-!- Irrsi  Log opened Fri May 09 00:00:55 2003
[00:08] -!- Caspar [[email protected]] has joined #rocklinux
[00:09] < esden> ahh nice ... 2 mins and a cd is burned ...
[00:09] < esden> I like that cdburner ;-)
[00:09] < Caspar> ;)
[00:09] < esden> hi Caspar
[00:09] < Caspar> hi
[00:10] -!- Caspar_ [[email protected]] has joined #rocklinux
[00:11] < esden> Caspar_: ???
[00:11] < Caspar_> yes?
[00:11] < Caspar_> oh, my modem disconnected ;)
[00:11] < esden> ahh I see
[00:11] < Caspar_> [3] base/coreutils                      [5] rene/eet
[00:11] < Caspar_> [5] rene/fribidi
[00:11] < Caspar_> 677 builds total, 424 completed fine, 3 with errors.
[00:11] < Caspar_> :)
[00:12] < esden> nice
[00:12] < esden> very nice
[00:13] < esden> but you still have some way to go ...
[00:13] < Caspar_> coreutils should be fixed, fribidi is because i forgot to download ;)
[00:13] < Caspar_> i hope wine compiles ...
[00:14] < esden> ok ... the p2 optimized build boot's
[00:14] < esden> nice nice nice
[00:16] < esden> that here is not so nice:
[00:16] < esden> 1534 builds total, 1100 completed fine, 91 with errors.
[00:16] < esden> the generic build
[00:16] < esden> optimized for pentium
[00:16] < Caspar_> :( i didn't try the generic build yet ...
[00:16] < Mike1> 1530 builds total, 259 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[00:19] < esden> Mike1: the errors will come ;-)
[00:20] < esden> ok burning the second cd
[00:20] < esden> netrunner requested them from me ;-)
[00:21] < esden> one has to support new rockers ;-)
[00:22] < esden> hehe 1 minute and ready ;-)
[00:23] < Mike1> esden: sure, i am bughunting, evelutions and gnucash are my main targets, as they are the only 2 borken packages on my repos..
[00:23] < Mike1> esden: i am a new rocker too, will you support / sponsor me?
[00:23] < esden> Mike1: nope you are an old one ;-) ... but I can send you one of my builds ;-)
[00:24] < Mike1> esden: sure why not :)
[00:24] < Mike1> but hey i am not old :)
[00:24] < esden> yes you are ... you are a grandpa
[00:25] < Mike1> esden: you are older then me :)
[00:25] < Mike1> in age and in developing for rock time :P
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[00:26] < esden> Mike1: I have not compared your rocklinux age to mine ...
[00:26] < esden> I am a dinosaur ;-)
[00:26] < Mike1> esden: sure you are :)
[00:26] < esden> ok ... cd's for netrunner are ready
[00:27] < Mike1> Caspar__ quite a unstable conection huh?
[00:27] < Caspar__> seems so - strange
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[00:28]   Caspar__ is cloned ;)
[00:28] < rxr> re
[00:28] < esden> wb rxr!
[00:28]   esden is kuddling his new cdburner ;-)
[00:29] < Mike1> lol
[00:29] < Mike1> hi rxr
[00:29] < Caspar__> hi rxr
[00:33] < esden> urgh a yamaha burner with T@2 capability costs at ebay nearly 200EUR >_<
[00:34] < esden> why the hell has yamaha stopped producing them >_<
[00:35] < esden> or better they stopped producing any optical storage devices
[00:35] < rxr> hi esden
[00:35] < rxr> esden: can you recomment a apache log visualizer =
[00:35] -!- Davey- [[email protected]] has joined #rocklinux
[00:35] < rxr> argh
[00:35] < Davey-> sup people
[00:35] < rxr> today my fingers like the = ... s/=/?/
[00:35] < Mike1> rxr: webalizer .. ?
[00:36] < esden> rxr: I use webalizer
[00:36] < rxr> currently I try https://awstats.sourceforge.net/
[00:36] < Mike1> rxr: you didn't ask me but i though i could help..
[00:36] < Davey-> I saw on distrowatch that  dROCK • 2.0.0-beta iso's are on there, and I was wondering are those bootable, like is that how u can install it or do you have to have a base system or what?
[00:36] < rxr> Davey-: bootable
[00:37] < rxr> incl. installer
[00:37] < Davey-> nice :)
[00:37] < Davey-> stable?
[00:37] < rxr> -beta2 will be more stable ... ,)
[00:37] < Mike1> Davey-: its a beta brother...
[00:37] < esden> rxr: looks nice
[00:38] < Mike1> esden: it might be worth to try it don't you think?
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[00:38] < Davey-> you guys actually have a pretty good amount of users in here :)
[00:38] < Mike1> esden: looks prettier than webalizer at least...
[00:38] < esden> Mike1: ack
[00:38] < esden> Davey-: ack ;-)
[00:39] < Davey-> ack ?
[00:39] < Davey-> lol
[00:39] < Mike1> esden: for one moment i thought i was been ignored
[00:39] < Mike1> :)
[00:39] < esden> Davey-: syn -> ack (icmp protocol)
[00:39] < Davey-> yea...I know, but why was I told "ack" lol
[00:39] < esden> but all protocols use this kind of handshake
[00:39] < Mike1> Davey-: you are only whatching some of the people that is closer to the project, we have many more users :)
[00:39] < esden> ack = acknowledge
[00:40] < Davey-> glad to see some people are actually doin some work not like every other distro thats using r_dhat for their base
[00:40] < esden> Mike1: ack (the next time ...)
[00:40] < rxr> Davey-: ;-)
[00:40]   esden should inclede ack in ircstats word watch
[00:41] < rxr> esden: another Q
[00:41]   Davey- throws some more compliments towards people actually doin work
[00:41] < Mike1> esden: "<esden> Mike1: ack (the next time ...)" <--- didn't get this one
[00:41] < rxr> esden: why are so many days unrecognized in your irc stat ?
[00:41] < esden> rxr: my stats are bit broken ... I have to run a cleanup script ...
[00:41] < esden> rxr: I do it in a moment
[00:42] < rxr> esden: ah - the date "Unknown" is quite populated ...
[00:42] < esden> Mike1: because I said ack the second time in a very short time ...
[00:42] < Mike1> esden: ok..
[00:43] < esden> rxr: when the day changes irssi is not inserting the current date propperly ... I have to fix that using a cleanup script
[00:43] < esden> Davey-: thank you for the compliments ... we work hard for that
[00:43] < Davey-> haha
[00:43] < Davey-> np
[00:43] < esden> *G*
[00:45] < Caspar__> awstats looksnice ;)
[00:48] < rxr> oh - people with IE on my homepage ?
[00:50] < esden> rxr: hehe ;-)
[00:50]   esden was with ie on rxr's page
[00:50] < rxr> really ?
[00:50] < esden> while I was in bitz
[00:50] < rxr> in the last few seconds ?
[00:50] < esden> there are winxp boxes
[00:50] < esden> nope
[00:50] < esden> not in the last seconds
[00:50] < rxr> I had to reconfigure the access format and so restart the log for this awstat
[00:51] < Caspar__> one more error :( [5] gnome14/galeon12
[00:51]   esden would like to see stats for the rocklinux.org and www.rocklinux.net pages
[00:52] < Mike1> rxr: how long do think it will take 3 build generic on a dual Athlon MP 1.5ghz?
[00:52] < Caspar__> oh - only shared files ;)
[00:54] < rxr> Caspar__: hm ?
[00:54] < Caspar__> var/opt/gnome/scrollkeeper/C/scrollkeeper_cl.xml: galeon12 glade10
[00:54] < Caspar__> var/opt/gnome/scrollkeeper/C/scrollkeeper_extended_cl.xml: galeon12 glade10
[00:54] < Mike1> rxr...?
[00:55] < rxr> Mike1: hm - a generic. Did not build it for a long time - a desktop might take around 2 days or so without the rebuild stage
[00:55] < rxr> Caspar__: already fixed - do an svn up
[00:55] < Mike1> rxr: mm.. ok, 2 days on a 2x1500mhz box?
[00:55] < Mike1> my god :((
[00:56] < Caspar__> rxr: in the last 2 hours ?
[00:56] < rxr> Mike1: Only a guess - after all the big bugs crawled into the tree over the last three weeks I have no time feeling anymore
[00:56] < rxr> Caspar__: 10 minutes ago ;-)
[00:56] < Mike1> rxr: poor rxr
[00:56] < esden> ok ... stats fixed
[00:57] < Caspar__> ;)
[00:57]   Mike1 checking stats
[00:57] < rxr> Mike1: the -beta was a pain - I can give you build times for -beta2 (much nicer)
[00:57] < esden> for the ones that do not know it yet https://www.rocklinux.org/people/esden/ircstat/
[00:57] < esden> rxr: are you syncing the beta fixes with cliff?
[00:58] < Mike1> rxr: good.
[00:58] < rxr> esden: yes sure.
[00:58] < rxr> he has unapplied patches lying around for 2 or 3 days now
[00:58] < esden> rxr: good
[00:58] < Mike1> rxr: anyways when will beta2 be out? and when are you going to work fixing generic?
[00:58] < rxr> and new are already waiting to be send ...
[00:58] < esden> rxr: hmm ... he is back to busy state as it seems
[00:58] < rxr> Mike1: fixing desktop means fixing generic, too.
[00:59] < esden> rxr: do you make generic test builds?
[00:59] < rxr> Mike1: but do not expect me to do all work - release manager / stable maintainer does not mean "people who does any crap" ...
[00:59] < Mike1> rxr: i need to fix evoultion and gnuchas, and also wanna see how broken is generic, so will do that on the smp box first, then i will play around with your tree
[00:59] < rxr> esden: this is a hardware limiting factor here
[00:59] < esden> rxr: ok ... I download your svn stuff and build generic
[00:59] < rxr> my box is continuesly busy with dektop and install builds
[01:00] < esden> pentium2 optimizid ...
[01:00] < rxr> but I could run a ( ./scripts/Cretae-ErrLst -newdelete ; ./scripta/Build-target -cfg generic )
[01:00] < rxr> loop - but not complete rebuilds every week
[01:00] < rxr> esden: that would be nice
[01:00] < esden> rxr: ok ok ... I know that you are doing your best ... I try to help
[01:00] < Mike1> rxr: please don't missunderstand me, i am not trying to offend you or take credits away from ur work in drock, i was curious
[01:01] < rxr> I already reduced the error count from > 100 to 27 or so ;-)
[01:01] < esden> rxr: please tell me the svn link
[01:01] < esden> I add it to the topic
[01:01] < rxr> I expect 0 errors in the desktop confing in some days
[01:01] < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/
[01:01] < esden> and how should the svn command sound?
[01:02] < rxr> svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/
[01:03] -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
[01:04] -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: OCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:[email protected]:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
[01:04] <@esden> urgh that is long
[01:04] -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
[01:05] < rxr> esden: you are crazy
[01:05] < Davey-> haha
[01:06] < esden> rxr: full ack ... and I am proud of it ;-)
[01:07] < rxr> I know - that's good
[01:07]   Davey- thinks u people say ack too much
[01:08]   Caspar__ sees an error in topic ;)
[01:08] < Davey-> me2
[01:08] < Davey-> lol
[01:08] < Mike1> to: OCK Linux
[01:08] < esden> Davey-: you may be right
[01:09] < esden> ups
[01:09] -!- mode/#rocklinux [+o esden] by ChanServ
[01:09] -!- esden changed the topic of #rocklinux to: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:[email protected]:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
[01:09] -!- mode/#rocklinux [-o esden] by esden
[01:09] < esden> better?
