-!- Irrsi  Log opened Sun Oct 05 00:00:27 2003
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[03:52] -!- Topic for #rocklinux: ROCK Linux approaching 2.0 - join now - https://www.rocklinux.org/rock20.html
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[03:52] [ Aard ] [ daja77 ] [ Freak ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ true ]
[03:52] [ aszlig ] [ esden ] [ jsaw ] [ netrunner] [ SMP ] [ vectrax]
[03:52] -!- Irssi: #rocklinux: Total of 24 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 24 normal]
[03:52] -!- Channel #rocklinux created Mon Aug 4 00:11:35 2003
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[04:02] < fake> *yawn*
[04:02] < fake> uh
[04:02] < fake> 4 am
[04:06] < fake> and the whole #rocklinux is asleep...
[04:06] < fake> what a shame ;)
[04:06] < fake> well almost all of #rocklinux
[04:07] < fake> a small, unimportant individual saves image ;)
[04:07] < fake> the image, even
[04:07] < tfing> o_O
[04:07] < esden> hi fake
[04:07] < fake> *lol* i sure know how to wake you up
[04:07] < esden> I am also awake
[04:08] < fake> *coffeeslurp* what are you two at?
[04:08] < esden> but I drive hannes home now and then drive to munich and get some sleep ;)
[04:08] < fake> greetz to hannes
[04:08] < esden> fake: would you mind to give me also a cup of coffee?
[04:08] < esden> it would be usefull ;)
[04:09] < fake> esden: that's the last one, but i think theres a fresh can in production already *g*
[04:09] < esden> hehe ;)
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[04:09] < esden> I can come by with hannes ...
[04:09] < fake> hi hannes!
[04:09]   fake at holli
[04:09] < esden> ;)
[04:09] < esden> ohh ... ok
[04:09] < hannes> hi fake!
[04:09] < esden> I do not know where that is ;)
[04:09] < fake> playing around with obsd
[04:09] < hannes> ahjo... ;)
[04:09] < esden> ok ... I leave now ... cu
[04:10] < fake> ... no portupgrade :`-(
[04:10] < hannes> uuh, you leave esden?
[04:10] < fake> esden: nye
[04:10] < fake> s,n,b,
[04:10] < fake> .oO(esdeb)
[04:10]   esden is not deb ;)
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[04:10] < fake> s,b,pp, *g*
[04:10] < hannes> dpkg -i esden.deb
[04:10] < hannes> baah...
[04:10] < esden> fake: :P
[04:11] < fake> dpkg-reconfigure esden
[04:11] < esden> apt-get --purge remove esden
[04:12] < esden> [detatch]
[04:12]   fake *waves*
[04:12] < hannes> bye fake...
[04:12] < fake> baba
[04:16] < fake> join #openbsd
[04:16] < fake> narf...
[04:16] < fake> maybe i should sleep sometimes.
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[04:18] < chmodman> hello
[04:18] < fake> hi
[04:20] < chmodman> Anyone know of a good website that indexes files posted on newsgroups?
[04:21]   fake absolute usenet lamer
[04:21] < fake> i guess google/dejanews don't ?
[04:22] < chmodman> I once stumbled on a website thqat did a great job showing what recent files were posted, its much better than google does it... but i cant find the site anyumore
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[04:23] < fake> sorry, i can't help you there -_-
[04:23] < chmodman> np, thx though
[04:28] < chmodman> https://www.newzsearch.com/  this it is :P
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[05:43] < esden_> re hi all
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[06:04] < esden> n8
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[08:52] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
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[12:06] < rxr> re
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[12:57] < rxr> hi trekkie3k
[13:02] < trekkie3k> hi
[13:05] < rxr> jsaw_: are you "on-line"?
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[13:24] < esden> hi all
[13:26] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[13:27] < rxr> hi all
[13:28] < blindcoder> rxr: did ncurses build in stage nine over there?
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[13:28] < tfing> rxr: at complains when there is no atd running
[13:29] < rxr> tfing: ok
[13:30] < rxr> blindcoder: the last time yes - but my last build is already a few days old - I start a new one soon ...
[13:30] < rxr> cu - me away
[13:30] < blindcoder> okay, cu
[13:39] < jsaw_> rxr: here I am
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[14:28] < th> re
[14:34] < SMP> *yawn*
[14:34] < th> moin SMP
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[15:21] < th> rxr: 1583 added rc2 tag. does that mean 1582 became rc2 without change>?
[15:51] < rxr> re
[15:51] < rxr> nope
[15:52] < rxr> this means I want to apply more patches - but I might merge some changes back ...
[15:52] < rxr> jsaw: should I inject the gnome24 packages into HEAD and rm -rf gnome2  ?
[16:01] < th> rxr: so 1583 is not the final rc2?
[16:16] < owl> moin
[16:17] < owl> wuah. this keyboard ist fscking strange
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[17:02] < mnemoc> re all :)
[17:08] < rxr> hi mnemoc
[17:14] < mnemoc> hi rxr
[17:15] < mnemoc> are you building a reference of rc2?
