-!- Irrsi Log opened Sat Aug 23 00:00:05 2003
-!- Irrsi Day changed Sat Aug 23 2003
[00:00] < daja77> no wait for 2.4.21 i took it from cvs
[00:04] < daja77> well i feel more comfortable providing these patches
[00:05] < daja77> the package needs some tweaks with each kernel release anyway
[00:05] < daja77> guess rt target will be borken for a week or so, when kernel package is update
[00:05] < daja77> d
[00:10] < daja77> oh deary me, have to setup a printer tomorrow, see if I find out some of the cups crap
[00:12] < Mike1> AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:12] < daja77> Mike1: ?
[00:13] < Mike1> had to let some stress go
[00:13] < Mike1> :)
[00:13] < daja77> on my ears, you bastard
[00:13] < christ|an> mike let it out i'm here :)
[00:13] < Mike1> great so i can use christ|an..
[00:13] < daja77> hehe
[00:14] Mike1 grabs christ|an and hits daja77's head
[00:14] < daja77> ouch
[00:14] < christ|an> lol
[00:14] < Mike1> daja77: now ur ears don't hurt
[00:14] < christ|an> yeah i'm useful
[00:14] < Mike1> daja77: no need to thank me
[00:14] < daja77> i need a new head!
[00:15] < christ|an> take mine :)
[00:15] < daja77> ahem no thx ;-)
[00:15] < Mike1> daja77: see he is offering "it" to you
[00:15] < daja77> I prefer taking Mike1's cos with a latino head, the girls like me better
[00:16] < Mike1> hahahaha
[00:16] < Mike1> you aint getting my head :)
[00:17] < daja77> ok then you can keep the rest :P
[00:18] < Mike1> :P
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[00:18] < Mike1> daja77: how did you go with the rt patches?
[00:19] < daja77> what do you mean?
[00:19] < jose> ehlo guys!
[00:19] < Mike1> greetings jose
[00:19] < jose> same
[00:19] < Mike1> daja77: you said you had sent over some patches to the rt list
[00:19] < daja77> yepp i did
[00:19] < Mike1> so did they get applied?
[00:20] < daja77> nope, rxr has some questions
[00:20] < Mike1> daja77: ah i see
[00:20] < daja77> which is quite ok for me
[00:20] < Mike1> btw i need someone with a rock linux package repository willing to take over my packages
[00:21] < daja77> all of them?!
[00:21] < Mike1> yes...
[00:21] < daja77> O_o why
[00:21] < Mike1> i am no longer maintaining them
[00:36] < daja77> rxr: well let's discuss tomorrow, i am sleepy
[00:36] < daja77> now
[00:41] < n00kie> Hi :)
[00:41] < daja77> hi n00kie
[00:41] < n00kie> hola daja77, christ|an :)
[00:41] < SMP> Mike1: I can take gnucash
[00:41] < SMP> want to make it work anyway
[00:41] < Mike1> SMP: please submit a patch moving it to your repos
[00:42] < Mike1> i will ack to it once it is on the list
[00:42] < SMP> ok
[00:52] < Mike1> SMP: i've sent my good bye mail to the rock mailing list, asked rxr on it to move gnucash to you.
[00:55] < rxr> SMP: no patches for moves ...
[00:55] < SMP> of course not ;)
[00:55] < rxr> I can move it now and you send a modification patch ...
[00:56] < SMP> yes
[00:56] < Mike1> rxr: thanks.
[00:56] < rxr> Mike1: why do you give away your packages ?
[00:57] < Mike1> rxr: read my mail to the mailing list
[00:57] < rxr> gruempf
[00:57] < Mike1> ?
[00:57] < rxr> Mike1: none there yet ...
[00:57] < Mike1> rxr: give it a moment
[00:58] SMP has it
[00:58] < Mike1> i sent it like 2 or 3 mins ago
[00:58] daja77 just received it
[00:59] < rxr> Mike1: oh - my. Mike1 do you really need to leave *sniff* ?!?
