-!- Irrsi  Log opened Fri Oct 03 00:00:40 2003
-!- Irrsi  Day changed Fri Oct 03 2003
[00:00] < esden> Jeszcze Polska nie zginela puki my zyjemy, co nam obca przemoc wziela sila odbiezemy. Marsz marsz dombrowski z ziemi Wloskiej do Polski. Za twoim przewodem zlaczym sie z narodem.
[00:00] < Freak> I'm satisfied as long as you guys believe me when I say what I just said :) I wish I could myself.... but well I'm getting to sound a bit too owly recently so I better stop talking full stop.
[00:01] < daja77> hehe good :)
[00:01] < esden> hehe ... we should introduce the owl scala?
[00:02] < daja77> hehe
[00:03] < Freak> good one :)
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[00:08] < A-Tui> hola all
[00:08] < tcr> Freak, https://www.bundestag.de/dasparlament/2002/17/panorama/036.html
[00:09] < tcr> Freak, ganz runtterscrollen, zweitletzer absatz
[00:09]   daja77 goes back to bed again
[00:10] < tcr> Soviel dazu.
[00:15] < Freak> tcr: https://www.bund.de/Hintergrund/Protokoll/Protokoll-und-staatliche-Repraesentation/Deutsche-Symbole/Nationalhymne/Briefwechsel-zur-Nationalhymne-1991-.5560.htm
[00:17] < Freak> https://www.bund.de/Hintergrund/Protokoll/Protokoll-und-staatliche-Repraesentation/Deutsche-Symbole/Nationalhymne-.5502.htm
[00:17] < Freak> "Nach der Wiedervereinigung Deutschlands erklärten Bundespräsident Dr. Richard von Weizsäcker und Bundeskanzler Dr. Helmut Kohl  in einem Briefwechsel vom August 1991 die dritte Strophe des Deutschlandlieds zur Nationalhymne."
[00:18] < Freak> that clearly states that you're not wrong.
[00:19] < Freak> considering the time when the DDR still existed.
[00:19] < Freak> you live in the past, boy
[00:19] < tcr> Blah
[00:19] < Freak> hehehe
[00:19] < tcr> Werd erstmal h?flicher bevor du nochmal mit mir diskutieren willst. Danke
[00:20] < Freak> oh comeon I was kidding
[00:22] < tcr> Die url die ich dir oben exemplarisch gegeben hatte gibt mir recht
[00:22] < Freak> gut dass wir bloß eine meinung brauchen um recht zu haben. das nennt man objektivität.
[00:22] < tcr> Ich hat weitere texte gefunden wo das genauso drin steht
[00:23] < tcr> Les mal was ich gesagt habt
[00:23] < Freak> ja und deine staatlichen quellen haben natürlich mehr recht als meine, japp.
[00:23] < tcr> Ich hab nicht gesagt ich habe recht
[00:23] < tcr> und objektivit?t existiert sowieso nicht
[00:23] < Freak> darf ich zitieren: "<tcr> I'm still sure that I'm right"
[00:23] < Freak> das ist subjektiv.
[00:24] < Freak> du bist ein schlechter verlierer
[00:24] < tcr> Nein, du blickst aber nicht den kontext
[00:24] < Freak> erst den verlezten mimen weil ich nen spaß gemacht hab, jetzt ausweichen.. naja whatever.
[00:24] < Freak> is ok
[00:24] < tcr> ich: " Die url die ich dir oben exemplarisch gegeben hatte gibt mir recht"
[00:25] < tcr> du als antwort: "gut dass wir blo eine meinung brauchen um recht zu haben."
[00:25] < tcr> ich als antwort darauf: "Ich hab [in dem obigen satz] nicht gesagt ich habe recht"
[00:25] < Freak> japp. ich hab auch für alle denkfehler ne erklärung :)
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[00:27] < tcr> wie ist das jetzt gemeint?!
[00:27] < Freak> wie ich schon sagte: imho weichst du aus.
[00:28] < tcr> Wo?