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[18:18] < scythe_> hi
[18:19] < netrunner> ho
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[18:48] < rxr> hi Nebukadneza
[18:48] < Nebukadneza> ohaio
[18:48] < hopelessOwl> hi Nebukadneza
[18:49] < Nebukadneza> hopelessOwl: ah hi ;)
[18:49] < Nebukadneza> and ... what about clampx? *G*
[18:51] < hopelessOwl> hmm... just at "8" or so
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[18:52] < hopelessOwl> but we're continueing now, again. cya
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[19:58] < tcr> moin all
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[20:17] < tcr> Hmm, forrest gump on tv
[21:00] < hopelessOwl> rehi
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[21:10]   hopelessOwl np: terminal choice - collective suicide *sigh*
[21:40] < blindcoder> hi hi and rehi
[21:40] < hopelessOwl> hi blindy
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[21:50] < hopelessOwl> hi dreamind
[21:50] < dreamind> hi hopelessOwl
[21:50] < blindcoder> hi there
[21:57] < dreamind> hi blindcoder
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[21:58] < zenlunatic> what package/ports system does rock use?
[21:58] < hopelessOwl> hi zenlunatic
[21:58] < zenlunatic> Hello.
[21:59] < zenlunatic> How does rock differ from ports in freebsd?
[21:59] < blindcoder> ehm... well... completely
[22:00] < zenlunatic> Oh. Not too much info on the site about the package/ports manager.
[22:01] < blindcoder> In the simplest case a ROCK "package" consists of one .desc file
[22:02] < tcr> zenlunatic: the fundamental concept is similiar, but the implementation differs
[22:03] < zenlunatic> What language is it written in?
[22:03] < tcr> Shell, that means bash
[22:04] < zenlunatic> Understood.
[22:04] < zenlunatic> .desc is a bash script?
[22:04] < blindcoder> https://svn.rocklinux-consulting.de/rock-linux/trunk/package/blindcoder/irssi/irssi.desc
[22:04] < blindcoder> Here's an example
[22:06] < zenlunatic> Looks like a .ebuild for Gentoo.
[22:07] < blindcoder> never saw one of them
[22:07]   tcr neither
[22:08] < tcr> zenlunatic, but it's likely that ebuilds are essentially the same as the .desc + .conf files
[22:11] < zenlunatic> https://gentoo.kems.net/gentoo-portage/net-irc/irssi/irssi-0.8.6-r4.ebuild
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[22:13] < blindcoder> hmm... it has also the deps within the .ebuild file, so a part of our .cache file is within there...
[22:13] < blindcoder> well, it's about the same
[22:14] < blindcoder> buah, I can hardly keep my eyes open anymore >_<
[22:14] < zenlunatic> Gentoo has something called USE variables where you can set universal compile options like USE -gtk to build stuff without GTK support (stuff that has two options, like fluxbox with gnome and not kde support). does rock have this/
[22:16] < SMP> zenlunatic: not in general. some packages offer individual config switches of this kind
[22:19] < tcr> Well
[22:21] < tcr> zenlunatic, it's right that a real infrastructure is missing for that kind of stuff, but it's possible to determine global flags to GNU configure (so you may be off with using --without-gtk and alike)
[22:22] < SMP> it can be switched off reliably by not compiling gtk in the first place ;)
[22:23] < zenlunatic> You guys could use Gentoo code.
[22:24] < SMP> fundamental misunderstanding #1 when comparing ROCK and Gentoo: ROCK is not a 'source distribution'
[22:25] < tcr> ack
[22:26] < SMP> and I should have used 'misconception' in place of 'misunderstanding'
[22:27] < tcr> zenlunatic, the thing you're mentioning is a very nifty feature but it's only a part of a bigger picture for a distribution build kit
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[23:32] < daja77> re
[23:36] < daja77> rxr: you here
[23:36] < daja77> ?
[23:42] < Freak> hi da
[23:42] < Freak> daja77
[23:42] < Freak> (no nick completion here)
[23:43] < daja77> hey Freak, what's up
[23:43] < Freak> (that sucks if you're accustomed to it :)
[23:43] < Freak> not much, watching "unbreakable"
[23:43] < Freak> one of my favourite movies
[23:43] < daja77> sounds like a coke bottle
[23:44] < Freak> heh
[23:44] < Freak> they had this slogan "unkaputtbar" for bonaqua once
[23:44] < Freak> dont you know that movie?
[23:44] < daja77> no
[23:44] < Freak> you should see it
[23:44] < daja77> *makingnote*
[23:45] < Freak> and since you're already doing so: get "high fidelity", "grosse point blank" and "signs" as well.
[23:46] < daja77> signs, no way
[23:46] < Freak> why?
[23:46] < Freak> noone ever understands that movie :)
[23:46] < daja77> well ...
[23:47] < Freak> its like with magnolia. noone understands why it rains frogs in the end.
[23:47] < daja77> hmm dunno that
[23:47] < Freak> thats why everybody keeps saying "geee this is weird!"
[23:47] < Freak> but it isnt
[23:48] < Freak> its perfectly easy :)
[23:48] < daja77> it is freaky?
[23:48] < Freak> its "sometimes something unbelieveable has to happen to clean up all the mess in one's life"
[23:49] < Freak> you may s/unbelieveable/freaky
[23:49] < daja77> like me getting mail from the woman I love
[23:50] < Freak> probably :)
-!- Irrsi  Log closed Mon Oct 06 00:00:45 2003