[01:09] < Mike1> much better esden
[01:09] < Caspar__> ;)
[01:09] < esden> good
[01:09] < esden> I am too tired ...
[01:12] < Caspar__> rxr: just one more :( gimp14
[01:13] < esden> argh /me has muscle ache
[01:14] < rxr> Caspar__: you mean it is failing ?
[01:14] < Caspar__> yes - compile error
[01:14] < rxr> jups - known
[01:14] < rxr> how many other errors do you have ?
[01:15] < rxr> These are know (and scheduled for fix until sunday night):
[01:15] < rxr> [3] base/pam                            [5] gnome2/gimp14
[01:15] < rxr> [5] rene/sylpheed                       [5] kde31/kdemultimedia31
[01:15] < rxr> [5] tibit/ctags                         [5] rene/koffice-i18n
[01:15] < rxr> [5] rene/kmatplot                       [5] mnemoc/openldap
[01:15] < rxr> [5] rene/wine                           [5] base/pam
[01:15] < rxr> [5] kasc/paragui                        [5] kasc/smpeg
[01:15] < rxr> [5] rene/anjuta                         [5] kasc/libsdl_perl
[01:15] < rxr> [5] kasc/openal                         [5] kasc/clanlib
[01:15] < Caspar__> [3] base/coreutils                      [5] rene/eet
[01:15] < Caspar__> [5] rene/fribidi                        [5] gnome14/galeon12
[01:15] < Caspar__> [5] gnome2/gimp14
[01:15] < Caspar__> 677 builds total, 429 completed fine, 5 with errors.
[01:15] < rxr> [5] kasc/gnomemeeting                   [5] kasc/asc
[01:15] < rxr> [5] kasc/barrage                        [5] kasc/frozen-bubble
[01:15] < rxr> [5] kasc/kapitalist                     [5] kasc/openglad
[01:15] < rxr> [5] kasc/pingus                         [7] base/rfc
[01:15] < rxr> [7] x11/imagemagick
[01:15] < rxr> 676 builds total, 651 completed fine, 25 with errors.
[01:15] < rxr> some of the kasc urls are broken - so I even miss the files ...
[01:16] < rxr> Caspar__: fibidi ??? What is it's error ?
[01:16] < Caspar__> i forgot to download ;(
[01:17] < rxr> :-(
[01:17] < rxr> ah
[01:17] < Caspar__> me too:
[01:17] < Caspar__> root:/data/rock-svn/rock-trunk# ./scripts/Download -list-missing
[01:17] < Caspar__> download/base/gccx/gcc-20030506.tar.bz2
[01:17] < Caspar__> download/kasc/barrage/barrage-1.0.1.tar.bz2
[01:17] < Caspar__> download/kasc/openal/openal-311202.tar.bz2
[01:17] < Caspar__> download/kasc/smpeg/smpeg-0.4.5.tar.bz2
[01:17] < Caspar__> download/mnemoc/lvs/ipvs-1.0.8.tar.bz2
[01:17] < Caspar__> cantus-1.06-1.tar.bz2
[01:18] < Caspar__> download/rene/subversion/subversion-0.22.0.tar.bz2
[01:20]   esden building subversion ... it takes decades
[01:21] < Caspar__> yesterday you said wine builds fine - now it is on your list ?
[01:21] < rxr> Caspar__: it built fine in my current running system
[01:21] < rxr> in the whole build (in the sandbox) it failed ... :-(
[01:22]   Caspar__ would like to know why wine is so difficult to build :(
[01:23] -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:[email protected]:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
[01:23] -!- Topic set by esden [Fri May 9 01:09:26 2003]
[01:23] < rxr> Caspar__: it was never difficult to build
[01:23] < rxr> it is just some strange inconsistency I need to figure out
[01:23] < rxr> sometimes it misses HeapFree HeapAlloc for Direct3D
[01:23] < rxr> I'll take a look into this soon
[01:24] < Caspar__> if i would know what this means, i would help to fix it ...
[01:24] < Mike1> == 17:20:09 =[5]=> Building x11/netpbm [10.12 1.7-snapshot].
[01:24] < Mike1> == 12:30:42 =[5]=> Building base/linux24 [2.4.21-rc1 1.7-snapshot].
[01:24] < Mike1> == 11:20:57 =[0]=> Building base/linux24-header [2.4.21-rc1 1.7-snapshot].
[01:29] < Caspar__> rxr: did you fix the problem with coreutils/automake ?
[01:29] < rxr> Caspar__: no sorry
[01:29] < rxr> I worked the whole day writing Windows CAD software ...
[01:29] < Caspar__> no real problem - coreutils is rebuild at stage 5 ;)
[01:29] < rxr> currently I do some maintenace on my servers
[01:31] < Caspar__> some days ago there was an discussion about kadzu and hwscan on the list - whats the status about this ?
[01:31] < Mike1> rxr: the whole coreutils problems happens because acl-xattr.diff and no-broken-progs.patch modify configure.ac, so it screams because as it is modifed it required autoconf
[01:31] < Mike1> rxr: on stage 5 it will build perfect because autoconf is there.
[01:32] < esden> ok ... checing svn 2.0 trunk
[01:32] < esden> grr ... i mean checking out
[01:32] < Mike1> rxr: i have fixed the problem on my private tree, but its kind of dirty
[01:33] < Mike1> rxr: would you like me to send it a patch to you ?
[01:33] < Mike1> -it
[01:34] < rxr> Mike1: sure I'll take a look
[01:34] < Mike1> rxr ok in a moment i sent it to you
[01:35] < rxr> take your time - I'm busy anyway
[01:35] < Mike1> rxr: i am busy too, but it won't take too long
[01:35]   Caspar__ wants to detect graphic card and monitor like knoppix
[01:36]   Mike1 has been forced to switch to smp mode...
[01:37] < esden> Mike1: women are best at it ;-)
[01:37] < rxr> Caspar__: we have our hwscan - and if you ask me kazu will not make it into ROCK
[01:37] < Caspar__> it seems i could get graphic card detection by lspci and the Cards file of XFree
[01:37] < rxr> Caspar__: hotplug alone is so dirty that we rewrite it ROCK-style
[01:37] < Mike1> esden: ?
[01:37] < rxr> (read keep it stupid simple)
[01:37] < Caspar__> i dont want kazu - but i want detect my monitor :(
[01:38] < rxr> Caspar__: sure
[01:38] < rxr> we'll intrgrate hotplug and hwscan - and the monitor detection for X should be easy, too
[01:38] < esden> svn_error: #21082 : <RA layer request failed>
[01:38] < esden>   PROPFIND of /svn/rock-linux/!svn/bc/162/rock-tags/2.0.0-beta/package/rene/commonc%20%20: 404 Not Found
[01:38] < Caspar__> the only package i've found so far which can read DCC info from montitor is kazu
[01:38] < esden> argh!!!
[01:38] < esden> I will check out it tomorrow or so ... >_<
[01:39] < rxr> esden: what CMD line did you use ?
[01:39] < esden> rxr: the one that is in the topic
[01:39] < rxr> esden: which subversino version did you use
[01:39] < esden> a too old one ... because I have not been able to compile the current one
[01:39] < esden> due to a compile error
[01:40] < Caspar__> rxr: why do you think monitor detection is easy ? i've font no info yet on www
[01:40] < esden> subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.c: In function `dav_svn_insert_prop':
[01:40] < esden> subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.c:310: parse error before "APR_UINT64_T_FMT"
[01:40] < esden> make: *** [subversion/mod_dav_svn/liveprops.lo] Error 1
[01:40] < rxr> Caspar__: I meant graphic card
[01:40] < esden> I do not want the module
[01:40] < rxr> the detection can be left to the xserver - see xrandr
[01:40] < esden> but I have not found a switch to disable it ...
[01:41] < rxr> which version was the new one you tried - and which is the one you are using now ?
[01:41] < esden> 0.12.0
[01:41] < rxr> wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:41] < esden> is the one I tryed now ...
[01:41] < rxr> do you know how old this beast is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:41] < esden> I mean tryed to compile
[01:42] < esden> urgh
[01:42] < esden> sorry *hide*
[01:42] < rxr> take 0.22.0
[01:42] < rxr> or 0.21.0 !
[01:42] < esden> ehhm I mean it was 0.21.0
[01:42] < esden> not 12 ...
[01:42] < rxr> ah
[01:42] < rxr> puh ...
[01:42] < Mike1> lol
[01:43] < Mike1> rxr: you almost freak my friend
[01:43] < rxr> esden: are you sure you used rock-trunk at the end of the url ?
[01:43] < esden> I freaked the shit out of rxr too I think
[01:43] < esden> yes ... wait I retry building 21
[01:44] < rxr> I just doing a vanilla checkout here - and it runs fine so far
[01:44] < Caspar__> rxr: xrandr looks like there has to be already a running X server ?
[01:44] < Mike1> esden: you certainly did
[01:46] < rxr> Caspar__: the the refresh rates to s.th. useable start X with a script that first uses xrandr to make a resolution choice based uppon the data provided
[01:46] < esden> hehe ... outside is a storm ... and I hear guys crying around how cool that is ...
[01:46] < esden> they must be drunk badly
[01:46] < Mike1> lol
[01:46] < Mike1> esden: some fireworks would rock if you really wanna scare them right now don't you think?
[01:47] < esden> Mike1: yes fireworks in their direction ;-)
[01:47] < Mike1> esden: we are evel
[01:47] < Mike1> evil*
[01:47] < esden> yes we are ;-)
[01:47] < Caspar__> rxr: i'll try this out tomorrow ...
[01:52] < rxr> [reminder] tomorrow is the offical chat!
[01:53] < rxr> esden: works fine here:
[01:53] < rxr> Checked out revision 162.
[01:54] < rxr> oui - a working copy has a size of 82 MB
[01:56] < esden> rxr: yes sure ... I remember ... I have to change the wellcome message of #rocklinux as requested by jocelin when I am back on my feet
[01:57] < esden> my poor box ... it is building svn, alsa and mozilla symultanously ...
[01:57] < esden> I really have to consider buying new hardware ... >_<
[01:59] < Mike1> ahh, coreutils patch ready, restesting it once more before submiting it :)
[01:59] < Mike1> retesting*
[02:01] < rxr> esden: /me too
[02:01]   rxr really needs a quad Athlon64 box with arround 8GB RAM
[02:01] < rxr> that would match my needs ...
[02:04] < esden> rxr: not only yours
[02:04] < esden> ask amd ...
[02:04] < esden> when 2.0 is out ...
[02:06] < rxr> esden: not before ?
[02:07] < rxr> with the iBook I carry around I should ask if I get an better one for free - I do so much pro Apple advertisement ...
[02:07] < esden> after the 1.6 desaster?
[02:07] < rxr> esden: they don't now
[02:07] < esden> hmm ... yes ... ok
[02:07] < esden> so we should ask
[02:07] < esden> if they will borrow at least such boxes
[02:08] < Mike1> rxr, esden don't forget about /me when begging for hardware..