[00:29] < Freak> also verarschen kann ich mich auch selber. ende.
[00:29] < tcr> Ahja
[00:30] < tcr> Nun weichst _du_ unwiederlegbar aus
[00:30] < tcr> Ich hab eigentlich nur versucht klarzumachen, dass man nicht so einfach sagen dass es so oder so ist
[00:33] < tcr> Ich finds ehrlich schei?e so zu reagieren. Wir benutzen hier ein Medium das sogar weniger fehler-tolerant ist als Sprache an sich. Da treten zwangl?ufig Kommunikationsprobleme auf, aber bei Versuchen die wettzumachen sich konsequent ignorant zu verhalten ist nicht grad produktiv
[00:33] < Freak> don't take it personal.
[00:34] < tcr> Du solltest es nicht pers?nlich nehmen, weil das nun konstruktive kritik an dir sein soll
[00:35] < Freak> ich kann es alles widerlegen, sagte aber bereits, dass ich mich nicht weiter zur diskussion äußern werde. :)
[00:35] < Freak> maybe next year.
[00:35] < tcr> Ok.
[00:35] < Freak> and now let's a) switch back to english for politeness' sake and b) let's forget it
[00:36] < tcr> Ich kann ja auch schlie?lich fliegen ;)
[00:36] < Freak> that's wonderful for you.
[00:37] < tcr> It's just that I'm about to sleep but I won't be able if something stays poorly discussed
[00:37] < A-Tui> hi, scrtips scripts/Check-Deps[1-2] are only for internal use?
[00:37] < Freak> let me explain why I stopped the discussion: I felt you were fleeing from it using techniques I don't appreciate in a discussion.
[00:38] < Freak> this is a subjective impression.
[00:38] < Freak> founded in my experience in discussion.
[00:38] < Freak> on
[00:38] < Freak> whatever.
[00:39] < fake> nabend
[00:39] < Freak> evening fake
[00:39] < tcr> A-Tui, how do you define internal use?
[00:40] < A-Tui> only called when uses Build-Target
[00:40] < A-Tui> i have now about 400 packages broken
[00:41] < A-Tui> most of then can't found some libs (glib12) and other fails at compiling time becouse of references not found in .o files
[00:41] < tcr> A-Tui, grep 'Check-Dep' scripts/* yiels that these scripts aren't executed in any other script
[00:42] < A-Tui> mmmm i generate a .patch via Check-Dep
[00:43] < fake> Freak is annoying ppl again, i see *g*
[00:43] < A-Tui> i'm a little confused how to fix it
[00:43] < fake> A-Tui: did you alter the package selection ?
[00:43] < tcr> Freak, Yeah and I asked where I was doing that according to you opinion. I couldn't see where, so there seemingly was a lack or loss of communication, thus I asked you 'wo?'
[00:43] < A-Tui> yes fake
[00:44] < A-Tui> i put O kde*
[00:44] < fake> A-Tui: you are aware of the fact that compile time dependencies are not enforced?
[00:44] < fake> A-Tui: that is indeed a very nice setting. ;)
[00:44] < tcr> Freak, and I can't see what's so wrong on that question that it made you go out of the discussion...
[00:44] < A-Tui> i think i have seen now :)
[00:45] < A-Tui> fake: the Check-Dep could help me true?
[00:45] < fake> A-Tui: i have no idea what Check-Deps is for - maybe updating the [DEP] sections in .desc-files from the .cache files after a reference build...
[00:45] < fake> (which would be a maintainer-only thing then)
[00:46] < Freak> tcr: we should probably really found a #politics.de channel :)
[00:46] < fake> and rxr isn't here - what a pitty.
[00:46] < fake> Freak: how about #freakchamber ?
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[00:46] < Freak> yea or #fakestomb
[00:46] < A-Tui> fake: i will try it
[00:46] < A-Tui> thanks
[00:47] < tfing> hi
[00:47] < fake> A-Tui: ask rxr what it does, if he doesn't know, delete it ;))
[00:47] < A-Tui> XD
[00:47] < tcr> A-Tui, why don't you redo a build with glib?