[00:59] < Mike1> see rxr, you should get it anymoment.. then everything will be clear to you.
[00:59] < Mike1> *sniff*?
[01:01] < christ|an> Mike1: you leave rocklinux? :(((((((((((
[01:02] < christ|an> dont do it! :(
[01:03] daja77 now off to bed
[01:03] < christ|an> n8 daja
[01:03] < daja77> n8
[01:09] < n00kie> sleep well daja77
[01:16] < rxr> Mike1: I had the mail on my last post ... - sad anyway ...
[01:18] < Mike1> rxr: well i will be easy to replace don't worry.
[01:18] < christ|an> dont say this mike
[01:18] < Mike1> rxr: i will take a year to learn welsh and get a MBA, then i might consider to come back
[01:18] christ|an slaps Mike1 with n00kie
[01:18] < christ|an> welsh?
[01:18] < rxr> Mike1: Will you also stop to use ROCK? And also not just the usual some minutes ROCK everyday?
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[01:19] < dennis> moin
[01:20] < Mike1> yes i will stop using rock at least for a midterm..
[01:20] < rxr> why? Can't it be used at LinuxLab? Or what are you doing now?
[01:20] < Freak> mike is ac in disguise
[01:20] < Mike1> rxr: i need to finish some personal projects i have and i want to improve my skills and knwoledge.. and get involved in other key projects i have been hanging out for sometime
[01:21] < christ|an> gnucms? :)
[01:21] < rxr> you do not want to get into more details about this?
[01:21] < Mike1> rxr: linuxlabs uses debian.. my work for linuxlabs is contract work, i have my own ompany now,
[01:21] < Mike1> rxr: we can discuss in a query .. if its ok with you
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[01:25] < rxr> owl__: still awake ?
[01:29] < n00kie> good night :)
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[01:36] < Patrick_K> #
[01:39] < christ|an> night rock community - today was a bad day because of mike's announcement :(
[01:39] < christ|an> n8
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[01:45] < rxr> yet another bug report send to dev@subversion ...
[02:00] < Mike1> bye..
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[02:01] < Patrick_K> gn8
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[02:23] < rxr> so SPARC page migrated to Typo3 ...
[02:35] < rxr> fixed source trees page ...
[02:41] < rxr> so - drock page started in Typo3 ...
[02:43] < rxr> so enought typo3 for tonight ...
[02:59] SMP crying
[02:59] < SMP> seems like the db185 API changed from bdb3.3 to bdb4.1
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[03:02] < rxr> hm
[03:18] < rxr> 2.6.0-test4 out
[03:22] < SMP> *fetch*
[03:25] < rxr> update .desc
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[03:40] < rxr> SMP: still arround ?
[03:43] < SMP> yep
[03:47] < SMP> brb, reboot into -test4
[03:50] < rxr> mom
[03:50] < rxr> what do you think - should the iptables stuff in / or in /usr ?
[03:51] rxr notes never to tell SMP about a new kernel if a question is queued for him ...
[03:51] < rxr> hm - the ROCK Linux kconfig adaptions needs to be rediffed again ... :-(
[04:02] < rxr> ok - me off to bed ..
[04:11] < SMP> back from -test3
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[07:30] < SMP> starlord: morning
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[07:39] < starlord> smp:morning
[07:40] < SMP> starlord: your Emerge-Pkg bug - when did you decide that Emerge-Pkg does not have that feature at the moment?
[07:42] < starlord> smp:it looked at script,and on my opinion it only checks depencies of kdebase31 and not the depencies that kdebase31 depends on like qt,like the example sayed,i'm not good at scripting so i might be wrong,it it does that,i'll change it back to bug,does it?
[07:42] < starlord> it=i
[07:44] < starlord> crap,too early,let me exlain it more
[07:44] < SMP> well, scripts/deb_db.txt does have recursive dependencies
[07:46] < SMP> but for kdebase31 it has qt31 and libmng for qt31 but not libmng for kdebase
[07:46] < SMP> that's a bug - but not in Emerge-Pkg
[07:47] < starlord> yep,that's why it fails,hmm,what scripts bug is that? create-depdb?