[02:08] < Mike1> please :)
[02:08] < esden> Mike1: you get my box if I get such a monster ;-)
[02:08] < Mike1> esden: arrgg!! i want a monster too
[02:08] < Mike1> :)
[02:08] < esden> hehe ...
[02:09] < Mike1> esden: but natalie will be welcome as well..
[02:09] < Mike1> *ggg*
[02:09] < rxr> Mike1: why monster - I consider this small-scale
[02:09] < rxr> entry level ...
[02:09] < esden> rxr: yes ... you are right
[02:09] < Mike1> rxr: it was just an expression after esden's monster expression..
[02:10] < esden> rxr: in some months such a box is boring and too slow
[02:10] < rxr> so I have this awstat running on my too servers
[02:11]   esden working on getting new svn and alsa working on his box
[02:12] < Mike1> rxr: patch for coreutils is ready, but i am for my build to get to the point where it fails so i can make sure it works perfect, this is on the smp box so won't take too long ok?
[02:12] < esden> rxr: how can I use svn over a proxy?
[02:13] < Mike1> +waiting...
[02:13] < Mike1> esden: man svn :)
[02:13]   Mike1 teasing esden :))
[02:13] < esden> Mike1: I would not ask if it would be in there ...
[02:14] < rxr> esden: yes - but never tried. Read the FAQ ...
[02:19] < Mike1> esden:
[02:19] < Mike1> Some proxies that filter port 80 nevertheless allow anything on port 81. For this reason, the svn.collab.net repository server listens on port 81 as well as on port 80. Try:
[02:19] < Mike1>    svn checkout https://svn.collab.net:81/repos/svn/trunk subversion
[02:20] < Mike1> esden: actually just: https://subversion.tigris.org/project_faq.html#proxy
[02:20] < Mike1> read the whole thing
[02:20] < esden> Mike1: I found it ...
[02:20] < Mike1> esden: ah ok. good then.
[02:20]   esden is configuring svn
[02:20] -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux 1.5/1.6 is depricated please use 1.7/2.0 instead : ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now ( clifford 1.7 tree: cvs -d :pserver:[email protected]:/home/cvs co -P rock-src-1.7; rxr 2.0 tree: svn co https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-trunk/ )
[02:20] -!- Topic set by esden [Fri May 9 01:09:26 2003]
[02:21] < rxr> esden: adding a proxy shouldn't be that hard ...
[02:21] < rxr> is it ?
[02:21]   Mike1 away throwing up..brb..
[02:30] < Mike1> re... :((
[02:31] < esden> bllll ...
[02:31] < esden> it is not working ... somehow
[02:31] < esden> I set up everything correctly but it still does not work ...
[02:31] < esden> I fight with it tomorrow
[02:31] < esden> good night everyone
[02:32] < Mike1> n8 esdy
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[03:36] < rxr> n8
[03:36] < rxr> Marcelo Tosatti <m Linux 2.4.21-rc2
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[03:40] < Mike1> 1530 builds total, 302 completed fine, 0 with errors.
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[05:27] < Mike1> hi netrunner
[05:31] < Mike1> anyone awake?
[05:31]   Mike1 bored as hell..
[05:34] < n00kie> hola Mike1 :)
[05:35] < n00kie> Comó usted allí? :)
[05:35] < Mike1> estoy muy bien!
[05:35] < Mike1> y tu?
[05:35] < n00kie> mui bien, gracias :)
[05:35] < n00kie> muy
[05:35] < Mike1> (tu = unpersonal way to say you)
[05:35] < Mike1> n00kie: tu = dir
[05:35] < n00kie> yep :)
[05:35] < Mike1> n00kie: usted = Ihnen
[05:35] < n00kie> ah
[05:36] < n00kie> and what should I write?
[05:36] < Mike1> :)
[05:36] < Mike1> to me? tu :)
[05:36] < Mike1> n00kie: do bist mein freund.
[05:36] < Mike1> du*
[05:36] < n00kie> Mike1 mi amigo. :)
[05:37] < Mike1> ack
[05:37] < n00kie> Mike1 gusto de café
[05:37] < Mike1> english please
[05:37] < n00kie> Mike1 likes coffee
[05:37] < n00kie> wasn't this correct? :(
[05:38] < Mike1> n00kie: more or less
[05:38] < n00kie> uhm
[05:38] < Mike1> n00kie: the right way wopuld be:
[05:38] < n00kie> and what is correct? :)
[05:38] < Mike1> a Mike1 le gusta el cafe :)
[05:39] < n00kie> alright :)
[05:39] < Mike1> n00kie: also want to say: "Do you want some coffee Mike?" you say "Quieres un poco de cafe Mike?"
[05:39] < n00kie> ah
[05:39] < n00kie> ok :)
[05:40] < n00kie> I put this in my dictionary
[05:40] < Mike1> so what are you doing up this early my friend?
[05:41] < n00kie> I'm making homework
[05:42] < Mike1> hehehe
[05:42] < n00kie> :)
[05:42] < Mike1> lazy boy
[05:42] < Mike1> is that homework for today?
[05:42] < n00kie> yes
[05:43] < n00kie> in 2 hours school
[05:43] < Mike1> LOL
[05:43] < n00kie> but nobody is lazier than esden
[05:43] < n00kie> you said ;)
[05:43] < Mike1> n00kie: well i think _NULL_ can be lazier sometimes
[05:43] < Mike1> but keep the secret
[05:43] < Mike1> :)
[05:43] < n00kie> ehehe, right :)
[05:44] < Mike1> hehe gee is really early for you
[05:44] < n00kie> hehe
[05:44] < n00kie> uhuh
[05:44] < n00kie> :)
[05:45] < n00kie> 9:43
[05:45] < Mike1> hehe
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[05:45] < Mike1> yup i still have to go to bed sometime later
[05:45] < n00kie> not now :)
[05:46] < Mike1> nah, not yet
[05:46] < Mike1> i am talking to my friend n00kie
[05:48] < n00kie> yes, thats importender than sleeping
[05:48] < Mike1> lol
[05:48] < Mike1> also i am debuggin rock generic :)
[05:49] < Mike1> n00kie: you see:
[05:49] < Mike1> == 15:46:36 =[3]=> Building base/dietlibc [0.22 1.7-snapshot].
[05:49] < Mike1> == 21:32:14 =[5]=> Building x11/imagemagick [5.5.6 1.7-snapshot].
[05:49] < Mike1> == 17:01:16 =[5]=> Building base/at [3.1.7 1.7-snapshot].
[05:50] < Mike1> *g
[05:50] < Mike1> Finishing build.
[05:50] < Mike1> -> Creating package database ...
[05:50] < Mike1> -> Creating isofs.txt file ..
[05:50] < Mike1> root@mike:/build/miguel/rock-src-1.7#
[05:50] < Mike1> :)
[05:53] < n00kie> ehehe :)
[05:53] < n00kie> I#d build my own Rock 2days before you :)
[05:53] < n00kie> and it works :)
[05:53] < Mike1> thats good
[05:54] < Mike1> n00kie: my builds are for debugging and testing only :)
[05:54] < n00kie> ah :)
[05:54] < n00kie> alright, I'll be back in a few minutes :)
[05:54] < n00kie> taking a shower
[05:54] < n00kie> brb
[05:54] < Mike1> root@mike:/build/miguel/rock-src-1.7# ./scripts/Create-ErrList
[05:54] < Mike1> Error logs from system-1.7-snapshot-x86-k6-3-minimal-expert:
[05:54] < Mike1> 245 builds total, 245 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[05:54] < Mike1> enjoy :)
[06:01] < n00kie> re :)
[06:01] < Mike1> what kind of a shower was that?
[06:01] < Mike1> did the water actually touched something more than ur hands and face?
[06:01] < Mike1> *g
[06:01] < n00kie> [06:01:10][root@n0nsense][/usr/src/rock-src]> ./scripts/Create-ErrList
[06:01] < n00kie> Error logs from default-1.7-snapshot-x86-athlon-xp-bootdisk:
[06:01] < n00kie> 151 builds total, 151 completed fine, 0 with errors.
[06:01] < n00kie> [06:01:19][root@n0nsense][/usr/src/rock-src]>
[06:01] < n00kie> a god :)
[06:01] < n00kie> good
[06:02] < Mike1> mm..
[06:02] < Mike1> what target is it? installdisks?
[06:02] < n00kie> yep
[06:02] < Mike1> i got it perfect too
[06:02] < n00kie> i know :)
[06:02] < Mike1> the target i pasted was 'minimal' target
[06:03] < n00kie> aem
[06:03] < n00kie> wait
[06:03] < n00kie> If I don't have this traffic flat
[06:03] < n00kie> I would build more :)
[06:03] < n00kie> Did you created generic -required?
[06:04] < Mike1> huh?
[06:05] < n00kie> what is minimal target?
[06:06] < Mike1> is a new target i am working on
[06:06] < n00kie> Ah :)
[06:06] < Mike1> its a minimalistic target
[06:06] < n00kie> I must try
[06:06] < n00kie> is it with X ?
[06:06] < Mike1> without X
[06:07] < n00kie> okay
[06:07] < Mike1> it onlyt has a very minimun system that you can use to build
[06:07] < n00kie> ah
[06:07] < n00kie> cool :)
[06:07] < Mike1> in case ur hd is too small
[06:07] < Mike1> :)
[06:07] < n00kie> i have 120Gigs :)
[06:07] < Mike1> will share an iso with you tomorrow
[06:07] < n00kie> okay, thank you ! :-))
[06:07] < Mike1> so hd space is not a problem for ya :)
[06:07] < n00kie> yeah, but I could try :)
[06:08] < n00kie> And I use 9.5gn
[06:08] < n00kie> gb
[06:08] < n00kie> lol
[06:08] < Mike1> :)
[06:08] < Mike1> ok n00kie, i am really not feeling good
[06:09] < n00kie> why?
[06:09] < Mike1> i just stayed awake till now cause i wanted to give that iso to a friend (rolla)
[06:09] < Mike1> i have been throwing up all night
[06:09] < Mike1> and feel very weak
[06:09] < Mike1> so i am going home now
[06:09] < Mike1> n00kie: Buenas noches mi amigo.
[06:10] < n00kie> alright
[06:10] < Mike1> in case you didn't understand: Gute nacht mein freund.
[06:10] < n00kie> ah
[06:10] < n00kie> el adios Mike1 :)
[06:10] < n00kie> Have a nice day and, "goo
[06:10] < n00kie> good night
[06:10] < Mike1> :)
[06:10] < Mike1> n8 all.
[06:10]   Mike1 gone to bed.
[06:11] < Mike1> yeah! coreutils patch worked :)
[06:11] < Mike1> byw
[06:11] < Mike1> bye*
[06:11] < lowks> who writes packages for rocklinux ?
[06:12] < lowks> do users submit them or what ?
[06:20]   n00kie reboot
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[07:20] < blindcoder> moin
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[09:07] < ringo78> moin
[09:18] < blindcoder> moin moin
[09:25] < _NULL_> moin
[09:38] < esden> morgen
[09:39] < blindcoder> moin esdi
[09:40] < _NULL_> hi esden
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[09:44]   blindcoder now getting the Megatokyo OST
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[10:07] < JTBurn> good morning :)
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[10:09] < esden> cu everyone -> uni
[10:10] < netrunner> esden: you're to late!