[00:47] < fake> Freak: fakestomb... i like that *g*
[00:47] < A-Tui> tcr: i did it
[00:47] < Freak> fake :)
[00:47] < fake> complete rebuild - from scratch?
[00:48] < A-Tui> fake: i understand
[00:48] < A-Tui> i think it will be the best option
[00:48] < fake> if packages depend on glib optionally, but thus optional feature is required for another package... you see what i mean
[00:49] < A-Tui> well glib is now the first package target
[00:49]   tcr wonders why nobody has answered to the cluster thread so far
[00:49] < A-Tui> but fails whit a undefined reference error
[00:50] < tcr> first package target?
[00:50] < tcr> You're doing a rebuild from scratch, right?
[00:51] < tcr> And you're not confusing glib with glibc?
[00:51] < A-Tui> i'm continuing the old build with new package select
[00:51] < A-Tui> glibc it's ok
[00:52] < tcr> Hmm. not sure if that can be done
[00:52] < fake> .oO( would be funny to have packages complaining about undefined references to glibc ;)
[00:52] < fake> a-tui: that's not really the best method...
[00:53] < tcr> A-Tui, btw. what does fail with reference error, glib?
[00:53] < A-Tui> ../glib/.libs/libglib-2.0.so: undefined reference to `__ctype_b'
[00:54] < A-Tui> i think i will lost less time if i start a new build from scratch
[00:54] < tcr> mom
[00:56] < tcr> hm
[00:56] < tcr> A-Tui, well yes just do it and let's see
[00:57] < A-Tui> tcr Cleanup -full is running now
[00:57] < fake> __ctype_b ?
[00:58] < fake> ake@jana:/usr/lib$ grep __ctype_b * | wc
[00:58] < fake>     336    1344   11570
[00:58] < fake> hm
[00:59] < fake> fake@jana:/usr/lib$ grep __ctype_b *.so | wc
[00:59] < fake>     106     424    3557
[00:59] < A-Tui> i ran nm and there are a lot of libs who reference it
[00:59] < fake> that's 106 libraries of 267
[00:59] < fake> so almost nothing would have built if it wasn't there
[01:00] < tcr> Well, just look for it in google and you'll get to some interesting bug reports
[01:00] < tcr> Yes __ctype_b is glibc stuff
[01:01] < tcr> I wonder whether or not it'll disappear when doing a scratch build
[01:04] < A-Tui> well now the new build is running
[01:19]   A-Tui is away: Estoy ocupado
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[01:44]   fake bored
[01:46]   mnemoc fired ;)
[01:46] < mnemoc> thanks to microsoft :(
[01:46] < fake> uh :((
[01:49] < mnemoc> they donate 7000 US$ to the place where i work for makeing crap with MS SharePoint with a selected company, so 'internat development' is finished :'(
[01:49] < mnemoc> they also donate MS sharepoint and lot of related crap
[01:52] < th> mnemoc: so you've been replaced by MS-crap?
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[02:39] < rxr> re
[02:40] < th> hi rxr
[02:40] < rxr> hi
[02:40] < rxr> just a nightly visit - me on the way into the bed. ..
[02:40] < th> ;-)
[02:41] < rxr> th: btw. stuff like nssdb is now fixed in SVN HEAD ...
[02:41] < th> rxr: yea. rev 1582 seems clear
[02:41] < rxr> torrow I'll also be busy (doing some fun stuff) so I think the -rc2 tag will be done on staturday ...
[02:42] < rxr> but I'll do a test installation of the current HEAD tomorrow
[02:42] < th> rxr: i'll  mail you the ErrList if you are itnerested
[02:42] < th> 1910 builds total, 486 completed fine, 6 with errors.
[02:42] < rxr> (where tomorrow is in fact already today ...)