[07:52] < starlord> do you know why linux24/26-header builds fail in Emerger-Pkg it doesnt find the package because it dosnt download it and fails,are those linux24 and linux26 somekind of special packages that cannot be build in automatically,that makes sense,allmost everyone want to modify config in their kernel
[07:54] < SMP> no idea
[07:55] < SMP> can you make #121 Bug/High and mention the missing packages in deb_db.txt ?
[07:57] < starlord> yep,just modified,is it little clearier?
[07:58] < starlord> https://rocklinux.net/flyspray/index.php?do=details&id=121
[08:01] < SMP> good
[08:49] < starlord> wtf,glibc23 fails because of too old kernel headers
[09:54] < daja77> lol https://quadbass.whosme.de/stuff/enslaved_by_winxp.jpg
[09:59] < daja77> *yawn* /me back to bed
[10:23] < daja77> re
[10:44] daja77 waiting for kasc repo to finish ...
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[11:15] < christ|an> good morning to everybody :)
[11:18] < daja77> huhu
[11:40] < rxr> re && moin *
[11:40] < daja77> moin rxr
[11:47] < daja77> rxr: how are you today
[11:48] < rxr> well - hm sleepy ...
[11:49] < daja77> hehe guessed that
[11:51] < daja77> 908 builds total, 873 completed fine, 20 with errors.
[11:51] < daja77> -1 due kapitalist
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[12:06] daja77 off for breakfast
[12:09] < uppo> hi
[12:09] < rxr> hi uppo
[12:10] rxr for breakfast, too ...
[12:10] < uppo> I am trying to install 2.0.0-camp on a new machine
[12:10] < uppo> but I have a problem with boot parameters
[12:10] < uppo> I cannot find a good value for root
[12:11] < uppo> I tried: linux root=/dev/rd/0
[12:11] < uppo> hi rxr
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[14:52] < daja77> wow 20 errors in total in generic build
[14:53] < rxr> ;-)
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[14:53] < LocalHero> Hi all
[14:53] < rxr> and a new PowerPC optimisation selection in svn:HEAD
[14:53] < rxr> hi LocalHero
[14:53] < daja77> -1 if you don't count kapitalist ;-)
[14:53] < daja77> hi LocalHero
[14:54] < rxr> daja77: yes - kapitalist is svn rm'ed in HEAD ...
[14:54] < daja77> so 19 errors in total
[14:54] < daja77> ok now building bootdisk and creating new images
[14:55] < rxr> ;-)
[14:55] < LocalHero> Hmm, oki everybody, what do you need to know mere about an iso then this titel,creator,opti,arch,creatoremail,description,isofiles,md5s,target
[14:55] < daja77> i found a victim on which computer i can test them
[14:55] < LocalHero> rxr, im currently building the site now :)
[14:56] < daja77> headachelevel *ggg*
[14:56] < rxr> LocalHero: nice
[14:57] < LocalHero> rxr, i think it will take the day to do it though :)
[14:57] daja77 notes that his builddir is still called beta5
[14:58] < daja77> .oO svn up shows many updates
[15:05] < daja77> rxr: you have some time?
[15:06] < esden> hi all
[15:06] < christ|an> hi esden
[15:06] < daja77> huhu esden
[15:08] esden falling asleep >_<
[15:08] < daja77> ah you too
[15:08] daja77 making plans for multimedia cdrom target ...
[15:12] < daja77> omg is the cups package borken *sigh* ... /me checking >_<
[15:15] < esden> very sad day today :-(
[15:15] < daja77> why
[15:15] < daja77> wow it printed a test page
[15:15] < esden> because Mike left ROCK
[15:16] < daja77> hmm /me remembered that as yesterday, but it was actually today
[15:18] < esden> rxr: ping
[15:18] < snyke> hi esden
[15:18] < esden> hi snyke
[15:18] < rxr> esden: pong
[15:18] < daja77> funny he said to me nobody will miss him ...