[10:13] < blindcoder> netrunner: aren't you used to that behaviour from him? :D
[10:15] < _NULL_> blindcoder: eh, you're evil :p
[10:16] < blindcoder> _NULL_: no, just honest :D
[10:16] < _NULL_> hehe ;) ok...
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[12:21] < netrunner> *g* glibc takes 9h to compile, while dietibc is done in 3 mins
[12:23] < _NULL_> netrunner: on which machine?
[12:24] < netrunner> null: p3-500, 256MB ram. maybe the nfs mountet rock-src is the bottleneck?
[12:25] < _NULL_> dunno... sorry.
[12:25] < netrunner> might be, the nic-led is flashing like hell ;)
[12:26] < _NULL_> but in LFS there is the SBU: 14.71... --> takes loooong
[12:28] < blindcoder> SBU? did they change that?
[12:28] < blindcoder> I remember it being BSU
[12:29] < _NULL_> blindcoder: SBUs are Static Bash Units << "copy and paste of lfs-book"
[12:30] < blindcoder> okay, then they changed it
[12:30] < blindcoder> last time I read it it was called "Bash Standard Units"
[12:30] < _NULL_> ok ;)
[12:31] < _NULL_> when did you have a look last time, into the lfs-book?
[12:32] < blindcoder> erm... okay, I rest my case
[12:33] < _NULL_> :p
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[12:35] < rxr> re
[12:36] < _NULL_> wb rxr
[12:37]   blindcoder slurping some Jolt to wake up
[12:53]   rxr enjoys the new awstat web statistic ;)
[13:01] < daja77> moin
[13:01] < rxr> moin daja77
[13:01] < daja77> hi rxr
[13:03] < daja77> hmm clug meeting at 19.00, that means 5.5h to work on realtime rock release
[13:04] < daja77> damn my box at home hung up :(
[13:06] < rxr> daja77: that is bad
[13:06] < rxr> I now have an preemtive 2.5.69 runnin
[13:06] < daja77> ACK
[13:06] < blindcoder> daja77: no reconnect script?
[13:06] < daja77> blindcoder: not yet
[13:06] < rxr> the 2.5.68 did  not crash and showed no other odd behaviour ...
[13:06] < daja77> only a keep alive ping ;)
[13:06] < blindcoder> daja77: what do you use? ISDN? DSL?
[13:06] < daja77> isdn
[13:06] < blindcoder> okay... otherwise I could have given you mine...
[13:07] < daja77> hmm I thought about writing script whic establishes connection when I call via mobile
[13:09] < daja77> subversion site not responding >_<
[13:10] < daja77> rene could you send me the release tarball for subversion?
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[13:16] < _NULL_> hi dichter
[13:16] < daja77> lol
[13:16] < dichter> hi null
[13:16] < daja77> hi dichter
[13:16] < daja77> ah subversion responding again
[13:17] < dichter> hi daja
[13:17] < dichter> hi everyone
[13:18] < dichter> wich languege is apropriate here?
[13:18] < dichter> language
[13:18] < daja77> EN
[13:18] < dichter> thx
[13:19] < dichter> i have a queation regarding installing rocklinux 1.6.0-pre4.i686
[13:19] < daja77> ahme dichter please read the topic
[13:19] < daja77> ahem I mean
[13:19] < dichter> i have an CD made from ISO, but it does not boot
[13:20] < dichter> ok, where can i get the 2.0 image ?
[13:20] < dichter> i have no system where i can compile
[13:25] < daja77> https://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~drock/latest/2.0.0-beta/
[13:27] < rxr> we should point people to download page - the nexus server already transfered > 120 GB in the last week - then poeple chose a mirror from the list it might do some traffic balancing ... ;-)
[13:27] < daja77> ok sorry
[13:28] < dichter> :-)
[13:28] < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/binary.html
[13:28] < rxr> daja77: no problem ;-) I just wonder why nexus has most of the traffic - when my master server has nearly none ... ;-)
[13:28] < daja77> rxr: the subversion site is still fscked up somehow, could you send me the subversion tarball, that I can checkout your tree here?
[13:29] < rxr> daja77: which page is broken ?
[13:29] < daja77> download
[13:29] < rxr> daja77: url ?
[13:29] < daja77> https://subversion.tigris.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList?folderID=260
[13:30] < rxr> https://subversion.tigris.org/files/documents/15/4
[13:30] < rxr> 016/
[13:31] < rxr> of course without the \n ...
[13:32] < daja77> Error!
[13:32] < daja77> No matches to your request were found.
[13:33] < daja77> this is annoying
[13:34] < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/subversion-0.22.0.tar.bz2
[13:34] < daja77> thx very much
[13:35] < dichter> thanks, i will check back if i have the same error aocuring again...
[13:35] < dichter> cu
[13:35] < rxr> dichter: you try the -beta ?
[13:35] < dichter> i will...
[13:35] < rxr> nice
[13:35] < rxr> have fun
[13:35] < dichter> i had no luck with 1.6.0.pre3 and pre4
[13:36] < rxr> dichter: yes - 1.6.x got out of scope
[13:36] < rxr> and even destablized :-(
[13:36] < dichter> :-(
[13:36] < rxr> 2.0 is far more stable and advanced ...
[13:36] < rxr> this is why 1.6 is obsolete now.
[13:36] < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/getting.html
[13:37] < dichter> i hope it will boot :-)
[13:37] < rxr> ^- new menu entries ho do you like those ?
[13:37] < rxr> dichter: it should ;-)
[13:37] < dichter> cu guys/gals
[13:37] < rxr> cu dichter
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[13:37] < daja77> cu dichter have fun
[13:37] < daja77> damn
[13:38] < daja77> btw my home isn't hung up, I just ran into a routing trap at work
[13:39] < daja77> rxr: what about disabling the 1.6 download links?
[13:41] < rxr> daja77: the main problem is that there are no 1.7 / 2.0 tarballs on the rocklinux page
[13:41] < rxr> I sent them to cliff - but he seems ot be in vacation these days ...
[13:42] < daja77> *hmpf*
[13:47] < daja77> rxr: maybe he enjoys austria's linux weeks *g*
[13:58] < rxr> yeah ,)
[14:00] < daja77> O_o why is the svn client lib not build
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[14:10] < _NULL_> hi n00kie
[14:11] < daja77> hehe
[14:11] < daja77> hi n00kie
[14:12] < daja77> anyone knows a long double datatype (C under linux) ??
[14:15] < _NULL_> or a not so nice error:
[14:15] < _NULL_> checking size of long double... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long double), 77
[14:15] < _NULL_> with glibc-2.3.2
[14:15] < _NULL_> (and gcc-3.2.3)
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[14:46] < daja77> huhu Lorini_
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[15:13] < rxr> next cleanup iteration of the homepage finished:#
[15:13] < rxr> https://www.rocklinux.org/projects/drock/
[15:14] < daja77> rxr: subversion 0.22 doesn't compile completely now trying 0.21 again
[15:14] < rxr> daja77: hm - compiles fine here :-(
[15:14] < rolla> re
[15:15] < rolla> == 07:13:06 =[5]=> Building rene/kopete [0.6.1s 1.7-snapshot].
[15:15] < daja77> rxr: it forgot to compile svn client lib
[15:28] < rolla> where do these random comments come from ?
[15:28] < daja77> huh?
[15:29] < rolla> on the stats page
[15:29] < daja77> ahem from the logs
[15:30] < daja77> and have yu got a higher rank now? *gg*
[15:30] -!- martin [[email protected]] has joined #rocklinux
[15:30] < martin> hi all
[15:30] < daja77> hi martin
[15:31] < rolla> you allways did
[15:31] < martin> hi daja77
[15:31] < daja77> hehe no
[15:31] < rolla> == 08:21:54 =[5]=> Building rene/kdevelop [3.0a4a 1.7-snapshot].
[15:32] < rolla> ever since I knew of the stats you have been in the top 10
[15:32] < rolla> I have allways been 20
[15:32] < rolla> :P
[15:32] < daja77> rolla: I am at rank 10 since 3 days or so
[15:32] < rolla> plus some of us work and have families
[15:33] < daja77> hehe I work too
[15:33] < rolla> yeah at a uni not same
[15:34] < daja77> ;)
[15:34] < _NULL_> https://the-null.de.vu/misc/sick-stuff/fachinformatiker/bestofZP.txt << something to laugh at
[15:35] < rolla> yeah if I read german ;)
[15:35] < _NULL_> rolla: sorry...
[15:35] < blindcoder> 9b
[15:36] < blindcoder> 33d
[15:36] < daja77> *loool*
[15:36] < blindcoder> 34b
[15:36] < blindcoder> 34 was also in my final test :)
[15:36] < blindcoder> copy'n'pasted :)
[15:36] < _NULL_> blindcoder: ???
[15:37] < blindcoder> _NULL_: the answers
[15:37] < blindcoder> 9 - b
[15:37] < blindcoder> 33 - d
[15:37] < blindcoder> 34 - b
[15:37] < blindcoder> and I had question 34 in my Finals :)
[15:37] < _NULL_> omg
[15:37] < blindcoder> with the exact same phrasing of question AND answers
[15:38] < blindcoder> but I must say that 9 _is_ a bit hard
[15:38] < blindcoder> because if someone only knows x86 then everything doesn't make sense :)
[15:38] < daja77> and 34 is wrong
[15:38] < blindcoder> ?
[15:38] < blindcoder> 34 b
[15:39] < daja77> a trojan doesn't necessarily hides in src could be in binary as well
[15:39] < blindcoder> okay, a trojan horse is not necessarily a virus
[15:39] < rolla> :)
[15:39] < blindcoder> daja77: you're reading a test domnated by Windows-Users
[15:40] < rolla> that is allways painful
[15:40] < blindcoder> so you have to switch down your IQ to slightly above room temperature
[15:40] < blindcoder> and btw: ASM is also a kind of source
[15:40] < rolla> :)
[15:40] < daja77> hehe I don't wanna
[15:41] < _NULL_> 33 - d, and 34 - b
[15:41] < _NULL_> (ihk says)
[15:41] < blindcoder> _NULL_: yes
[15:41] < daja77> rxr: is it possible to use svn with a proxy
[15:41] < blindcoder> and 9b
[15:41] < martin> cul
[15:42] -!- martin [[email protected]] has left #rocklinux ("Client exiting")
[15:42] < _NULL_> it's ill, isn't it?
[15:42] < blindcoder> sick
[15:42] < daja77> huh, what have we done to him
[15:42] < blindcoder> not ill, you say sick in these cases
[15:42] < daja77> it is sick, ack
[15:42] < blindcoder> _NULL_: but still
[15:43] < blindcoder> _NULL_: some answers make about as much sense as the test for a driver's license
[15:43] < _NULL_> blindcoder: i have no driver's license... (and not did a test or stuff)
[15:43] < blindcoder> while #33 has about 2 possible answers
[15:44] < blindcoder> _NULL_: from a DL-Test: Q: How do you minimize gas-usage?
