> ifg
[17:55] < daja77> hehe this is great I found a mistake in my config.in just by reading their scripts
[17:55] < daja77> kasc: I do
[17:55] < esden> if I start working I will have no time for rock and no time to learn ...
[17:55] < kasc> someone should introduce complex time, so i could use at least the imaginary part for working ;)
[17:55] < esden> their scripts?
[17:55] < esden> kasc: full ack
[17:56] < esden> two dimensional time ... that would be great
[17:56] < daja77> kasc: hehe I work on rock at work
[17:56] < daja77> esden: rtai again, sorry
[17:58] < esden> ???
[17:58] < esden> at least is the internet connection nice ...
[17:58] < esden> the one that I have here
[18:00] < daja77> esden: ?
[18:01] < esden> 400 kb/s of the kernel sources
[18:01] < daja77> O_o
[18:02] < esden> download speed from kernel org
[18:04] < daja77> cool
[18:07] < esden> ack
[18:07] < JTBurn> wow esden
[18:21] < daja77> esden: better a poor student with traffic as a rich one without ;)
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[18:22] < esden> daja77: it is near to truth
[18:23] < daja77> esden: what is missing?
[18:26] < esden> both would be the best ;-)
[18:26] < daja77> hehe ack
[18:28] < rolla> re all
[18:28] < rolla> == 10:53:39 =[5]=> Building kde31/kdeutils31 [3.1.1 1.7-snapshot].
[18:29] < daja77> re rolla
[18:29] < daja77> ;)
[18:29] < daja77> == 18:31:02 =[5]=> Building gnome2/gnome-db10 [0.8.192 2.0.0-beta2].
[18:31] < esden> hi rolla
[18:32] < daja77> damn it seems it will rain and I put my jacket into my car
[18:35] < daja77> it is flashing
[18:39] < daja77> hmm strange colors...
[18:42]   netrunner rolls in full of ice cream :)
[18:42]   daja77 gets hungry
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[18:43] < daja77> lowks, who is lowks
[18:44] < daja77> hi lowks
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[18:48] < daja77> hi Redgore
[18:48] < Redgore> heya
[18:48] < Redgore> hmm perfect topic !
[18:48] < daja77> sure ;)
[18:49] < Redgore> needed to find where to get the source
[18:49] < daja77> see the topic *g*
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[18:50] < netrunner> oh, just wantet to cutnpaste it here ;)
[18:50] < daja77> netrunner: ?
[18:50] < esden> cu l8er guys
[18:51] < daja77> bye esden cu
[18:51] < netrunner> daja: the cvs ... stuff.
[18:51] < netrunner> cu esden
[18:51] < daja77> netrunner: yeah don't need to paste it, at least I hope so
[18:52] < daja77> Redgore: got the src?
[18:52] < Redgore> not yet
[18:52] < daja77> downloading?
[18:52] < Redgore> gotta wait for a friend with better than 56k to DL it and burn to CD
[18:52] < Redgore> well stick on CDs
[18:52] < daja77> the source is just a few mb
[18:52] < Redgore> oh
[18:53] < daja77> but you'll have to download the packages...
[18:53] < Redgore> ftp://ftp.sunsite.utk.edu/pub/linux/rock/ROCK-1.7 contains all the packages right ?
[18:54] < daja77> if this is an official mirror, yes
[18:54] < Redgore> yep
[18:54] < daja77> perhaps a few are missing
[18:56] < Redgore> bbiaw
[18:56] < daja77> O_o ?
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[19:04] < daja77> hehe what a show
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[19:10] < daja77> hi n00kie
[19:10] < daja77> :)
[19:11] < n00kie> Hola daja77 :)
[19:11] < daja77> hehe I am not spanish _p
[19:11] < daja77> :p
[19:11] < n00kie> I learned much spanish today
[19:11] < n00kie> tunge gusto café :)
[19:11] < n00kie> le adiós :)
[19:12]   daja77 learned shell today *g*
[19:12] < n00kie> ehehe :)
[19:23] < jhidalgo_> n00kie: que dicha que estas aprendiendo buen castellano!, de no ser el caso no te entenderia! :->
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[19:55] < daja77> uh cr is cut off
[19:58] < _NULL_> hi
[19:59] < rolla> re _NULL_
[19:59] < daja77> hi _NULL_
[19:59] < _NULL_> hi rolla , daja77
[19:59] < JTBurn> hi rolla
[19:59] < JTBurn> hi _NULL_
[20:00] < _NULL_> hi JTBurn
[20:00] < rolla> re JTBurn how is your rock doing?