[15:19] < esden> rxr: I would not do anything in parse-config-9 of dietlibc ... you will get a _VERY_ huge patch to it in the next days ...
[15:19] < esden> daja77: sure people are missing him ...
[15:20] daja77 is one of them
[15:20] < esden> he was with us for a long time
[15:20] < esden> rxr: now I have to merge your changes with mine ... >_<
[15:23] < rxr> esden: more tiny chunks are _always_ more useful. Do you know what a big load it is to verify stuff like the bootdisk stil works correct?
[15:23] < rxr> btw: the linux packages do build correctly in a dietlibc only target ?
[15:23] < esden> rxr: I have tested the bootdisc ... there is no difference on that
[15:23] < rxr> and btw. it is better that changes get merged together then completely lost ...
[15:24] < esden> rxr: they will when I got perl working under dietlibc
[15:24] < esden> rxr: hmm ... ok ... so I merge it
[15:25] < esden> rxr: it is impossible to do little steps in this situation ... I changed the behaviour beyond the stage 1 ...
[15:25] < esden> it has no influence on bootdisc target because it is using dietlibc only in stage 1
[15:25] < esden> and there has nothing changed
[15:26] < esden> ok ... I have to leave back for Ingolstadt now ... my parents will be back home in two hours or so ...
[15:26] < esden> and by then I should be there >_<
[15:26] < esden> cu guys
[15:26] < snyke> cu
[15:30] < daja77> cu esden
[15:32] < daja77> hmm guess i have to create some more packages ...
[15:33] < daja77> how can i "emerge" mkpkg into my old system?
[15:33] < LocalHero> Hmm, im doing a filesystem scan, what else do i need to check then lines starting with / and . .. so that people are traped into a dir?
[15:35] < LocalHero> ahh, maybe i could use find instead. Forget the above :)
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[15:49] < rxr> those kernel bastards ...
[15:50] rxr just fixing kdemultimedia ...
[15:53] daja77 just find that rock lacking some nice cups frontends, will fix that later this weekend
[15:55] < rxr> cool - kde32 will include KHTML: JavaScript debugger
[15:55] < rxr> ;-)
[15:56] < daja77> hehe
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[16:13] < daja77> *yawn*
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[16:14] < rxr> daja77: if you have free CPU cycles / time you could test if my latest fix really fixes kdemultimedia ...
[16:15] < daja77> guess svn up would disturb bootdisk build
[16:15] < daja77> oh no wait
[16:16] < daja77> rev 1158, right?
[16:16] < rxr> yes
[16:17] daja77 Build-Pkg
[16:17] < daja77> trying
[16:19] daja77 wants to talk to later about multimedia target stuff
[16:20] daja77 now forced to pay attention to his family, cu later
[16:21] < daja77> talk to you, damn typos
[16:22] < rxr> daja77: cu
[16:22] < starlord> hmm,someone explain why kernel has been split to kernel24 kernel24-src and kernel24-headers?
[16:23] < starlord> and do i use Build-Pkg for this or the "normal" way to install a new one
[16:35] < rxr> starlord: yes - just use Build-Pkg
[16:35] < rxr> it is split becuase:
[16:35] < rxr> the linux-header in /usr/include/{asm,linux}
[16:35] < rxr> should be the one the glibc is build with and normally not changed (that often)
[16:36] < rxr> for end-user updates you usually only need the binary files - those are in linux$treever
[16:36] < rxr> and for the rare (? ;-) cases you need the full source for /usr/src you go with linux$treever-src ...
[16:36] < rxr> starlord: is there a problem with this ?
[16:40] < starlord> rxr:just curious why it was splitted,but that makes sense
[16:41] < starlord> btw.there's no dri package?