[15:44] < blindcoder> a) Opening the window
[15:44] < blindcoder> b) driving with >4000 RPMs
[15:44] < blindcoder> c) switching gears early
[15:45] < _NULL_> *cough* *cough*
[15:45] < daja77> a) I guess *gg*
[15:45] < _NULL_> i guess e) "zerreiss den test"
[15:46] < blindcoder> _NULL_: hehe... that's what I almost did at "Bundeswehr"
[15:46] < blindcoder> the stupid computer showed me the same questions three times in a row
[15:46] < blindcoder> so I thought about punching it :P
[15:46] < daja77> what a luck that I never had to go to the army
[15:47] < _NULL_> blindcoder: *lol*
[15:48] < blindcoder> daja77: me neither :D
[15:49] < blindcoder> just took the test... and got dismissed
[15:49] < daja77> hehe
[15:50] < rolla> you guys/gal and your tests :)
[15:50]   daja77 never had these tests
[15:51] < blindcoder> daja77: why not?
[15:52] < daja77> I did not qualify for bundeswehr test *g*
[15:52] < daja77> + I am studying
[15:55] < blindcoder> i see
[15:56] < blindcoder> I was dismissed for "Akne" (thouh it's hardly there :P)
[15:56] < daja77> lol
[15:57]   daja77 was dismissed cos the army has no armored wheelchairs *gg*
[15:59]   daja77 screams a bit
[16:01] < rolla> ????
[16:01] < daja77> I can't do svn checkout here *damn it*
[16:02] < rolla> warum?
[16:02] < daja77> cos svn can't use proxy and doesn't compile on the box which doesn't need proxy
[16:04] < _NULL_> <-- going home
[16:04] < _NULL_> bye
[16:05] < blindcoder> what about transconnect?L
[16:05] < rolla> daja77: that sucks
[16:05] < daja77> blindcoder: ??
[16:05] < daja77> rolla: ACK
[16:09] < daja77> btw autoconf sucks like hell
[16:11] < blindcoder> daja77: transconnects uses the HTTP CONNECT to make direct connections through proxies
[16:11] < blindcoder> transconnect
[16:11] < blindcoder> it's a .so to be used with LD_PRELOAD
[16:16] < daja77> thx
[16:17] < daja77> hmm sf is so lame...
[16:18] < daja77> 8kb of 18 kb at 0.2kb/s wtf
[16:20] < rxr> Committed revision 164.
[16:21] < daja77> d'oh
[16:22] < daja77> rxr: is there proxy support in svn?
[16:28] < daja77> blindcoder: ? this doesn't work
[16:29] < blindcoder> daja77: well... if your proxy-admin is paranoid, then maybe it won't
[16:32] < daja77> Connection Refused: Forbidden
[16:32] < daja77> o
[16:33] < rxr> daja77: it should work with proxies - read the FAQ of svn
[16:34] < rxr> cu later
[16:34] < daja77> *hmpf+ why can't they write it into the man page
[16:34] < daja77> cu rxr
[16:34] < daja77> *gna* tigris.org down again
[16:35]   daja77 thinks of commiting suicide today
[16:35] < blindcoder> daja77: suicide without me? :P
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[16:36] < fronti> hellp
[16:36] < daja77> blindcoder: you are invited to join, this friday sucks
[16:36]   daja77 helps fronti to stand up
[16:37] < fronti> s/p/o/
[16:37] < fronti> ;)
[16:38] < daja77> hi fronti ;)
[16:38] < blindcoder> daja77: maybe because it's a friday
[16:38] < blindcoder> fridays seem to have this tendency for suckage
[16:39] < daja77> yeah maybe, hey I managed to get things right yesterday but not today :(
[16:39] < fronti> but help is needet too.. i'n trying to compile the latest rock snapshot on an gentoo rc4 system.. in stage 0 the build of glibc sems to hang.. is this a known problem?
[16:40] < daja77> latest rock snapshot, which one?
[16:40] < fronti>   rock-src-1.7-200305071030
[16:40] < daja77> O_o new to me
[16:41] < daja77> well the best thing will be to install subversion and check out 2.0.0-beta2 tree as described in topic
[16:43] < blindcoder> daja77: when home I'll hide in my room watching Anime the rest of the day
[16:44] < blindcoder> daja77: that's the best way of beating a Friday IMO :P
[16:44]   daja77 doesn't watch anime
[16:45] < fronti> daja77: i can try this, but i don't belive on this.. the error looks like an error in the combination rocklinux build / gentoo base system.. (building new rock versions on my rock servers works fine )
[16:45] < daja77> sure but what's the problem with gentoo?
[16:46] < daja77> *hmpf* /me biting the carpet *aaaargh*
[16:47] < blindcoder> daja77: ?
[16:47] < daja77> whatever I try nothing works
[16:48] < blindcoder> well, it's a friday after all :)
[16:48] < blindcoder> ah
[16:48] < blindcoder> 10 mins until go-home-time :)
[16:49] < daja77> you lucky bastard >_<
[16:50] < blindcoder> MWAHAHAHA
[16:52] < fronti> hmm, it seems that the build of glibc goes into an endless loop.. very strange
[16:54]   blindcoder going home
[16:54] < blindcoder> baba
[16:56] < daja77> bye blindcoder
[16:58] < rolla> crazy
[16:58] < daja77> rolla: ??
[16:58] < rolla> damn MSSQL crap
[16:59] < daja77> rolla: crappy friday too?
[17:02] < rolla> yeah
[17:03] < daja77> rolla: I'd need a weapon to shoot the network admins down
[17:03] < rolla> why?
[17:03] < daja77> because their net config prevents me from doin my work
[17:04] < rolla> :)
[17:04] < rolla> got to love it
[17:05] < fronti> so, feierabend..
[17:05] < daja77> hahaha the stupid nt proxy doesn't support the svn commands...
[17:05] < daja77> fronti: bye and have fun
[17:06] < rolla> there is yor problem NT proxy bad
[17:06] < daja77> no no no, this is _not_ my NT proxy
[17:22] < daja77> rolla: have seen "Goodbye Lenin" already?
[17:24] < rolla> nein
[17:24] < daja77> do they show it in the usa?
[17:26] < rolla> yeah right
[17:27] < daja77> good ;)
[17:28] < rolla> ?
[17:28] < rolla> daja77: that is sarcasm
[17:28] < daja77> why
[17:28] < rolla> I would have to work very hard to find it
[17:28] < rolla> I have to use edonkey to download german bootleg
[17:29] < daja77> sorry then I got you wrong, I thought you said that they show it
[17:29] < rolla> "yeah right" is a phrase of sarcasm here sorry
[17:29]   rolla switchs on his american pharses
[17:30] < rolla> yeah right == as if
[17:30] < daja77> *g* ;)
[17:32] < daja77> rolla: hmm it will be even harder to find one with subtitles
[17:32] < rolla> yup
[17:32] < rolla> that is why I just need to find english transcripts and watch and read at the same time
[17:32] < rolla> like reading manga
[17:32] < daja77> hmm
[17:33] < rolla> ?
[17:34] < daja77> it was another form of ack
[17:38] < rolla> oh
[17:38] < daja77> ;)
[17:39] < rolla> == 10:38:48 =[5]=> Building rene/tetex [2.0.2 1.7-snapshot].
[17:39] < daja77> lol
[17:39] < rolla> was?
[17:40] < daja77> it is the package which rene claims to have fixed finally, had no time to test it right now
[17:40] < rolla> oh
[17:42] < daja77> it might be still broken in your checkout
[17:42] < rolla> I
[17:42] < rolla> am surew
[17:42] < daja77> ;)
[17:43] < daja77> I can't believe it, I am alone with you, here
[17:45] < daja77> O_o heavy rain started...
[17:59] < n00kie> Howdy daja77 :)
[18:00] < daja77> hi n00kie
[18:00] < daja77> how was your friday?
[18:01] < n00kie> bda
[18:01] < n00kie> bad
[18:01] < n00kie> I had headache
[18:01] < n00kie> but no it ends :)
[18:03] < daja77> hehe join our club
[18:05] < rolla> what club is that?
[18:06] < rolla> == 11:09:19 =[5]=> Building praenti/libmikmod [3.1.10 1.7-snapshot].
[18:06] < rolla> cool all my packages are failing :)
[18:06] < rolla> this is going to be one great ISO
[18:07] < daja77> rolla: the club of friday haters
[18:07] < daja77> rolla: your packages?
[18:07] < rolla> yeah stage 5 bunch of them are dieing
[18:08] < rolla> you want to see?
[18:08] < rxr> re
[18:08] < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.tdb.1052496590.10717.158643777
[18:08] < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out
[18:08] < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[18:08] < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
[18:08] < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
[18:08] < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.tdb.1052496590.10717. ..
[18:08] < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/tdb/tdb-1.0.6.tar.bz2
[18:08] < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
[18:08] < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out -> 5-tdb.err
[18:08] < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:06 =[5]=> Aborted building package tdb.
[18:08] < rolla> Creating binary package file for tdb.
[18:08] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.tar.bz2
[18:08] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.gem
[18:08] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:08] < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
[18:08] < rolla> == 11:10:09 =[5]=> Building clifford/ddclient [3.6.2 1.7-snapshot].
[18:08] < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
[18:08] < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.ddclient.1052496607.13567.1848762819
[18:08] < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out
[18:09] < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[18:09] < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
[18:09] < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
[18:09] < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.ddclient.1052496607.1 ..
[18:09] < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/ddclient/ddclient-3.6. ..
[18:09] < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
[18:09] < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out -> 5-ddclient.err
[18:09] < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:23 =[5]=> Aborted building package ddclient.
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rolla> Creating binary package file for ddclient.
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.tar.bz2
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.gem
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: did you downloaded the files required for the build ?
[18:09] < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
[18:09] < rxr> rolla: hello !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:09] < rolla> == 11:10:25 =[5]=> Building clifford/sweep [0.5.13 1.7-snapshot].
[18:09] < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.sweep.1052496623.16415.458502387
[18:09] < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out
[18:09] < rolla> !> ******************************************************** ..
[18:09] < rolla> !> configure: error:
[18:09] < rolla> !> ***
[18:09] < rolla> !> *** After fixing the above problems, you must run ./conf ..
[18:09] < rolla> !> ***
[18:09] < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out -> 5-sweep.err
[18:09] < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:11:03 =[5]=> Aborted building package sweep.
[18:10] < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.tdb.1052496590.10717.158643777
[18:10] < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out
[18:10] < daja77> rolla: PLEASE STOP THAT
[18:10] < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[18:10] < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
[18:10] < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
[18:10] < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.tdb.1052496590.10717. ..
[18:10] < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/tdb/tdb-1.0.6.tar.bz2
[18:10] < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
[18:10] < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-tdb.out -> 5-tdb.err
[18:10] < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:06 =[5]=> Aborted building package tdb.
[18:10] < rxr> YES PLEASE !!!
[18:10] < rolla> Creating binary package file for tdb.
[18:10] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.tar.bz2
[18:10] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/tdb.gem
[18:10] < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
[18:10] < rolla> == 11:10:09 =[5]=> Building clifford/ddclient [3.6.2 1.7-snapshot].
[18:10] < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
[18:10] < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.ddclient.1052496607.13567.1848762819
[18:10] < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out
[18:10] < rolla> !> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[18:10] < daja77> *AAAARGH*
[18:10] < rolla> !> This is free software; see the source for copying condit ..
[18:10] < rolla> !> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A  ..
[18:11] < rolla> !> [ writing debug log to /R.work/src.ddclient.1052496607.1 ..
[18:11] < rolla> !> File not found: download/clifford/ddclient/ddclient-3.6. ..
[18:11] < rolla> !> Did you run ./scripts/Download for this package?