[02:42] < th> generic build
[02:43] < th> nssdb is built quite late
[02:43] < th> so i can't really confirm it ow
[02:43] < th> s/ow/at this time/
[02:43] < th> prio 801
[02:46] < th> 1910 builds total, 493 completed fine, 7 with errors.
[02:46] < th> directfb just failed
[02:46] < th> but this was known
[02:46] < th> isdn4k might be a new failure
[02:49] < rxr> nope isdn is also known to me
[02:49] < rxr> anyway good night
[02:49] < th> ok
[02:49] < rxr> cu
[02:49] < th> yea sleep tight ;)
[02:57] < daja77> re
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[08:28] < netrunner> *yawm*
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[08:37] < scythe_> hi
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[09:16] < Mike1> moin.
[09:17] < scythe_> hi
[09:22] < Lorini> moin
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[09:44] < netrunner> moin Lorini :)
[09:45] < Lorini> hey netrunner :)
[09:45] < netrunner> visitors gone ... at last :)
[09:46] < Lorini> lol
[09:47] < netrunner> blindcoder: maybe that bash/lib stuff is related to the new automagical lib moving?
[09:56] < daja77> moin
[09:57] < Mike1> hi daja77 :)
[10:00] < daja77> moin Mike1, how are you
[10:00] < Mike1> very good, and happy to see you, and you ?
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[10:01] < daja77> <- still sick
[10:01] < Mike1> sick??? whats wrong???
[10:03] < netrunner> daja77: *knuddel*
[10:03]   netrunner throws daja77 high up in the air 3 times
[10:04] < Mike1> yo netty
[10:04] < daja77> :))
[10:04] < Lorini> lol
[10:05]   netrunner bakes a cake for daja77
[10:05]   Mike1 pets daja77
[10:05] < Mike1> hello Andi
[10:05] < Lorini> (vielleicht kann ihm bitte jemand auch sagen, wann ich geburtstag hab..?)
[10:05] < Lorini> huhu mike :)
[10:06] < Lorini> oh, sorry, german..
[10:06] < Mike1> :P
[10:07]   netrunner invites daja77 to the wies'n for a free hendl and a Mass
[10:08] < daja77> oh thx
[10:08] < daja77> until what day they are open?
[10:08] < Mike1> --=[ HAPPY B-DAY DANIEL JAHRE (daja77) ]=--
[10:09] < Mike1> daja77: best of my wishes and regards in this special day.
[10:09] < daja77> thank you :)
[10:09] < Mike1> ;-)
[10:09] < netrunner> daja77: about 2300 each day. but you need to be there around noon to get a table :)
[10:10] < daja77> well i thought of the date ...
[10:10] < netrunner> daja77: this is the last weekend.
[10:16] < netrunner> aah! lbreakout2 failed! what will I do all night!
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[10:22] < daja77> <- can't come today
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[11:11] < Mike1> good day clifford
[11:12] < clifford> hi mike.
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[11:25] < jsaw_> happy birthday daja77
[11:25] < jsaw_> installing a fresh rev1582 (with gnome24) now, hope to be back soon
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[11:55] < netrunner> oh, my p4 build finished: desktop 760 builds total, 734 completed fine, 26 with errors.
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[12:18] < owl> moin
[12:19]   Mike1 hugs owly
[12:19] < Mike1> hello owl :)
[12:19] < owl> moin Miguel :)
[12:19] < Mike1> nice to see you.
[12:19] < owl> nice to see you, too. hbow are you?
[12:20] < Mike1> doing good, still a bit pissed off with my ISP.. those bastards had me down for nearly 10 hours..
[12:20] < Mike1> and how are you sed?
[12:20] < owl> not reall nice from them...
[12:20] < owl> hm. alive. but still not awake. thx.
[12:20] < Mike1> hehe
[12:21] < owl> Mike1: *kick* that's _not_ funny :p
[12:21] < Mike1> do you want some coffee ?
[12:22]   Mike1 is making coffee.