[16:42] < rxr> yes - there is
[16:42] < starlord> hmm,where? i already installed from binary(i guess dri.sf.net only distributes binary and cvs)
[16:43] < rxr> package/clifford/linux-drm/
[16:43] < rxr> but it need impovements - since it does not work on PowerPC :-(
[16:43] < rxr> I already spent a night hacking DRI/DRM stuff - but still no OpenGL on this iBook :-(((
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[16:44] < starlord> heh,i just got my ati working,but i think ati's own drives might perform better,but they have only rpm's
[16:51] < rxr> starlord: some days ago I asked you what kind of ditribution you are creating, or if you are converting some other dist to be a ROCK Linux target ... - Had you already answered?
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[16:53] < starlord> rxr:so when i make Build-Pkg linux26 how do i modify .config? yes i anwered,i used beta6-minimal and builded from there,but i decided to use beta6-drock,that time i didnt have extra bandwidth to download everything
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[17:05] < rxr> starlord: you can modify the kernel config in the GUI ./scripts/Config ...
[17:05] < rxr> (in the expert options)
[17:05] < rxr> starlord: From you qestions and answer I had the feeling that you buidl some GNU/Step (or so) only distribution =
[17:05] < rxr> s/=/?/
[17:06] < christ|an> rxr you are so stupid!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111 s/stupid/cool/ :)
[17:06] < starlord> :)
[17:07] < starlord> rxr:naah,i now had standard desktop target installed
[17:07] < starlord> had=have
[17:13] < rxr> so - linux26 updated in HEAD
[17:17] starlord is away....
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[17:36] < holyolli> moin
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[18:31] < owl__> moin
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[19:30] < barg> hi, i'm new to rocklinux, but i like it more and more :-). can anyone help me with connecting to another machine by serial port? i wanna have the console from $a on $b. so what do i have to add in my /etc/inittab on $b?
[19:49] < starlord> barg:i havent really done this serial thingie,but something like this 6:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty 38400 ttyS1
[19:50] starlord is away: I'm busy
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[20:08] < barg> hmm, that doesn't work, :-(
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[20:42] < tcr> moin all
[20:46] < christ|an> hi tcr
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[20:48] < christ|an> hi strong
[20:48] < Strog> hello
[20:48] < christ|an> how are you?
[20:49] < Strog> I'm doing pretty good
[20:49] < christ|an> thats nice :)
[20:49] < Strog> how are you doing?
[20:49] < christ|an> oh well thanks :)
[20:51] < Strog> I thought maybe you were having a bad time after that rant about OS2
[20:51] < Strog> :-P
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[20:52] < Strog> Hey, I was being nice
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[20:53] < christ|an> re
[20:53] < christ|an> lol
[20:53] < Strog> wb
[20:53] < christ|an> sorry but i hate os/2 :)
[20:53] < christ|an> it is one of the worst thing in the world
[20:54] < Strog> I haven't installed it in years. I was in that channel because someone I know was there and they have been banned from their regualar channel
[20:54] < Strog> I don't think it's that bad. There's some things it does well
[20:54] < christ|an> no no :)
[20:55] < christ|an> its really bad, slow and so on
[20:55] < christ|an> baaa
[20:55] < Strog> We used it where I worked to talk between a Solaris phone switch and the AS/400
[20:55] < Strog> It does that job very well
[20:55] < christ|an> we use it still
[20:55] < christ|an> and its bullshiot
[20:55] < Strog> and other communications jobs mostly. Desktop is mediocre
[20:56] < Strog> Seems you were just venting earlier
[20:57] < Strog> I didn't take it personally. :)
[20:57] < christ|an> kk :)
[20:58] < christ|an> it was a little "revolution" :)
[20:58] Strog is a big *nix fan anyway
[20:58] < christ|an> brave stong :)
[20:58] < Strog> how so?
[20:58] < Strog> heh
[20:59] < christ|an> of course :>
[20:59] < Strog> I could have said BSD but I'm not trying to start anything. lol
[20:59] < christ|an> lol
[20:59] < christ|an> FUCK BSD :) no no i stop that :)
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[21:00] < christ|an> hi starlord
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[21:03] < starlord> hmmm
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[21:48] < rxr> cd
[21:48] < rxr> re
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[22:35] < d3mian> hi
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[22:39] < rxr> shit damn find ...