[18:11] < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-ddclient.out -> 5-ddclient.err
[18:11] < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:10:23 =[5]=> Aborted building package ddclient.
[18:11] < rolla> Creating binary package file for ddclient.
[18:11] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.tar.bz2
[18:11] < rolla> -> Building build/.../pkgs/ddclient.gem
[18:11] < rolla> -> Removing temporary tar.bz2.
[18:11] < rolla> == 11:10:25 =[5]=> Building clifford/sweep [0.5.13 1.7-snapshot].
[18:11] < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.sweep.1052496623.16415.458502387
[18:11] < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out
[18:11] < rxr> hehe rolla is /ignore'd now
[18:11] < rolla> !> ******************************************************** ..
[18:11] < rolla> !> configure: error:
[18:11] < rolla> !> ***
[18:11] < rxr> silence in the channel ;-)
[18:11] < rolla> !> *** After fixing the above problems, you must run ./conf ..
[18:11] < rolla> !> ***
[18:11] < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-sweep.out -> 5-sweep.err
[18:11] < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:11:03 =[5]=> Aborted building package sweep.
[18:11] < rolla> :)
[18:11] < rolla> :)
[18:11] < rolla> yup
[18:12] < rolla> but these are the packages that exist nowhere
[18:12] < rolla> :)
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[18:12] < daja77> wow they have kicked him
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[18:12] < rolla> re
[18:13] < daja77> btw I didn't say yes
[18:13] < rolla> ?
[18:13] < daja77> if I wanted to see all this crap
[18:13] < daja77> wb rxr
[18:13] < rolla> :)
[18:14] < daja77> rxr: I had no chance to use a proxy (cos this is a stupid NT proxy which doesn't understand svn commands >_<)
[18:14] < daja77> rolla: ok this were two packages right?
[18:15] < rolla> 6
[18:16] < rolla> daja77: I thought you would like to see it
[18:16] < rolla> rxr you still here ?
[18:16] < rolla> == 11:17:32 =[5]=> Building rene/apache [2.0.45 1.7-snapshot].
[18:16] < rxr> daja77: AFAIK svn doesn't need special firewall funktionallity - any non-stupid one should work
[18:16] < rxr> rolla: you _need_ to download the packages before the build !!!
[18:17] < rxr> run ./scripts/Download -required
[18:17] < rxr> and restart your everthing-fails build ...
[18:19] < daja77> rolla: in query next time please
[18:19] < daja77> rxr: this has nothing to do with firewall, but http commands svn is using
[18:20] < rolla> rxr: I did those ones are not on the mirrors or the main server !!!!
[18:22] < rxr> daja77: I meant s/firewall/proxy/ sorry (doing too much at the same time)
[18:23] < rxr> ah - yes. Use none as mirror for svn builds
[18:24] < rolla> == 11:17:32 =[5]=> Building rene/apache [2.0.45 1.7-snapshot].
[18:24] < rolla> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
[18:24] < rolla> -> Preparing build in src.apache.1052497050.9901.226066165
[18:24] < rolla> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/5-apache.out
[18:24] < rolla> -> $root/var/adm/logs/5-apache.out -> 5-apache.log
[18:24] < rolla> == 05/09/03 11:26:52 =[5]=> Finished building package apache.
[18:24] < rolla> yeah apache built :)
[18:24] < n00kie> fast
[18:25] < rolla> yup
[18:25] < rolla> rxr is subversion broken still in the build?
[18:25] < n00kie> mhm
[18:26] < daja77> it was broken here
[18:26] < rolla> okay
[18:26] < rolla> then it is broken in mine
[18:27] < n00kie> mhmm
[18:27] < n00kie> but
[18:27] < n00kie> why apache 2.x ?
[18:27] < n00kie> and not 1.3.x ?
[18:27] < rolla> cause apache2 rocks
[18:27] < rolla> no pun intended
[18:27] < n00kie> no pun?
[18:27] < n00kie> what does this mean?
[18:28] < rolla> not to make a word play on the name rock
[18:29] < daja77> this is _sick_, I checked out via svn at home and fetching the tarball via ssh to have it here
[18:29] < rolla> ugh
[18:29] < daja77> the only chance, I am so lucky having setup this dyndns stuff, I can't tell you
[18:31] < rolla> rxr I have restarted download
[18:36]   daja77 will go to the clug meeting cu
[18:37] < n00kie> wie ./scripts/Update-Src I'll download the latest snapshot?
[18:38] < rxr> n00kie: 2.0 is current apache stable branch. aside from cleanups and the usual features you can read about in magazines it is required for subversion ..
[18:38] < n00kie> alright
[18:38] < rxr> rolla: subversion builds fine the recent svn
[18:39] < n00kie> rxr: Thought about to put SIM into src tree?
[18:39] < daja77> maybe the tarball is broken
[18:39] < rolla> okay
[18:41] < daja77> bye
[18:41] < n00kie> have fun daja77!
[18:41] < rolla> jbye daja77
[18:41] < daja77> thank you
[18:43] < rxr> n00kie: SIM what ?
[18:43] < rolla> wow lots of missing packages
[18:44] < n00kie> rxr: ICQ Client based on QT
[18:44] < n00kie> https://sim-icq.sourceforge.net
[18:45] < rxr> n00kie: I just added kopete ... - if you need s.th. other package it into your own repository ...
[18:45] < rxr> Subject: GCC 3.3: 2nd prerelease
[18:45] < n00kie> um
[18:45] < n00kie> i will try kopete
[18:46] < n00kie> Is kopete broken ?
[18:46] < rxr> it builds here
[18:46] < rxr> here on my box using a desktop build only 25 packages are broken ...
[18:46] < rolla> what are they ?
[18:47] < n00kie> rxr: I'm trying to compile it..
[18:54] < rxr> n00kie: you need kde for it ...
[18:55] < n00kie> yes
[18:55] < n00kie> == 18:46:41 =[9]=> Building rene/kopete [0.6.1s 1.7-snapshot].
[18:55] < n00kie> In general, I don't like the k desktop environment
[18:55] < n00kie> but for some programs, it's not bad
[19:01] < rxr> I tagged beta2 in subversion
[19:01] < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/svn/rock-linux/rock-tags/
[19:02] < n00kie> umhm
[19:03] < n00kie> Kopete needs long to get compiled
[19:04] < _NULL_> re
[19:04] < rxr> hi _NULL_
[19:04] < _NULL_> hi rxr. how are you?
[19:11] < n00kie> wb _NULL_
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[19:19] < rxr> _NULL_: great - and you ?
[19:20] < _NULL_> rxr: alive. thx. why great?
[19:26] < rxr> _NULL_: all is just comming along well ... ;-)
[19:30] < _NULL_> hehe ;)
[19:33] < rxr> -beta2 released
[19:33] < rxr> freshmeat announcement, too
[19:37] < rolla> == 12:32:41 =[5]=> Building clifford/hercules [2.17.1 1.7-snapshot].
[19:39] < rolla> gnome14/rep-gtk01
[19:39] < rolla> is that still broken or do I just have an old cvs ?
[19:46] < rolla> anyone alive out there?
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[19:48] < rolla> re Mike1-home
[19:48] < Mike1-home> moin all
[19:48] < Mike1-home> rolla did u get my mail?
[19:48] < rolla> yup
[19:48] < rolla> I am most happy about it
[19:48]   Mike1-home is sick so he is at home today
[19:48] < rolla> I will test it this weekend
[19:49] < rolla> my build is moving along
[19:49] < Mike1-home> rolla great to hear that
[19:49] < rolla> yup
[19:49] < rolla> I am now 19 on the stats list :)
[19:49] < Mike1-home> rolla u can use that Joel edition iso to instal 1.7 on a box and use it to build a more complete system
[19:49] < rolla> :)
[19:49] < Mike1-home> rolla i am #3 :P
[19:49] < rolla> sweet
[19:49] < rolla> Mike1-home: I shall never pass you
[19:49] < rolla> I don't have the time too
[19:50] < rolla> I do not live and breath rock like you :)
[19:50] < Mike1-home> rolla the cool thing is that the joel iso is optimized for specifically that box
[19:50] < rolla> sweet
[19:50] < rolla> Mike1-home: I am still having packages break :(
[19:50] < Mike1-home> rolla well i have way many more stuff to do besides rock, and that includes normal work
[19:51] < rolla> true
[19:51] < Mike1-home> rolla maybe u wanna email me a list of those packages so i can try to fix them tomorrow when i am back to the office, well that is if i feel better
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[19:51] < _NULL_> hi Mike1-home
[19:51] < rolla> Mike1-home: I shall once it is done
[19:51] < Mike1-home> rolla btw i sent a patch to fix coreutils to the mailing list a few minutes ago, feel free to apply it to your tree
[19:53] < Mike1-home> rxr awake?
[19:53] < rolla> I sweet
[19:54] < Mike1-home> rolla :)
[19:54] < Mike1-home> ping daja77
[19:54] < rolla> Mike1-home: how does one take over a package in rock?
[19:54] < rolla> Mike1-home: daja77 is off at a meeting
[19:55] < Mike1-home> rolla ok u just put coreutils.diff in rock-src-1.7 and 'patch -Nfp1 < coreutils.diff'
[19:55] < Mike1-home> rolla easy as that :)
[19:55] < rolla> cool
[20:00] < rxr> hi Mike1-home
[20:00] < Mike1-home> rxr hi :)
[20:00] < Mike1-home> rxr i sent the coreutils package as i promissed.
[20:00] < rolla> == 13:01:34 =[5]=> Building gnome14/gdk-pixbuf10 [0.18.0 1.7-snapshot].
[20:01] < rolla> :)
[20:01] < rolla> a building I go
[20:01] < Mike1-home> rolla nice
[20:01] < rolla> yup
[20:01]   Mike1-home is glad that his builds are running fine, but wishes to have srcs here to run a build on his home workstation
[20:02] < rxr> Mike1-home: no the patch has not arrived here ...
[20:02] < Mike1-home> rxr i sent it to the rlml///
[20:02] < Mike1-home> s/// ...
[20:03] < rxr> ah there it is
[20:03] < Mike1-home> rxr :)
[20:03] < Mike1-home> rxr will fix my gnuash and evolution packages as soon as i am better and can go back to the office.
[20:04] < Mike1-home> rxr as i don't have any packages or rock srcs at here :(
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[20:09] < Mike1-home> hola n00kie
[20:10] < Mike1-home> _msg rolla i am not feeling very well so talk to u later, i am going to bed
[20:10] < Mike1-home> arrg
[20:10] < Mike1-home> cu all
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[20:40] < JoJoMe> Hi ! Is rxr online ?
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[20:41] < JoJoMe> I'm looking for the ADM_Prv.o file for setting up a 802.11 card
[20:41] < JoJoMe> it is required for the adm 8211
[20:41] < JoJoMe> anyone here ?
[20:41] < tcr> Ehm, does anyone have also problems with the mailinglist?
[20:42] < tcr> I receive mails, but when sending one I get a Relay Access Denied
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[20:43] < tcr> Ah, seems to be a local problem
[20:43] < rolla> tcr:
[20:44] < rxr> JoJoMe: yes
[20:44] < rxr> JoJoMe:  what do you exactly try and need ?
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[20:44] < JoJoMe> oops
[20:44] < JoJoMe> still no rxr here ?