[20:02] < JTBurn> I dont have running rock, because the x-server didn't run... altought I configure it manual
[20:02] < JTBurn> I must install red hat :(
[20:02] < daja77> which one?
[20:03] < JTBurn> oh. which is added in the newest drock
[20:04] < rolla> JTBurn: what card do you hve?
[20:04] < JTBurn> I have a Radeon 7000/VE but in Red hat I take the vesa driver, I try it in rock but it didnt go
[20:05] < rolla> hmm odd
[20:05] < daja77> JTBurn: which rh
[20:05] < rolla> install X from scource :)
[20:05] < rolla> that is allways better for me anyway
[20:05] < JTBurn> rh 9
[20:05] < daja77> ;)
[20:06] < rolla> JTBurn: I had rock 1.5.17 working with me Geforce4 ti4600 np
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[20:07] < daja77> d'oh a kylix guy in #rocklinux what a shame
[20:07] < rolla> ?
[20:07] < JTBurn> crazy. why doesnt go it with my hardware ? I think it is bad karma
[20:08] < JTBurn> kylix ? is not good ??? I was very happy to use delphi on win !
[20:08]   daja77 hated delphi on win
[20:08] < JTBurn> why?
[20:08] < daja77> it is crap, waste of ressource
[20:09] < JTBurn> its one of the best and similar languages
[20:09] < daja77> it is pascal, 'nuff said
[20:09] < daja77> no!
[20:09] < JTBurn> pascal is very similar
[20:10]   daja77 hates pascal
[20:10] < JTBurn> and one of the most used after c/c++
[20:10] < JTBurn> i think
[20:10] < daja77> you forgot perl ;)
[20:11] < JTBurn> ok
[20:11] < rolla> :)
[20:12] < daja77> WEEEEE
[20:12] < daja77> == 05/08/03 20:09:21 =[5]=> Finished building package rtai.
[20:12] < daja77> *strike* that's it
[20:13]   daja77 goin home
[20:13] < rolla> == 12:23:11 =[5]=> Building kde31/kdenetwork31 [3.1.1 1.7-snapshot].
[20:13] < daja77> yeah i have another build running too, but this is my package ;)
[20:14] < daja77> cu guys and girls, have to go before rains starts
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[20:23] < _NULL_> hi n00kie
[20:23] < n00kie> hi _NULL_
[21:02] < rxr> daja77: congrats
[21:02] < rxr> hi all
[21:03] < _NULL_> hi rxr
[21:03] < rxr> hi _NULL_ !
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[21:07] < rxr> hm - if I would have free disk space I could release -beta2 tomorrow ...
[21:08]   rxr wished the two 40GB IBM disks back from repair ...
[21:16] < esden> re hi all
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[21:17] < Mike1> re.
[21:17] < esden> bless you Mike1
[21:17] < Mike1> bless you esdy.
[21:19] < rxr> hi Mike1 and esden
[21:24] < Mike1> hi ren
[21:24] < JTBurn> re mike :)
[21:24] < n00kie> skeep well guys
[21:24] < n00kie> Hola Mike1
[21:25] < n00kie> Mik1 gusto de café
[21:25] < n00kie> Mike1:  :)
[21:25] < JTBurn> our new spain n00kie *g
[21:25] < JTBurn> *
[21:25] < n00kie> :)
[21:25] < n00kie> sleep well guys :)
[21:26] < n00kie> el adios Mike1 :)
[21:27] < rxr> some infos:
[21:27] < rxr> https://www.codesourcery.com/publications.html
[21:29] < daja77> re
[21:30] < JTBurn> wb
[21:30] < daja77> thx JTBurn
[21:34] < daja77> hi rxr :)
[21:39] < rxr> hi daja77
[21:39] < daja77> rxr: compiling rev 148 since 7.00 ;)
[21:40] < rxr> you all now what? my 2.5 kernel is still up running and vital:
[21:40] < rxr> 21:43:29 up 4 days, 21:21,  3 users,  load average: 2.86, 2.96, 2.44
[21:40] < rxr> daja77: nice!
[21:40] < daja77> just a few errors...
[21:41] < rxr> yes!