[12:22] < owl> Mike1: nope. thx. but cappuccino or tea would be nice ;) (especially because it's fscking cold outside and raining)
[12:22] < owl> Mike1: enjoy your coffee
[12:22] < Mike1> thank you dear :)
[12:23] < owl> Mike1: you're welcome
[12:23] < owl> hm. guess i will get some breakfast now... brb
[12:25] < Mike1> i shall have brakfast in an hour or 2
[12:33] < th> moin
[12:33] < Mike1> moin Tobias.
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[12:51] < th> "breakfast" sounds like a good idea
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[13:39] < owl> re,pom
[13:39] < owl> remoin
[13:39] < owl> i meant
[13:39] < Mike1> hello owly welcome back
[13:39] < owl> thx ;)
[13:44] < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/debatte/0,1518,268149,00.html
[13:54] < owl> https://www.spiegel.de/politik/debatte/0,1518,267865,00.html << very interesting article about how "democracy" really works in our "beloved" country/and/or/europe... read it and puke
[13:55]   scythe_ is starting to learn german - fast...
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[13:58] < owl> scythe_: sorry... hm. the 2nd documents describes just, that there will be no "choice" done by the european/german people, because they (as politicans say) "don't understand the meaning of the new european consitituon"...
[13:58] < SMP> scythe_: German? ;)
[13:59] < owl> and they fear the "normal people" aka the "folks" because this folk could disagree with this constitution... and so on... so you see - there i no real democracy, but a lot of crap done by our beloved friends the political parties...
[14:00] < Mike1> scythe_: Gut! :)
[14:00]   clifford is still waiting for SMPs feedback on his rocknet proposal.
[14:00] < scythe_> SMP: deutsch (?) ist nicht mein favourite language - it's a bit hard to learn.
[14:00] < owl> hi clifford !
[14:01] < SMP> . o O ( We are Linux of ROCK, you will speak German, Widerstand is zwecklos? )
[14:01] < owl> scythe_: full ack. after 19 years of living and grown up with german i even can't speak/write it correct ... :p
[14:02] < scythe_> owl: tnx for translation, i see this now - it's the same in hungary (im a hungarian...)
[14:03] < owl> scythe_: you're welcome. hm. guess it's everywhere the same... expect in the U.S. where there is a dictatorship (more or less)...
[14:04] < SMP> clifford: you patience is much appreciated - I have a bit of a problem with structuring my thoughts currently. I hope to have everything in order about rocknet today
[14:04]   SMP thought about it before falling asleep
[14:04] < owl> .oO(going to bed and sleeping with hot thoughts about rocknet *lol*)
[14:05] < scythe_> owl: many people here (in this country) thinks that the socialist/communist times were better and *more democratic*, than the "democratic" chaos today...
[14:09] < owl> scythe_: sure it was, imho. and imho the average people would be equal to everyone else and so... and the cleft between poor and richih wouldn't be as large as it is, with socialismn/communismn because of the concepts and so...
[14:12] < scythe_> owl: i think the best form of a state is monarchy with laws - i don't know the proper word - like Switzerland, Denmark and Austria before WW1. Of course not in a medieval form ;-)
[14:14] < esden> good morning everyone
[14:14] < Freak> morning
[14:15] < owl> scythe_: hmmmmmmm. monarchy... i don't agree ;p anarchy, communism/socialismn, humanismn and democratcy - a mix of it would be great imho
[14:15] < owl> hi esdy
[14:16] < scythe_> own: maybe, but will never see - the world shall be globalized by the US - all countries will look like it (sooner or later)
[14:16] < scythe_> hi esden
[14:16] < scythe_> (sorry, owL)
[14:17] < Mike1> god bless you esden
[14:17] < owl> scythe_: hopefully this wouill never happen
[14:18] < scythe_> owl: never no, it just got a slightly chance - see afghanistan, iraq... who'll be next?
[14:19] < owl> hm... syria i guess
[14:21] < scythe_> or maybe iran (this axis of evil stupidity from bush Jr) - N Korea had chance, but US now afraid of their nuclear power...
[14:21] < owl> yeah...