[20:44] < rolla> rxr is here
[20:44] < rxr> "no" rxr ? hm ?
[20:44] < JoJoMe> Great !
[20:45] < JoJoMe> I'm looking for the ADM_Prv file you mentioned in an IRC log
[20:45] < JoJoMe> of 2003-04-01
[20:45] < rxr> mom
[20:45] < JoJoMe> I need that file to set an 802.11 card
[20:45] < JoJoMe> (ADM chipset, found in D-link 650 card..)
[20:46] < rxr> https://schillernet.dyndns.org/
[20:47] < rxr> JoJoMe: the link at the buttom
[20:47] < rxr> the tarball includes all the source and the binary only flie
[20:47] < rxr> file even
[20:47] < JoJoMe> thanx
[20:47] < rxr> JoJoMe: errr! IIRC the dlink has an TI chip
[20:47] < JoJoMe> did I get it well ? Is it for 802.11 ?
[20:47] < rxr> JoJoMe: no an ADMtek ...
[20:47] < JoJoMe> well, actually, it may have a TI or a ADM
[20:47] < JoJoMe> depends on which version
[20:48] < JoJoMe> from what I understand..
[20:48] < JoJoMe> if it is A1 or L1 version
[20:48] < JoJoMe> is it ?
[20:48] < rxr> hm - if you are sure. I only saw TI based up to now ...
[20:48] < rxr> but a simple look onto the chip will possibly help
[20:48] < rolla> crap
[20:48] < rxr> rolla: crap? where?
[20:49] < JoJoMe> Well, the link you gave me redirects me to the guy at HP. From there, I'm lost ;-<
[20:49] < rxr> JoJoMe: nope
[20:49] < JoJoMe> sorry
[20:49] < JoJoMe> I found it
[20:49] < rxr> the link at the buttom  of the page
[20:49] < rxr> ah ok
[20:54] < JoJoMe> I guess you're right : 8211.o: init_module: No such device
[20:54] < JoJoMe> too bad !
[21:01] < JoJoMe> thanx for everything.
[21:01] < JoJoMe> bye
[21:01] < rxr> bye
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[21:03] < tcr> Hmm, dunno what the problem is... seems to be somewhat with the uni.de smtp server...
[21:06] < tcr> eh, s/somewhat/something/
[21:19] < chaosmaster> anybody out there?
[21:19] < tcr> Partly
[21:20] < chaosmaster> is someony involved in the new page design?
[21:22] < tcr> Well, initially rxr, but he gave it out of his hand, i think
[21:23] < chaosmaster> he made the initial design, which was accepted by clifford for his cms, but nobody cares anymore :(
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[21:24] < tcr> Well.. I'd split the design completely off from the content
[21:24] < chaosmaster> i think, this is, what was done by this cms
[21:24] < tcr> And create an own preprocessing macro-like language for the content that's procedded by some sed script
[21:25] < chaosmaster> oh, no! not more sed scripts and macros and this shit - i'm not a friend of this
[21:26] < chaosmaster> I really hate^H^H^H^Hlike the m4 init macros :)
[21:26] < tcr> Why? Nobody should ever care because it's an internal format
[21:26] < tcr> Texts are added via the CMS
[21:26] < tcr> but to enable different templates, it must save the content in some format that's preprocessable
[21:26] < chaosmaster> yes, but at least the m4 macros are not that flexible like a real shell script as init file
[21:27] < tcr> No i don't really thought of macros
[21:27] < tcr> erm of m4
[21:27] < chaosmaster> for the webpage we even shouldn't need any macros
[21:27] < tcr> rather of some things like: ##TITLE## blah
[21:27] < tcr> etc
[21:28] < chaosmaster> AFAISee the "design" is just put around the edited texts
[21:28] < tcr> Well, then it's fine
[21:29] < tcr> I just anticipate the next dicussion about design/layout yadda, and then we can just say: Create a new template, the rest will be done automatically
[21:29] < chaosmaster> it's just that, everyone was happy about the cms, but no one seems to really care how to migrate our curent page
[21:29] < tcr> There'd be even the possibility to offer more than one design -- that all share the same content fiels
[21:30] < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about consistency
[21:30] < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence ....
[21:31] < tcr> I personally find the current design of the cms page really abhorrent
[21:31] < chaosmaster> explain
[21:31] < tcr> Well, I just me how one can find that aesthetically and structurally attractive without having a "Knick in der Optik" ;)
[21:31] < chaosmaster> :)
[21:31] < tcr> +ask
[21:32] < chaosmaster> whats your problem?
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[21:32] < tcr> Everything (except the main table with the shadow effect)
[21:33] < chaosmaster> would you like it more "coool", more 3l1t3? more clean, more structured ....?
[21:33] < tcr> the latter two...
[21:33] < tcr> I personally would be fine with a well-structured site in black on white
[21:34] < chaosmaster> :)
[21:34] < chaosmaster> this is (mostly) the same, what I said on the ML
[21:35] < tcr> Was it you who reffered to the xinehq page?
[21:35] < chaosmaster> design may be changed, but the content is terrible
[21:35] < chaosmaster> yes, I reffered
[21:36] < tcr> That's a very nicely cohorent webpage with a lot attractive, though not badly structured
[21:36] < tcr> I mostly care for the coherentness
[21:37] < chaosmaster> I like their way, how they made the download section - it's really easy to find everything
[21:38] < esden> hi all
[21:38] < chaosmaster> we still need content! adding it with structure is important, as many people will visit the hp when official 2.0 will be released
[21:38] < chaosmaster> hi esden!
[21:39] < tcr> chaosmaster: Well...
[21:39] < tcr> chaosmaster: The menu issue isn't yet any better than it was before
[21:40] < chaosmaster> i already tried to add some content, but its hard to work remote without having full access
[21:40] < tcr> I hardly can give any real suggestions though... I just see with my eyes, that it isn't right this way
[21:41] < chaosmaster> so tell, what's wrong in your opinion, and we may try to investigate further
[21:42] < tcr> Ok, but let's do that in a query... it's difficult to express that in any language anyway, and if possible at all, then in your mother tongue
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[21:43] < chaosmaster> :) bitte schön
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[22:28] < rxr> re
[22:28] < tcr> re
[22:30] < rxr> hi chaosmaster
[22:30] < _NULL_> someone using glibc-2.3.2, gcc-3.2.3 and tried to compile tcl-8.4.2 and got an error?
[22:32] < rxr> _NULL_: yes, yes and nope
[22:32] < _NULL_> *sigh*
[22:32] < _NULL_> ok... thx... (dammit, where's the failure?)
[22:32] < tcr> What error do you get?
[22:33] < _NULL_> tcr: output in #flood?
[22:34] < tcr> Upload is definitively better, so everybody can take easily a look at it
[22:35] < _NULL_> aeh... i'm not using rock....
[22:35] < _NULL_> (or the rock-scripts)
[22:36] < tcr> Hm, ok. what are you trying? (ie. at what stept do you get the error)
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[22:37] < freed> hi @ll
[22:37] < _NULL_> tcr: lfs and in https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/view/cvs/chapter05/tcl.html << this step
[22:38] < freed> lol geht ja so richtig los is schon 1700 mal gedownloadet worden
[22:38] < freed> dat neue release mein ich
[22:39] < _NULL_> hi freed
[22:39] < tcr> _NULL_: Hmm, well I actually meant what was the last command you typied in
[22:39] < freed> hi _null_
[22:39] < rxr> chaosmaster: what do you mean with:
[22:39] < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about
[22:39] < _NULL_> make LDFLAGS="-s"
[22:39] < rxr>                      consistency
[22:39] < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence ....
[22:40] < tcr> rxr: Maybe that drock should depriacted entirely right now
[22:40] < rxr> tcr: hm ? Explain
[22:43] < tcr> rxr: It may be just confusing ... drock has been integrated in rock, so there's no actual need for an extra release announcment of drock
[22:43] < freed> hi rxr
[22:43] < tcr> _NULL_: well then do 'make LDFLAGS="-s" 2>&1 | tee error.log' and upload that
[22:43] < rxr> tcr: you really didn't got the point - reread the mailing-list of the last months ...
[22:43] < rxr> hi freed !
[22:44] < _NULL_> https://the-null.de.vu/errors/error.log
[22:44] < _NULL_> @ tcr
[22:44] < tcr> rxr: Well, a bit more specific wouldn't harm... too much traffic over the last month
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[22:46] < rolla> == 15:48:51 =[5]=> Building rene/libdvdplay [1.0.1 1.7-snapshot].
[22:46] < rxr> tcr: we explained often that we decided that most people do not get what "ROCK Linux the distribution build kit" really is about
[22:47] < rolla> :)
[22:47] < rxr> _not_ even the ROCK guide gets this correct (it needs to be 95% rewritten anyway)
[22:47] < rxr> it is much better for ROCK when we announce and promote all the "ROCK powered" projects and hardware solutions seperately
[22:48] < rxr> so we do not have one "eierlegende wollmich sau" but many single products that fit one particular purpose
[22:48] < tcr> rxr: I'm in time fully aware what a DBK is all about
[22:48] < rxr> with this "one big thing" the people do not get what ROCK is about - and leave quickly
[22:49] < rolla> rxr I agree
[22:49] < rolla> the Rock guide needs big help
[22:50] < rxr> DBK ?
[22:50] < tcr> distribution build kit (too lazy to write it in full name ;))
[22:51] < rxr> ah ok
[22:51] < tcr> wait up, I found the thread in the mailinglist
[22:51] < rxr> so we have a announce of the pure build kit - and single announces of all the projects using it
[22:53] < tcr> Well, the intent is certainly right, but it has seemed (to me and to others apparantly too) that whenever main-rock gets updated, drock gets also. And there can't be made really differences... I think that _is_ confusing
[22:53] < n00kie> mmm
[22:54] < tcr> drock might be just be too much interlocked with rock than it probably should... Dunno, if that's good or bad now ;)
[22:56] < rxr> tcr: since I'm certainly do most work on ROCK Linux yes - dRock and ROCK have the same release schedule
[22:57] < tcr> and that's a bit messy... Well, though I don't really know if it's that what niko meant... just a guess
[22:57] < rxr> if other people would contribute more, this would change. Then other could tag individual components and we all would declare  the main "ROCK Linxu build kit" to have a new version when all agree
[22:59] < rxr> if daja77 with rtai or Cliff and I with some NAS or Router thing tag individual product individual "ROCK Linux as it" would also get other version tags - but I really do not see that dRock and ROCK currently in sync should be a problem at all
[22:59] < rxr> if you are happy I could increment the version of ROCK only every second time I increment dRock  or so ...
[22:59] < tcr> rxr: Hmm, well... I'm not up to date to sources (though that will change in one or two month, when I plan to come back being actively developing)... but maybe targets should be handled like packages, ie. downloaded from somewhere else (so that there's a direct distinction between the DBK and a target)
[23:01] < tcr> and also to make a target absolutely "independant" (to some degree)... Then the DBK would be really just like a Tool and not like a distribution
[23:05] < rxr> no - this would be really messy
[23:05] < rxr> you always would have to puzzle the right versions together and so
[23:06] < rxr> maybe some strange targets in a strange state can be handled this way - but all normal any clean coded targets should in be ROCK itself
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[23:08] < tcr> rxr: Hmm, I'm not really sure what the benefits are with that...