[21:41] < rxr> have you my newest tetex fix from this morning ?
[21:42] < daja77> hmm when you checked this in?
[21:45] < _NULL_> bye
[21:45] < daja77> bye _NULL_
[21:49] < rxr> daja77: rev 152 is the final tetex fix
[21:50] < rxr> daja77: Committed revision 156.
[21:50] < rxr> remove empty expat.conf file and adds fribidi package for abiword
[21:50] < rxr> -> one new package and one error less
[21:50] < rxr> == 05/08/03 21:51:41 =[5]=> Finished building package abiword20.
[21:51] < rxr> my -beta2:
[21:51] < rxr> 676 builds total, 651 completed fine, 25 with errors.
[21:51] < rxr> ^- finished ;-)
[21:51] < rxr> but I perform some final error fixing ...
[21:53] < daja77> good good
[21:54] < daja77> I'll try to merge my realtime stuff into tomorrows checkout of your tree and release a tarball
[21:56] < rolla> rxr when are we going to remove KDE from rock
[21:56] < rolla> waste of cpu cycles it is
[21:57] < daja77> *lol*
[21:58] < rolla> takes too long to build that C++ nightmare
[21:59] < rxr> rolla: are you kidding? really no nightmare
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[22:00] < rxr> rolla: disable them via scripts/Config ...
[22:00] < daja77> hi tcr, joining at the right time ;)
[22:00] < rxr> rolla: I would remove gnome before I remove kde ...
[22:01] < JTBurn> IceWM is the best I think ...
[22:02] < daja77> yeah a flame war _now_
[22:02] < rxr> JTBurn: comparing apples with apple-trees?
[22:02] < rxr> daja77: ack ;-)
[22:02] < JTBurn> mmmh.
[22:03] < daja77> rolla: btw compiling qt at the moment...
[22:05] < rolla> ugh
[22:05] < daja77> rxr: that bad thing is I can't do a working patch against rock cvs cos 2.4.21-rc1 isn't supported by rtai, so downgrading is necessary
[22:05] < rolla> rxr I am not kidding that thing takes longer than the rest of rock to build
[22:05] < rolla> rxr why remove gnome that is a nice window manager
[22:05] < rxr> rolla: mostly due to the f**king slow g++
[22:06] < rxr> rolla: kde and gnome are _not_ window managers
[22:06] < rolla> they are in my mind :)
[22:06] < rxr> rolla: when you build with gcc-2.95.3 KDE builds _much_ faster
[22:06] < rolla> yes that is why I hate KDE to slow to build
[22:06] < rolla> so it is gcc3 that makes it slow?
[22:06] < rxr> rolla: jups
[22:07] < rolla> hmm I might have to switch
[22:07] < rxr> gcc-3.3 should be faster - and gcc-3.4 should fix more major speed problems
[22:07] < daja77> lol
[22:07] < rxr> rolla: you should not switch back - gcc-3 is a great compiler - just a bit slow
[22:07] < tcr> moin all
[22:08] < rolla> hmm
[22:08] < rxr> daja77: they claim they work on this issues ... at least
[22:08] < rolla> pain
[22:08] < rxr> rolla: use ccache
[22:08] < rolla> ?
[22:08] < rxr> or faster hardware ;)
[22:08] < daja77> rxr: yeah sorry sounded just a bit strange to me
[22:08] < rolla> oh yeah I saw that
[22:08] < rxr> rolla: for the case you rebuild often
[22:08] < rxr> daja77: why ?
[22:08] < rolla> :)
[22:09] < rxr> I can only repeat what the gcc folks claim
[22:09] < rxr> gcc-3.3 fixes some speed problems - the major issues are scheduled for gcc-3.4 ...
[22:09] < daja77> rxr: I sounds like: and in version 3.6 everybody will be happy, cos the compiler will work then
[22:09] < daja77> rxr: I don't blame you, but they made lots of promises before
[22:09] < rxr> rolla: disabling compile optimization might help your box to build faster
[22:10] < rxr> daja77: I think gcc is quite nice - not many bugs
[22:10] < daja77> hmm as long as redhat isn't involved...
[22:11] < rxr> Ge0rG: gcc-2.95 was crap for C++ (which I do intesively) this is why I had a gcc-3.0 based dRock before RedHat or SuSE even announced one ...
[22:11] < Ge0rG> ah, now that you mention it ;)
[22:11] < rxr> (sorry s/GeOrG// - hit tab to often ...)