[22:50] < rxr> puh - long live brower chaches ...
[22:51] < esden> hi praenti ;)
[22:51] < esden> hi all sbtw ;)
[22:51] < praenti> hi esden
[22:52] < rxr> hi praenti esden ...
[22:52] < praenti> thats somehow strange. esden knows when i'm here...
[22:52] < esden> hehe ... that is telepathy ;)
[22:53] < praenti> could be...
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[22:55] < schasi> uh... hi
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[23:25] < LocalHero> Hi all
[23:25] < rxr> hi LocalHero
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[23:25] < holyolli> moin
[23:25] < LocalHero> rxr, hi, whazzup?
[23:26] < rxr> LocalHero: nothing - special - just developing ....
[23:26] < holyolli> .oO(and havin' a bud... ;-) hi rxr,localhero
[23:27] < rxr> hi holyolli
[23:27] < LocalHero> rxr, oki, i think the new siteengine is begining to feel right ;),, Lots of directory scanning and things :).. It would be nice if you could write some .info files and sync over. You dont need to write every one but maybe for the two l8est so i have something to test on :)
[23:27] < LocalHero> holyolli, hi :)
[23:27] < rxr> LocalHero: ok
[23:28] < LocalHero> rxr, well now i have to go to bed. Cya all :)
[23:28] < esden> ok I am once more off
[23:28] < holyolli> god natt LocalHero
[23:28] < esden> cu
[23:29] < holyolli> hi and cu esden
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[23:29] < holyolli> esden: btw. my server is now back online...you can put the link on the site
[23:30] < praenti> ok. i'm also off now. cu
[23:30] < holyolli> cu praenti
[23:31] < praenti> holyolli: btw. esden has read your line. can you write him a mail?
[23:31] < holyolli> praenti: jepp, i will. thx & greetz
[23:40] < tcr> hey holyolli
[23:40] < tcr> how's things?
[23:42] < daja77> re
[23:43] rxr doing a new reference build
[23:43] < rxr> daja77: kdemultimeda builds now (you have to rebuild linux24-header again ... )
[23:43] < rxr> hi tcr
[23:43] < holyolli> hi tcr
[23:44] < holyolli> tcr: nice...thx..back home and that's really nice ;-)
[23:44] < daja77> rxr: ah ok :)
[23:45] < daja77> rxr: btw bootdisk is ready should I just make cds or add some recent changes
[23:46] < rxr> daja77: hm - whatever you like. If you do a svn up you'll get the linux26, gnupg, ... updates, it is up to you to decide whether you want to rebuild them
[23:46] < rxr> daja77: it should be ok to have a 2.0.0-dev-meeting-generic without those last minute changes ...
[23:47] < rxr> btw - new regression tester results are also already online ...
[23:47] < daja77> well i could upload the images on monday
[23:47] < rxr> and I'll commit a gimp14 update once the build on this iBook finished ....
[23:48] < rxr> after the gimp14 update (and a test installation on x86) I'll tag this 2.0.0-camp
[23:48] < daja77> camp?!
[23:49] < tcr> holyolli: for how long?
[23:49] < daja77> installation testing, sounds nice
[23:49] daja77 grinning evilly at his laptop
[23:50] < rxr> daja77: s/camp/dev-meeting/ - sorry
[23:50] < daja77> okis
[23:50] < holyolli> tcr: for a longer time - i don
[23:51] < daja77> hi tcr, holyolli
[23:51] < holyolli> t need to go to the u.s. anymore during my training
[23:51] < holyolli> hi daja77
[23:52] < tcr> hi rxr, daja77
[23:52] < daja77> rxr: any wishes regarding rt target
[23:59] daja77 just reading a horror story from a mailinglist admin ...
[23:59] < rxr> daja77: yes this big fat patch should be downloaded ;-)!
-!- Irrsi Log closed Sun Aug 24 00:00:07 2003