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[14:42] < rolla> re
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[15:33] < fake> *sigh*
[15:33] < fake> morning
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[15:35] < owl> hi fake
[15:35] < scythe_> hi
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[15:37] < snake> hi@all
[15:38] < scythe_> hi
[15:39] < snake> running ./scripts/Create-ISO rock-linux -mkdebug bootdisk minimal doesn't work.but it's described like this in the doc
[15:39] < owl> hi scythe_
[15:40] < owl> aeh. snake
[15:40] < owl> sorry
[15:40] < snake> what's wrong about running the command like this?
[15:40]   scythe_ feels warm - needs an underwear change
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[15:56] < rolla> re fake
[15:57] < rolla> you still fighting apache SSL?
[15:57] < fake> nope, i got it
[15:58] < fake> i wasn't aware that i can'y use name-based virtual hosts for ssl
[15:58] < fake> than i started to think... ;)
[15:58] < fake> chicken-and-egg problem
[15:59] < tfing> fake: you can use a wildcard-certificate
[16:01] < rolla> :)
[16:06] < fake> that's not the problem...
[16:06]   fake has to go
[16:06] < fake> cu later
[16:08] < rolla> bye
[16:09] < th> fake: you can use a non-ssl http virtual host as multiplexer for your https hosts and forward to apropriate ssl ports
[16:10] < rolla> yeah but that sucks
[16:11] < rolla> does anyone here know iptables real well?
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[16:15] < th> rolla: it's quite generic implementable
[16:16] < rolla> true but I guess I am not a fan of it
[16:16] < rolla> I like giving seperate ips to seperate SSL servers
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[16:23] < scythe_> anybody has seen a Build-Target and all of its subprocesses going sleep at building glibc before (looks like ls and tr \n are doing this)?
[16:23] < th> rolla: and you want to give them private IPs and use iptables to redirect?
[16:23]   th guesses.
[16:26]   scythe_ is waiting for a tiny little help...
[16:27] < rolla> th: i am trying to do MASQERADE'ing with iptables
[16:27] < th> rolla: whats your problem?
[16:27] < rolla> what I have that works on one iptables does not work on another
[16:28] < th> you mean on another host?
[16:28] < th> or in another table?
[16:28] < rolla> another host
[16:28] < rolla> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
[16:28] < rolla> that is the line I use
[16:34] < SMP> scythe_: on which architecture? ;)
[16:34] < scythe_> SMP: guess
[16:34] < scythe_> SMP: come on in and take a look
[16:36] < scythe_> SMP: cat /lvm/rock/a - it's a complete ps auxfS
[16:38]   esden is too stupid to find the libegg packet or a packet containing it ...
[16:39] < th> and your sure your output iface is ok?
[16:39] < th> rolla: and your sure your output iface is ok?
[16:39] < rolla> yes
[16:39]   th had two power outages just some seconds ago
[16:40] < th> rolla: do you have a dynamic ip to which you masquerade?
[16:40] < rolla> no
[16:40] < rolla> static
[16:40] < th> so you should not use masquerade
[16:40] < rolla> iptables: Invalid argument
[16:41] < th> you should yous -j SNAT
[16:41] < rolla> th I have 5 static on public internet
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[16:41] < scythe_> SMP: i think the problem is in build-pkg at somewhere line 450
[16:41] < th> s/yous/use/
[16:41] < rolla> and non-routable network
[16:41] < th> rolla: ok. masquerade is for dynamic IP address only
[16:42] < th> rolla: use -j SNAT in POSTROUTING
[16:42] < th> -j SNAT --to extern_ip_to_masq_to
[16:43] < rolla> ?
[16:43] < rolla> I am thinking you are not understanding what I am trying to do
[16:44] < rolla> iptables: Invalid argument
[16:45] < rolla> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to-source 66.136.183.237
[16:46] < SMP> scythe_: 450, yes.
[16:47] < SMP> scythe_: very weird
[16:47] < scythe_> SMP: i've already recompiled tr, tar's problem was solved with that
[16:47] < scythe_> SMP: maybe a custom debian patch was the problem...