[22:12] < Ge0rG> no problem... I'm just kidding around :)
[22:12] < rxr> the only problem I have with 3.x is the compile speed
[22:12] < daja77> and optimisation errors
[22:13] < rxr> daja77: do you notice some? You should report them ..
[22:14] < daja77> tfing noticed one and got bashed for it in #python *g*
[22:15] < rxr> clifford last logs are strangely ICEing on KDE ... ?!?
[22:15] < daja77> ??
[22:17] < rxr> daja77: brSearch the ROCK Linux Homepage:
[22:17] < rxr> argg
[22:17] < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/packages/kdelibs31.html
[22:18] < daja77> gcc segfault (how I hate this)
[22:19] < daja77> *gna* this reminds me of my borken motherboard I had some months ago
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[22:20]   rxr too - might be cliffs new hardware ...
[22:20] < rxr> daja77: do you do an optimized build - or a generic 386 one ?
[22:21] < daja77> pentium-mmx
[22:21] < rxr> ah as I do
[22:22] < rolla> rxr: I have no optimization set
[22:22] < daja77> I'll do athlon later :^)
[22:23] < rxr> rolla:  was it you who disabled the paranoia checks due to shared files =
[22:24] < daja77> I did it two on a second run, some time ago
[22:25]   esden driving back home ... cu l8er
[22:25] < JTBurn> gn8
[22:26] < daja77> gn8 JTBurn
[22:26] < daja77> esden: where are you?
[22:26] < daja77> s/two/too/
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[22:28] < rxr> hm - strange my queued patches are still not applied by cliff ... :-(
[22:28] < Mike1> rxr: perhaps he is busy...
[22:29] < daja77> uh Mike nice to see you back
[22:29] < Mike1> :)
[22:29] < Mike1> i am not exactly back
[22:29] < daja77> :(
[22:29] < Mike1> we had a major power problem here
[22:30] < Mike1> so we are still fixing stuff
[22:30] < daja77> ooops
[22:30] < Mike1> daja77: 3 _BIG_ UPS's gone
[22:30] < daja77> fsck
[22:30] < Mike1> 7 servers lost the power supply, and i think motherboards are demaged
[22:31] < daja77> *aargh*
[22:31] < Mike1> 3 of those boxes are Ultra 60's ... :(((
[22:31] < daja77> how can this happen
[22:31] < Mike1> an overload on the electric lines
[22:31] < tcr> Hah! How's Murphy's law? If it can go bad, it will even go wrose? Or something like that
[22:31] < Mike1> you can blame the provider, but they will not pay any demages
[22:32] < daja77> oh
[22:32] < Mike1> daja77: several companies got affected
[22:32] < Mike1> including 8 sportbooks in the area
[22:32] < Mike1> this crap..
[22:32] < daja77> any private people in that area?
[22:33] < Mike1> daja77: i guess some tv, and home pcs were gone as well
[22:33] < Mike1> daja77: it was really a high overload...
[22:33] < daja77> such a crap
[22:33] < daja77> any larts for that
[22:34] < tcr> Oh, it's already late. Will go sleeping right away.
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[22:35] < Mike1> daja77: people is pissed off, anyways i am stilling recovering from the mess
[22:35] < Mike1> be back in 1 hour or so
[22:35] < daja77> I'll be gone themn, so bye Mike1
[22:37]   daja77 is happy that he has no electricity problems due the lighting
[22:38] < rxr> cool subversion 0.22 is out ;-)
[22:38] < daja77> new features?
[22:52] < daja77> there is one thing about subversion which scares me
[22:53] < Mike1> bdb?