[23:09] < chaosmaster> chaosmaster is back from silence .... sorry for not responding
[23:10] < chaosmaster> hello rxr!
[23:10] < rxr> one strange thing in ROCK always has been strange
[23:10] < rxr> hi chaosmaster !
[23:11] < chaosmaster> rxr: you asked about my comment about the page?
[23:11] < rxr> chaosmaster: yes
[23:11] < rxr> the active people where happy - and the other outstanding people complained withotu contributing
[23:13] < tcr> _NULL_: Did you solve your problem? Sorry, that I suddenly interrupt talking to you
[23:13] < chaosmaster> I'm just want to finish one piece of work, as I usualy don't do so and as the new webpage concept with Cliffs cms is quite good, it needs only some input from all people and we would have a very new page with sex-appeal ...
[23:13] < rolla> == 16:06:31 =[5]=> Building gnome2/dia10 [0.91 1.7-snapshot].
[23:14] < _NULL_> tcr: dunno... i'm doing a completely rebuild of the system (which is not much, till now)... a friend was able to build tcl without problems (on a LFS-system)
[23:15] < rxr> chaosmaster: no I meant s.th. different - mom
[23:15] < tcr> _NULL_: Well, the error seems very trivial (just missing some include file somewhere), but, as tcl is actually a big package, I except some deeper error. Are you familiar with C code?
[23:16] < tcr> expect
[23:16] < rxr> chaosmaster: :
[23:16] < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> and as Joecelyn announced on fm, there may be some confusion about
[23:16] < rxr>                      consistency
[23:16] < rxr> 21:33 < chaosmaster> see drock und the root presence ....
[23:17] < chaosmaster> yes, thats right
[23:17] < _NULL_> tcr: yes i am... but - i'm still trying to reproduce the error... if this works - then i will have a deeper look into it... (but still i hope something is wrong with the stuff i did)
[23:18] < rxr> chaosmaster: I meant: what do you want to say with this - I don't understand ...
[23:18] < chaosmaster> I mean the beta cms is on www.rocklinux.net and curently just a test, but your part on rocklinux.org is in the new design and thats inconsistend - even with the cms
[23:20] < rxr> ahh !!! ok - I thought you meant some dRock ROCK confusion in general ...
[23:20] < rxr> I think most normal people do not find the CMS
[23:20] < rxr> so this should be no problem
[23:20] < chaosmaster> I would like to port the whole page to the cms and go online as you announce more and more releases on fm and people will go to our page and we have the same "no sex-appeal" and hobby-project iomage
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[23:21] < chaosmaster> but only the drock page is different from the rest of rocklinux._org_
[23:21] < rxr> chaosmaster: if you find people to do all the migration ...
[23:21] < chaosmaster> I will!
[23:21] < rxr> ah keep going
[23:21] < n00kie> ahhhhhhhh
[23:21] < tcr> Hmm, can't that be automated?
[23:21] < n00kie> i hate this damn damn damn fdisk
[23:21] < n00kie> waaah
[23:21] < n00kie> it destroyed my hdd :-(
[23:21] < rxr> but as cliff if you can start now - and the content you enter now can be later used for the ROCK side - or if there will be some data model change ...
[23:22] < rxr> chaosmaster: btw do you regular ROCK builds ?
[23:22] < chaosmaster> as you may notice, I tried to get back active on the list and made a bunch of propositions, but they got no response, even no echo :(
[23:22] < chaosmaster> no regulars, but a 4 weeks old build is on my server running (inconsistent)
[23:23] < chaosmaster> (it's silly to try to install a p4 build on an athlon)
[23:23] < rxr> inconsistent ?
[23:23] < rxr> ah yes
[23:23] < tcr> rxr: Not all time running
[23:23] < rxr> chaosmaster: any chance you get active before the final 2.0 ?
[23:23] < chaosmaster> so i had to rebuild the most importatnt packages and try and try ....
[23:24] < chaosmaster> what kind of activity do you need?
[23:24] < chaosmaster> I wanted to make the categories, I would migrate the page, but not without ppl standing behind the whole idea!
[23:25] < rxr> mostly verifing that it does not only buld on my box - but also on others
[23:25] < rxr> for the desktop target I seem to be down to 25 errors only ;-)
[23:25] < rxr> more to be killed this weekend
[23:25] < chaosmaster> thats not the problem, as I send patches, as soon as i can fix a package - and then a whole bunch of them :)
[23:26] < rxr> yeah ...
[23:26] < tcr> chaosmaster: What must be migrated?
[23:27] < rxr> chaosmaster: would be good to use my svn tree - it is more up to date (as cliff is currently too busy)
[23:27] < chaosmaster> but, I'm willing to do the work no one cares about - webpage and docs :) and testing
[23:27] < chaosmaster> how hard is it to install svn as I don't want to do much around svn
[23:28] < chaosmaster> do you have an cvs gw?
[23:28] < rxr> no gateway - but subversion (client only) is a tar xvfI ; ./configure ; make ; make install
[23:28] < chaosmaster> tcr: its still the page design
[23:29] < rxr> or do a Build-Pkg subversion (within a consistent ROCK build) and you'll get a server-able subversion
[23:29] < chaosmaster> :) I love ROCK :)
[23:29] < rxr> chaosmaster: I care about docu and homepage - this is why I also reworked the whole dRock page ...
[23:29] < rxr> chaosmaster: have you taken a look - I did more rework today on the dRock page
[23:30] < chaosmaster> rxr: I'm not uptodate today ....
[23:30] < chaosmaster> but most changes in cms are made by me
[23:30] < rxr> but for my content on www.rocklinux.org I would prefer my current non-cms way since I can spell-check the pages and do advanced editing in my favourite editor ...
[23:30] < tcr> chaosmaster: So I convinced you that the design isn't perfect?
[23:30]   rxr away su later
[23:30] < tcr> chaosmaster: You talked before more about content rather than design
[23:30] < chaosmaster> your spell is always right :)
[23:31] < chaosmaster> design is secondary, but structure is very important!
[23:31] < chaosmaster> its still hard to navigate and to find anything on rocks pages
[23:32] < chaosmaster> its not the standard way: change "obtain a copy" to downloads or software and so on ...
[23:32] < tcr> Yup
[23:33] < chaosmaster> ups, sorry - its there :)
[23:34] < tcr> I know a guy who's a very good hobby webdesigner. Though it's quite a time ago I've seen him the last time...
[23:34] < chaosmaster> ... but: I think a static box above would be better than everytime changing options in the menu. keep the main topics always on the side and ADD specialized topics below to navigate
[23:35] < chaosmaster> tcr: try to contact him, pls
[23:36] < tcr> Yeah I'll...
[23:37] < n00kie> hmm
[23:37] < n00kie> dunno == don't know ?
[23:37] < chaosmaster> ??
[23:37] < n00kie> what means dunno ?
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[23:38] < tcr> n00kie: Yop
[23:38] < chaosmaster> AFAIK
[23:38] < n00kie> ah, ty
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[23:38] < chaosmaster> hello aszlig
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[23:40] < tcr> LOL, Harald Schmidt is great today
[23:40] < chaosmaster> rxr: whats about more subpages for the 2.0.0.html? there is still to much on there: history, install, bugs, ...
[23:40] < chaosmaster> tcr, my tv is dead for months now ....
[23:43] < tcr> chaosmaster: You're missing something!
[23:44] < chaosmaster> tcr: where is the livestream?
[23:46] < tcr> of harald schmidt?!
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[23:47] < n00kie> when i dd if=/dev/null /dev/hdb make
[23:47] < n00kie> how would it look like on devfs?
[23:47] < chaosmaster> n00kie: not g00d! ;)
[23:47] < n00kie> /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd or /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd
[23:47] < n00kie> ?
[23:47] < n00kie> fdisk destroyed my hdd
[23:47] < chaosmaster> I mean dd on your hdd
[23:48] < n00kie> hmm ?
[23:48] < chaosmaster> btw: if=/dev/zero is better I think
[23:48] < n00kie> alright
[23:48] < n00kie> wish me luck man
[23:49] < chaosmaster> what is hdb? a hdd or cdrom?
[23:49] < n00kie> hdd
[23:49] < n00kie> destroyed hdd from evil fdisk
[23:49] < chaosmaster> so what is  /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd good for?
[23:50] < n00kie> there is no "disk"
[23:50] < n00kie> just cd
[23:50] < n00kie> mmm
[23:50] < n00kie> wait
[23:50] < n00kie>            FATALER FEHLER: Konnte nicht auf die Festplatte zugreifen
[23:50] < n00kie>                     Eine Taste drücken, um cfdisk zu beenden
[23:50] < n00kie> Fatal Error:
[23:50] < n00kie> Cannot get access to hdd
[23:51]   chaosmaster has just eat a pkg of cheese, 1 Fladenbrot and 1 tomato
[23:51] < n00kie> press any key to close cfdisk
[23:51] < n00kie> What should I do?
[23:51] < chaosmaster> n00kie: I dont use cfdisk ... why not the hard way and just fdisk?
[23:51] < chaosmaster> so do you have any /dev/discs/* ?
[23:52] < chaosmaster> what does /proc/partitions say?
[23:54] < n00kie> mom
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[23:54] < n00kie> [23:54:08][root@n0nsense][/home/n00kie]> cat /proc/partitions
[23:54] < n00kie> major minor  #blocks  name
[23:54] < n00kie>    3     0   80043264 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
[23:54] < n00kie>    3     1    3068383 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
[23:54] < n00kie>    3     2          1 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2
[23:54] < n00kie>    3     5   35840983 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part5
[23:54] < n00kie>    3     6    9767488 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
[23:54] < n00kie>    3     7     248976 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part7
[23:55] < n00kie>    3     8    7815591 ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part8
[23:55] < n00kie>    3    64    9965592 ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc
[23:55] < n00kie> ide/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/disc is the destroyed disk
[23:55] < n00kie> From FDISK
[23:55] < chaosmaster> what do you mean by destroyed? crashed parttable?
[23:56] < n00kie> everything
[23:56] < n00kie> can't create new partitions
[23:56] < n00kie> can't get access
[23:56] < n00kie> to the hdd
[23:56] < n00kie> everything destroyed
[23:56] < n00kie> FROM DISK
[23:56] < n00kie> Fdisk
[23:57] < chaosmaster> that doesnt look like a fdisk problem, but a real crash
[23:57] < n00kie> yes
[23:57] < n00kie> From FDSISK
[23:57] < n00kie> FDisk
[23:57] < n00kie> The damn program destroyed my hdd
[23:57] < n00kie> I hate this program
[23:57] < chaosmaster> thats not possible
[23:57] < n00kie> waah
[23:57] < n00kie> my poor hdd :-(
[23:58] < chaosmaster> there is a "IBM hdd test tool" out there - maybe you can check the disk?
[23:58] < n00kie> for linux?
[23:58] < chaosmaster> in my repository in rock is a tool called gpart, which can bring partitions "back"
[23:58] < chaosmaster> its a boot floppy image
[23:59] < n00kie> i don't have floppy :)
[23:59] < chaosmaster> thats a problem :)
[23:59] < n00kie> fuck fdisk
[23:59] < n00kie> sorry
[23:59] < n00kie> but fuck fdisk
[23:59] < n00kie> :-(
[23:59] < n00kie> wraahh
[23:59] < n00kie> just bad
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Sat May 10 00:00:03 2003