[16:49] < rolla> any idea th?
[16:49] < SMP> hmm, the tr seems to be not even necessary at all
[16:49] < scythe_> i didn't figured it out what this line does properly... - im not a big shellscript programmer...
[16:50] < SMP> uses ls in a subshell do expand the possible patch files and store them in a variable
[16:51] < scythe_> and what can be the problem for sleeping?
[16:52] < scythe_> (i can recompile ls, but i dont think it'll solve the issue...)
[16:52] < SMP> the tr is def. not needed - but I doubt it's the problem
[16:53] < SMP> I'd blame bash for messing up subshell handling
[16:54] < SMP> but it works fine when run interactively
[16:56] < scythe_> the same was with tar - worked by hand, didn't work with script.
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[17:00] < rolla> this makes my head hurt
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[17:11] < th> rolla: perhaps you need to load some kernel modules... have nat disabled or something. compare kernels
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[17:17] < owl> hi th
[17:17] < owl> aeh. trekkie3k
[17:17] < trekkie3k> hi owl, *erm* hi everyone :)
[17:25] < esden> argh ... ld segfaulting ... >_<
[17:27] < scythe_> SMP: ls recompiled, problem not solved - it did worth a try
[17:29] < scythe_> SMP: ideas?
[17:30] < SMP> scythe_: please cat /proc/24405/environ > /tmp/24405
[17:30] < scythe_> SMP: better idea, i give u sudo
[17:31] < scythe_> SMP: (don't do anything baaad ;-)
[17:35] < rolla> suck
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[17:37] < jsaw> re
[17:38] < scythe_> hi
[17:40] < jsaw> hi scythe_
[17:41] < scythe_> SMP: what if i just comment the line out for the minimal build, and will do the complete build on an installed rock?
[17:42] < SMP> scythe_: try cleaning your env when running Build-Pkg: env - PATH="$PATH" ./scripts/...
[17:43] < scythe_> wont Build-Pkg create a subshell - and redeclare all of it's env?
[17:44] < SMP> jo ..
[17:45] < scythe_> tried it anyway - nothing to lose - results the same
[18:01] < SMP> $ ssh apollo
[18:01] < SMP> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[18:02] < SMP> hmm :-O
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[18:02] < SMP> ahh
[18:02] < scythe_2> sorry, had some problems
[18:02] < SMP> $ ssh apollo
[18:02] < SMP> ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[18:02] < scythe_2> some system save started
[18:03] < scythe_2> on os390s
[18:03] < SMP> anyay, be back later. cu scythe_
[18:03] < scythe_2> cpu time for apollo went down - reallllly down
[18:03] < scythe_2> ok, cu
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[20:18] < rolla> re
[20:21] < _spectre_> re auch
[20:21] < rolla> was gibt's _spectre_
[20:24] < _spectre_> nich viel, bin hundemüde
[20:25] < rolla> warum?
[20:27] < _spectre_> kA
[20:27] < _spectre_> bin erst um 15h aufgestanden
[20:27] < _spectre_> aber völlig platt
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[21:21] < esden> re hi all
[21:22]   esden watched the "legue of extraordinary gentelmen" very nice film really advisable
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[23:13] < daja77> re
[23:18] < esden> huhu daja77
[23:19] < daja77> huhu esden, how are you?
[23:19] < esden> I am still alive thanks ;)
[23:19] < esden> and how are you?
[23:20] < daja77> still alive, still sick, back from birthday party, pretty tired
[23:20] < esden> had fun?
[23:20] < daja77> yes ...
[23:21] < esden> nice :)
[23:22] < daja77> but for you i been old already :))
[23:22] < esden> o_O
[23:23] < esden> was that your birthday party?
[23:23] < daja77> yep
[23:23] < esden> ohh then congrats ...
[23:23] < esden> sorry I did not know ...
[23:23] < daja77> well don't worry :))
[23:26]   daja77 goin to bed, cu
[23:42] < cytrinox> gn8
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