[22:54] < rxr> ersion 0.22.0 (released 7 May 2003, revision 5842, branches/release-0.22)
[22:54] < rxr> User-visible changes:
[22:54] < rxr> * svn diff -r BASE:HEAD and other edge cases fixed (#977)
[22:54] < rxr> * svn diff and merge now have --ignore-ancestry option (#1034)
[22:54] < rxr> * svn ci -N DIR no longer errors during post-commit (#1239)
[22:54] < rxr> * ra_dav now optional (#617)
[22:54] < rxr> * update vn-svn.el (#1250, #1253)
[22:54] < rxr> * improvements to svn_load_dirs.pl (#1223, #1215)
[22:54] < rxr> * misc ra_svn bug fixes and protocol change
[22:54] < rxr> * log-encoding option now properly only applied to logs
[22:54] < rxr> * fix mmap failures on HP-UX
[22:54] < rxr> * fix some client memory leaks
[22:54] < rxr> Developer-visible changes:
[22:54] < rxr> * finish transition to new xml prop namespaces for mod_dav_svn (#840)
[22:54] < rxr> * minimize full tree locks and number of system calls (#1245)
[22:54] < rxr> * auto-generated .dsp files (#850)
[22:54] < rxr> * fix ETag of directory (#1251)
[22:54] < rxr> * added export editor (#1230)
[22:54] < rxr> hm
[22:55] < rxr> my build box with dRock-2.0.0-TP2 seems to need an update ... ;-)
[22:55] < rxr> daja77: what scares you ?
[22:56] < netrunner> can anybody here suggest an dual cpu setup that works fine with linux? (my P3-500 is way to slow building rock ;)
[22:57] < daja77> rxr: the use of berkeley db
[22:57] < rxr> hm - ...
[22:58] < daja77> *g*
[22:58] < daja77> Mike1: ack
[22:59] < daja77> netrunner: what about a faster singel cpu
[22:59] < daja77> single
[23:00] < rxr> netrunner: your box is not to slow - you should be more patient!
[23:01] < rxr> netrunner: I started ROCK on a Pentium 120 and was happy when I upgaded to an IDT Winchip 200 (or so) ...
[23:01] < daja77> hehhe
[23:01] < netrunner> rxr: when I was building on my P120, the HDD broke in stage 5
[23:01] < rxr> netrunner: but nearly any dual setup should work quite fine under linux
[23:01] < netrunner> rxt: while building on my K6/2, the HDD broke in stage 1
[23:01] < rxr> netrunner: urgs :-(
[23:02] < netrunner> rxr: while building on my P3-500, I realized that one of the sdrams was malfunctional. this is now replaced by 2 new 128MB.
[23:02] < netrunner> but building glibc still takes a day. so I am still in stage 0
[23:02] < daja77> netrunner: pechvogel?
[23:03] < netrunner> daja: schaugt so aus ;)
[23:03] < rxr> netrunner: it taks a day ????????????????
[23:03] < rxr> this seems to be quite strange - you should check your system
[23:03] < rxr> I would expect it to take 3 hours max on your box
[23:04] < netrunner> anobody ever successfully built rock in an uml? (was my try today on my epia (remote=, but didnt work because of some encoding probs in fl_wrapper.c)
[23:04] < rxr> it takes only 3-5 hours on my 270 Mhz UltraSPARC 5 ...
[23:05] < rxr> hehe the gentoo people do not seem to have subversion ebuilds ;-)
[23:05] < netrunner> rxr: ok, this was maybe the fault of only 64MB RAM. now I have 256, and it's only building for an hour now.
[23:06] < netrunner> golfballgrosser hagel hier! *ieek*
[23:06] < rxr> netrunner: ah! This sound more correct ;-)
[23:06] < rxr> netrunner: oh - where are you located ?
[23:06] < daja77> netrunner: wtf?
[23:07] < rxr> netrunner: here in berlin is is quite nice in the real world ;-)
[23:08] < rxr> btw: we already transfered > 100 GB -beta ISOs from the nexus.tfh-berlin.de server !
[23:08] < rxr> in only 8 days!
[23:11] < daja77> ongrats?
[23:11] < daja77> *argh*
[23:11] < daja77> congrats of course
[23:13] < netrunner> rxr: munich.
[23:13] < rxr> can anyone recommend a tiny / small apache log analizer that simply does it's job?
[23:13] < rxr> e.g. nothing full-blown fat ...
[23:14] < daja77> hmm nver did that really
[23:33] < rolla> grr transports suck
[23:34] < daja77> rolla?
[23:36] < rxr> cu later
[23:36] < daja77> rxr: gn8
[23:45] < rolla> ja
[23:46] < daja77> you mean public transport?
[23:47] < rolla> no SAP transports
[23:47] < daja77> d'oh
[23:50] < daja77> gn8u every body
[23:50] < daja77> everybody
[23:56] < esden> re hi all ...
[23:57] < esden> sigh ... the weather is terrible ...
[23:57] < esden> it rained and thundered terribly over here...
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Fri May 09 00:00:55 2003